Baker trade in SF

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Baker trade in SF

Postby Hankybro21 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:34 pm

Team 2. Im pretty sure I know the answer here but always value the feedback of this group.

Baker owner is trying to offload him. Came to me and asked for a 2020 1st for him. For context, I’m in rebuild and have solid draft capital next year. If the season ended today, I’d have picks 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 12, and 13. I don’t anticipate much, if any, change, especially with me having 1-3.

I know the answer is to hold and wait for the picks to increase in value. I’m mainly wondering if a second would be a reasonable price for Baker if I can get it done. I have Watson and Wilson and will draft one of Tua or Burrow...maybe both depending on the board. I also very likely have 1.01 or 1.02 for 2021 for Fields or Lawrence. Is baker worth a purchase here? Or just stick to the plan and build through draft?
Team 1 (10-3; 1st place; 1st in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, 26 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*1, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar|Goff|J. Allen
WR: Nuk|MT|Evans|Adams|Godwin|DJM|Anthony Miller|Mike Williams|JJAW
RB: MG III|Chubb|Guice|Royce|Mattison|Laird|Snell
TE: Hunter|OJH|Hollister
K: Zuerlein|Gay
Def: Ravens|Bills
IR: Dissly|Love|Preston

2018 Champs
2020: 1.06, 1.xx, 2.01, 2.05, 4.xx, 5.xx

Team 2 (5-8; rebuild; 7th place; 6th in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, Superflex, 28 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Team Defense *1, IDP*3

QB: Russell|Watson|Mariota|Rosen
WR: DJM|JuJu|Kirk|Sutton|Godwin|Parris|Deebo
Harmon|AB|Isabella
RB: Jacobs|Miles|DJ|Snell|Darwin
TE: Goedert|OJH|Hollister
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt|LAR
IDP: Donald|Collins Sr.|Wagner
IR: Hakeem Butler|Preston|Hock

2020 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.03, 2.04
2021 picks: 1st x2, 3rd x1

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:37 pm

Your rebuild should look really nice coming out of the draft. However, if you can get Mayfield for one of your late 1sts, I think it's worth the gamble. His value could rebound and go sky high again.
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QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby jonesmaster » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:40 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:37 pm
Your rebuild should look really nice coming out of the draft. However, if you can get Mayfield for one of your late 1sts, I think it's worth the gamble. His value could rebound and go sky high again.
Agreed. This year is a write off for many reasons, from coaching to OL, to his own struggles. Next season can mean skyrocketing value and i think paying a first for that is well worth the price.
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QB: Brady , Rivers, Brissett
WR: Moore, Juju, Evans, Woods, Watkins, Sanders, Hakeem Butler, Humphries, Cobb
RB: Zeke, Gurley, Mixon, Mike Davis, Gio, Ty Johnson, Perkins, Armstead
TE: Kelce, Reed, Jonnu, Moreau
D/ST: Bears, Colts, Panthers

10-team Full PPR Scoring: 1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1FLX, 1 SFLX, 1TE, 1D/ST, K

QB: Wilson , Mahomes , Baker, Teddy B, Stidham
RB: Coleman , White , Breida, Drake, Gio, Lewis, Davis, Ballage, Wilkins, J. Williams
WR: Evans , MT , Ridley, Harry, Boykin, Robby Anderson, Dede
TE: Kittle , Fant, Rudolph, Reed, Dissly
D/ST: Bills, Colts, Vikings

2020 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2; 2021 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby Hankybro21 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:50 pm

jonesmaster wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:40 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:37 pm
Your rebuild should look really nice coming out of the draft. However, if you can get Mayfield for one of your late 1sts, I think it's worth the gamble. His value could rebound and go sky high again.
Agreed. This year is a write off for many reasons, from coaching to OL, to his own struggles. Next season can mean skyrocketing value and i think paying a first for that is well worth the price.
Okay maybe I didn’t know the answer to this haha. Food for thought appreciate it
Team 1 (10-3; 1st place; 1st in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, 26 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*1, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar|Goff|J. Allen
WR: Nuk|MT|Evans|Adams|Godwin|DJM|Anthony Miller|Mike Williams|JJAW
RB: MG III|Chubb|Guice|Royce|Mattison|Laird|Snell
TE: Hunter|OJH|Hollister
K: Zuerlein|Gay
Def: Ravens|Bills
IR: Dissly|Love|Preston

