I can probably get fournette for looks 1.02 or 1.03. Is he worth it in a vacuum? For my team? I'm second in points but significantly behind a stacked team
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Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
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SteveMaddensShoes
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Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
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11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
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12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
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Re: Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
Yes, I'd pay that for Fournette if contending.
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
Poll added.
I was hoping everyone would say don't do it. I'm not sold on him long term, health wise, motivation wise, team wise, etc.
Ehh.
I was hoping everyone would say don't do it. I'm not sold on him long term, health wise, motivation wise, team wise, etc.
Ehh.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
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Re: Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
I'm not sold on him either, but who cares if Fournette fails long-term if he can win you a title this year?SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:26 am I was hoping everyone would say don't do it. I'm not sold on him long term, health wise, motivation wise, team wise, etc.
Kittles Pox | Championships: 2015, 2017
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
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Re: Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
i dont see you winning it all with James White as your RB2. It's a gamble but if you win the 'ship it's worth it.
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Re: Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
I guess I'm just concerned about the long haul in general. The top player in the league is not only stacked but has 3 1sts next year. So I'm just concerned that in general he runs away with the league for years. Right now he has won 19 out of the last 20 games. I don't know if the 1.02 changes that for me. Sounds like I'm just aggravated at how good his team is. Haha.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:56 amI'm not sold on him either, but who cares if Fournette fails long-term if he can win you a title this year?SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:26 am I was hoping everyone would say don't do it. I'm not sold on him long term, health wise, motivation wise, team wise, etc.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
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Re: Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
I could not pay that in superflex format. Not with other positions being questionable and next year’s class so highly regarded. Fournette would improve your chances at winning, though I don’t think enough to burn such an early 1st rounder
Re: Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
Fournette was an RB1 in his rookie year. He is an RB1 again this year - his 3rd in the league. The only year he has missed significant time was last year and even then he was basically an RB3 despite missing half the year.
To me it is best to treat every rookie class as identical until after the fact. We're seeing that the 2019 class is better than many tried to advertise - and it is quite possible the 2020 class will be lesser than hype is currently advertising.
Always remember there is basically a 50% chance that the rookie you draft with an early first has of turning into what Fournette is already - a proven top 12 talent at their position. Rookie picks have lots of value because, like gold, they are the safest currency for transactions/trading since a 1st is always a 1st whereas many veteran players, be it Fournette, Cook, Barkley, Gurley, etc are going to have their detractors due to some concern or other.
In the end only you as an owner can determine if a player is worth it to your team, both in the short & long term.
But hopefully a couple of stats will help:
47 - # of RB receptions Fournette has (good enough for 5th most)
17 - points per gamer average in PPR Fournette is averaging (good enough for 9th overall)
81% - percentage of passes Fournette has caught while having Foles & Minshew as QB
24 - number of times Fournette averages touching the ball per game
3rd - Fournette is currently 3rd in yards from scrimmage in 2019
https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?mode=Y
To me it is best to treat every rookie class as identical until after the fact. We're seeing that the 2019 class is better than many tried to advertise - and it is quite possible the 2020 class will be lesser than hype is currently advertising.
Always remember there is basically a 50% chance that the rookie you draft with an early first has of turning into what Fournette is already - a proven top 12 talent at their position. Rookie picks have lots of value because, like gold, they are the safest currency for transactions/trading since a 1st is always a 1st whereas many veteran players, be it Fournette, Cook, Barkley, Gurley, etc are going to have their detractors due to some concern or other.
In the end only you as an owner can determine if a player is worth it to your team, both in the short & long term.
But hopefully a couple of stats will help:
47 - # of RB receptions Fournette has (good enough for 5th most)
17 - points per gamer average in PPR Fournette is averaging (good enough for 9th overall)
81% - percentage of passes Fournette has caught while having Foles & Minshew as QB
24 - number of times Fournette averages touching the ball per game
3rd - Fournette is currently 3rd in yards from scrimmage in 2019
https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?mode=Y
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Is Fournette worth early 2020 1st SF
I feel your frustration. I took over a team in a dynasty league formed by two brothers. Their benches are so deep that their bench players can beat most teams on a weekly basis. I like Fournette and if he can win you a title then go for it. Next year is next year. My only knock against Fournette is his ability to stay healthy and big backs with no wiggle tend to take huge hits thus making them vulnerable. But it’s your team and your decision And he has been healthy this year.