Do you sell Julio to a contender

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Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:25 am

Team 3 in sig (MN)

Give: Julio+2020 late 3rd+2021 3rd
Get: Sutton+2020 late 1st+2021 1st

My primary concern is that both teams are contenders this year. Do I add risk this year for future gain?
RZ | 12tm | 0.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1WR/TE | 1FLEX | 2011
QB: Ryan, K.Allen, Foles
RB: Kamara, Fournette, Ingram, Mack, Laird, Harris
WR: MT, Godwin, Keenan, Lockett, Chark, Deebo
TE: Andrews, Njoku, Higbee, Oliver
'20: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd+


BL | 14tm | PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2017
QB: Dak, Baker
RB: Chubb, Conner, Murray, Snell, RoJo, Brown, J.Hill, Armstead
WR: MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Allison, Cobb, Boykin, Patrick
TE: Kelce, Gesicki, Warring
DL: Donald, Clowney
LB: J.Schobert, J.Smith
DB: Collins, Walker
'20: 1st, 2nd+


MN | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2019
QB: Carr, Lock
RB: CMC, Ingram, Singletary, Barber, Bo, J.Williams(IND), B.Hill, J.Hill, Armstead
WR: Sutton, Chark, Boyd, Thielen, R.Anderson, Harmon, Cole, Latimer, Cain
TE: Engram, Hooper, Warring
'20: 1st, 1st, 2nd+

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Slackalacker » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:30 am

I would definitely prefer the Sutton side, but selling to another contender would make me hesitate.
8-4|DYNASTY TEAM 1 - 10 team 1ppr 30 man roster | 2017 League Champ
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Brady - Carr
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Guice - Davis - Wilkins - Bonbon - JoWill - Bo - Ito(IR)
WR: Nuk - Adams - TY - DJ - Hollywood - Campbell - Pascal - JJAW - Miller - Keke - Gage
TE: Engram - Hock - Griffin - Stern

3-9|DYNASTY TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Olsen - Lacosse - Jonnu

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Dibbles » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:31 am

If you are an absolute contender, Julio >> Sutton rest of season - so I think you need to hold Julio. If you don't feel you have a legit shot to win it all, I'd make this trade as the value is on the Sutton side IMO.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:39 am

I would hold Jones as a contender as well. He should still put up WR1 numbers the rest of the year.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby abloom » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:42 am

With that team, give me sutton and the firsts.

Can't really gauge how you will do to finish up this year. but you need some more fire power on that team, and those 1sts will give you just that.
Team #1 (9-4) rank: 2/12
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Scarbrough, Peterson, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel, Couttee
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,4,4,5,5,7
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Team #2 (9-4) rank: 3/12
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, AP, J Hill, B Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (10-3) rank 1/10
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, Parker
TE: Henry, Hooper
K: Lutz
DST: BAL

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby mmass » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:52 am

if you think you can win the ship keep Jones... if you are a borderline team then I take Sutton and started getting ammo for the future.
Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 1 Yr 3
Newton Watson Darnold Allen Grier
Gurley Zeke Henry Barber Brown
Nuk Allen Boyd Ridley Hollywood MVS Crowder Hamilton Pettis Kee,Johnson
Andrews Njoku Witten Knox Jarwin Brate

Deep 2 Yr 4
Brady Stafford Brissett Dalton Lock
CMC DJ Mixon Hyde Ja.Williams Cohen
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Kupp Gallup D.Jackson K.Johnson D.Hamiltion M.Boykin AB
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly Watson

Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 6
Wentz Rothlisberger Dak Taylor Brisset
Zeke Cook Mixon Hyde Breida Edmonds T.Johnson Gio
M.Thomas Edelman Mclurin J.Landry Kirk
Hooper Goedart

SF2 - Yr 3
Watson Rosen Foles Brissett Finley
Barkley Gordon Ja.Williams R.Anderson
OBJ Hopkins Evans Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Howard Smith Warring

SF3 - Yr1
Goff Cousins Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines
Hopkins Boyd Lockett Jeffery Shepard Allison T.Williams Parker Boykins Harmon
Waller Njuku

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Rustycage » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:17 pm

Sutton side for me.
Team 1: 12 Team Dynasty IDP
QB - Wentz, Trubisky
RB - A. Jones, R. Freeman, Guice
WR - Golladay, Ridley, Sutton, Hardman, C. Davis
TE - Fant, Doyle, Fells, Smith Jr
DL: Garret, Davenport, Linval, Reed
LB: Evans, White, D. Campbell, Hitchens, McKinney, Watt, Barron, Gerry
DB: Butler, King, Kirkpatrick, Maye, Peterson
2020: 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3

Team 2: 12 Team Dynasty SF
QB: Baker, Darnold, Mullins, Haskins, Lock
RB: Jacobs, T. Coleman, M. Breida, D. Williams, Armstead, Henderson
WR: Adams, OBJ, Julio, JuJu, ARob, Kirk, D. Johnson, Pascal, A. Tate
TE: D. Waller, Smith Jr., H. Hurst, I. Thomas
2020: 1,1,2,2,4,5,6,7

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby IR1 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:25 pm