2018 Champs
2020: 1.06, 1.xx, 2.01, 2.05, 4.xx, 5.xx

Team 2 (5-8; rebuild; 7th place; 6th in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, Superflex, 28 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Team Defense *1, IDP*3

QB: Russell|Watson|Mariota|Rosen
WR: DJM|JuJu|Kirk|Sutton|Godwin|Parris|Deebo
Harmon|AB|Isabella
RB: Jacobs|Miles|DJ|Snell|Darwin
TE: Goedert|OJH|Hollister
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt|LAR
IDP: Donald|Collins Sr.|Wagner
IR: Hakeem Butler|Preston|Hock

2020 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.03, 2.04
2021 picks: 1st x2, 3rd x1

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby jomaed » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:15 pm

Baker is worth a mid 1st sill....he was going in round 2-3 of startup drafts 2 months ago. Getting him for a late 1st is a huge win.

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby Hankybro21 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 pm

jomaed wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:15 pm
Baker is worth a mid 1st sill....he was going in round 2-3 of startup drafts 2 months ago. Getting him for a late 1st is a huge win.
Looks like it’d be one of 1.06/1.07/1.08 for baker. I tried to talk him into the worst of my 1sts but he wouldn’t agree. The pick we are discussing will very likely be within that range. Prolly 1.07, small chance at 1.06 or 1.08. Worth it?
Team 1 (10-3; 1st place; 1st in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, 26 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*1, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar|Goff|J. Allen
WR: Nuk|MT|Evans|Adams|Godwin|DJM|Anthony Miller|Mike Williams|JJAW
RB: MG III|Chubb|Guice|Royce|Mattison|Laird|Snell
TE: Hunter|OJH|Hollister
K: Zuerlein|Gay
Def: Ravens|Bills
IR: Dissly|Love|Preston

2018 Champs
2020: 1.06, 1.xx, 2.01, 2.05, 4.xx, 5.xx

Team 2 (5-8; rebuild; 7th place; 6th in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, Superflex, 28 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Team Defense *1, IDP*3

QB: Russell|Watson|Mariota|Rosen
WR: DJM|JuJu|Kirk|Sutton|Godwin|Parris|Deebo
Harmon|AB|Isabella
RB: Jacobs|Miles|DJ|Snell|Darwin
TE: Goedert|OJH|Hollister
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt|LAR
IDP: Donald|Collins Sr.|Wagner
IR: Hakeem Butler|Preston|Hock

2020 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.03, 2.04
2021 picks: 1st x2, 3rd x1

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby Samhain34 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:51 pm

Yes. I have Baker in SF and would laugh in the face of anybody offering me the 1.07 for him. Recency bias is real and this how you pick up a reliable QB for years to come by dumping a mid-first crapshoot pick.
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QB: C. Wentz, M. Ryan, B. Mayfield, N. Foles
RB: M. Gordon, T. Cohen, M. Walton, P. Barber, D. Thompson, I. Smith
WR: M. Thomas, K. Allen, C. Sutton, D. Slayton, A. Isabella, D. Westbrook, David Moore, A. Wilson, Auden Tate, J, Kumerow, G. Jennings
TE: N Fant, H. Henry, T. Higbee
IR: Preston Williams, C. Coleman
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2020: 1,2
2021: 1,2,3

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby Hankybro21 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:17 pm

Samhain34 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:51 pm
Yes. I have Baker in SF and would laugh in the face of anybody offering me the 1.07 for him. Recency bias is real and this how you pick up a reliable QB for years to come by dumping a mid-first crapshoot pick.
Okay fair enough. I’ve spent the entire season piling up 2020 1sts with this team so they’re tough to part with. But I think you’re right here.