Sutton side for me, should help a lot in the coming years
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
Wilson, Cousins, Winston, Luck/ Kamara, Chubb, Mixon, Guice/Hopkins, Evans, Allen, CDavis, Harry, Godwin, JJAW/ Kelce, Howard, Fant/ PK
Buckner, Simmons, Hurst/JBosa, Hunter, Dunlap, Barnett, Ingram / D Jones Warner, Mack, E Kendricks, DLeonard, REvans, TSmith/Moore, Peters, Jenkins/ Byard, HSmith, Amos IR Williams, Campbell
12 team SF QB/RB/WR/TE/ 3flex/1SF
Wentz, Cousins, Lock, Bridgewater, Minshew/ KJohnson, Michel, Sanders, Hill, Walton/ Allen, Lockett, AJ Brown, JJAW, Meyers, DJax, AMiller, Sheppard, MJones, Kirk, Treadwell, KCole/ Ertz, Fant, Hurst

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Huddle3233 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:43 pm

That is a great return/haul for Julio. Give me the Sutton side all day.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:58 pm

Sutton all day and it isn't even close for me. Unless you have some funky scoring, the difference between the two players this season in PPR is 2.1 ppg. On top of that you're getting a player that is 6.5 years younger.
14 team dynasty, 25 man roster, keep 14, .5 PPR
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, D/ST, K, DL, LB, DE
QB: Ryan, Mayfield
RB: Barkley, Kerryon Johnson, Gus Edwards, Pollard, Brian Hill
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Juju, Cooks, Corey Davis, Dede Westbrook, Fitz
TE: Njoku, Jonnu
K: Slye
D/ST: Titans, Eagles
DL: Heyward
LB: Littleton
DB: Bell

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:02 pm

i dont see how this is a question. sutton is currently scoring as a high end wr2 and julio a mid wr1, the age gap is massive and those are first round picks being offered.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby perkinsrooster » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:15 pm

Take the value, Sutton side.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:26 pm

Thanks all, I sold Julio.

I'll be sitting 3rd (7-3), on the heels of 1st/2nd (8-2), with the most points scored and second most possible points. I like my players' matchups during the playoffs, and feel I can still contend even after the trade. I felt the long term gain was worth more than the short term risk.
RZ | 12tm | 0.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1WR/TE | 1FLEX | 2011
QB: Ryan, K.Allen, Foles
RB: Kamara, Fournette, Ingram, Mack, Laird, Harris
WR: MT, Godwin, Keenan, Lockett, Chark, Deebo
TE: Andrews, Njoku, Higbee, Oliver
'20: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd+


BL | 14tm | PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2017
QB: Dak, Baker
RB: Chubb, Conner, Murray, Snell, RoJo, Brown, J.Hill, Armstead
WR: MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Allison, Cobb, Boykin, Patrick
TE: Kelce, Gesicki, Warring
DL: Donald, Clowney
LB: J.Schobert, J.Smith
DB: Collins, Walker
'20: 1st, 2nd+


MN | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2019
QB: Carr, Lock
RB: CMC, Ingram, Singletary, Barber, Bo, J.Williams(IND), B.Hill, J.Hill, Armstead
WR: Sutton, Chark, Boyd, Thielen, R.Anderson, Harmon, Cole, Latimer, Cain
TE: Engram, Hooper, Warring
'20: 1st, 1st, 2nd+

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby ManuManu » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:16 pm

I haven’t been offered anything near that for Julio. I had one GM tell me he wouldn’t pay more than a 2. Two other GMs offered single firsts.
Team 1, 10-team 0.5-PPR
QB (1): Wentz, Mayfield
RB (2-3): David Johnson, K. Johnson, D. Williams, Carson, Coleman, Duke Johnson, McCoy, Breida, McKinnon, Edmonds
WR (3-4): Julio, Hill, Diggs, Lockett, R Anderson, Fuller, MVS, P. Williams, Hurd
TE (1-2): Ertz, Njoku

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:53 pm

ManuManu wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:16 pm
I haven’t been offered anything near that for Julio. I had one GM tell me he wouldn’t pay more than a 2. Two other GMs offered single firsts.
To be fair, the end result wasn't close to the initial discussions. It started with discussions around Chark, transitioned to Julio, and had to be built up from there.

I'm lucky to be in a few leagues with many owners who like to trade and are open to candid trade discussions.
RZ | 12tm | 0.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1WR/TE | 1FLEX | 2011
QB: Ryan, K.Allen, Foles
RB: Kamara, Fournette, Ingram, Mack, Laird, Harris
WR: MT, Godwin, Keenan, Lockett, Chark, Deebo
TE: Andrews, Njoku, Higbee, Oliver
'20: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd+


BL | 14tm | PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2017
QB: Dak, Baker
RB: Chubb, Conner, Murray, Snell, RoJo, Brown, J.Hill, Armstead
WR: MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Allison, Cobb, Boykin, Patrick
TE: Kelce, Gesicki, Warring
DL: Donald, Clowney
LB: J.Schobert, J.Smith
DB: Collins, Walker
'20: 1st, 2nd+


MN | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2019
QB: Carr, Lock
RB: CMC, Ingram, Singletary, Barber, Bo, J.Williams(IND), B.Hill, J.Hill, Armstead
WR: Sutton, Chark, Boyd, Thielen, R.Anderson, Harmon, Cole, Latimer, Cain
TE: Engram, Hooper, Warring
'20: 1st, 1st, 2nd+


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