If I make this trade and stick to my 1st round draft board then I’ll most likely end up with jeudy and lamb at WR, swift and Taylor at RB, and Tua/Burrow and Baker at QB.
Team 1 (10-3; 1st place; 1st in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, 26 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*1, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar|Goff|J. Allen
WR: Nuk|MT|Evans|Adams|Godwin|DJM|Anthony Miller|Mike Williams|JJAW
RB: MG III|Chubb|Guice|Royce|Mattison|Laird|Snell
TE: Hunter|OJH|Hollister
K: Zuerlein|Gay
Def: Ravens|Bills
IR: Dissly|Love|Preston

2018 Champs
2020: 1.06, 1.xx, 2.01, 2.05, 4.xx, 5.xx

Team 2 (5-8; rebuild; 7th place; 6th in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, Superflex, 28 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Team Defense *1, IDP*3

QB: Russell|Watson|Mariota|Rosen
WR: DJM|JuJu|Kirk|Sutton|Godwin|Parris|Deebo
Harmon|AB|Isabella
RB: Jacobs|Miles|DJ|Snell|Darwin
TE: Goedert|OJH|Hollister
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt|LAR
IDP: Donald|Collins Sr.|Wagner
IR: Hakeem Butler|Preston|Hock

2020 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.03, 2.04
2021 picks: 1st x2, 3rd x1

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby Goddard » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:54 am

Baker is worth a mid 1st in a SF, but I'm not sure I'd pay it. You already have Russell and Watson and should be drafting at least one of the top QBs coming out. Unless you can get Baker and flip him for something else, I'd rather hold the pick...I'm also not a big Baker guy, so take all that with a grain of salt.

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby Hankybro21 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:25 pm

Goddard wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:54 am
Baker is worth a mid 1st in a SF, but I'm not sure I'd pay it. You already have Russell and Watson and should be drafting at least one of the top QBs coming out. Unless you can get Baker and flip him for something else, I'd rather hold the pick...I'm also not a big Baker guy, so take all that with a grain of salt.
Appreciate the input. I'm still debating it. I think I've made peace with the fact that the value would certainly be there, it's more of an equation of team need at this point since I'll grab Tua or Burrow for sure.
Team 1 (10-3; 1st place; 1st in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, 26 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*1, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar|Goff|J. Allen
WR: Nuk|MT|Evans|Adams|Godwin|DJM|Anthony Miller|Mike Williams|JJAW
RB: MG III|Chubb|Guice|Royce|Mattison|Laird|Snell
TE: Hunter|OJH|Hollister
K: Zuerlein|Gay
Def: Ravens|Bills
IR: Dissly|Love|Preston

2018 Champs
2020: 1.06, 1.xx, 2.01, 2.05, 4.xx, 5.xx

Team 2 (5-8; rebuild; 7th place; 6th in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, Superflex, 28 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Team Defense *1, IDP*3

QB: Russell|Watson|Mariota|Rosen
WR: DJM|JuJu|Kirk|Sutton|Godwin|Parris|Deebo
Harmon|AB|Isabella
RB: Jacobs|Miles|DJ|Snell|Darwin
TE: Goedert|OJH|Hollister
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt|LAR
IDP: Donald|Collins Sr.|Wagner
IR: Hakeem Butler|Preston|Hock

2020 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.03, 2.04
2021 picks: 1st x2, 3rd x1

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby doombringer » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:25 pm

I may be in the minority but I would instantly decline anything outside a 1.3 for Baker and I don't like or own the guy.

Young? Check. Starter? Check. Potential for value increase? Check.

It makes no sense to move on from him for some random late first. If you can get that done I curse you for not already doing it.
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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby Dibbles » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:34 pm

Easily Baker here for any mid-to-late 1st in SF.

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Re: Baker trade in SF

Postby Edgy68 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:18 am

I'd counter for the two late 1sts, due to how many rookies you could pick and choose with what looks like 6 of the first 7 selections. If that isn't acceptable to your trade partner, I agree the value is there for that 1.07ish pick because Baker will have trade value.
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RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, M. Ingram, P. Lindsay, G. Bernard, J. Hill, A. Matt., R. Anderson
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DB J. Poyer, J. Johnson, K. Byard, J. Simmons
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