Too much to pay for OBJ?

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Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby TheGoat21 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:07 pm

I’m trying to add another player to my lineup for team one of my sig. I’ve won the first three years of our league and want to win again but another team is now loaded. His starters are CMC, Kamara, Godwin, Evans, Davante and Hooper.

OBJ owner wants Kerryon, and two 2020 firsts. One will be top 4 lotto and one will be 5 or 6. Is this too much to pay for OBJ? I can’t get another stud really and my team is good right now, but I’m not the favorite.

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12 Team Superflex .5ppr / .8ppr for TE
Start: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2 Flex, SFlex

QB: Dak, Fields, Dobbs, Bagent
RB: JT, Bijan, Gibbs, Dobbins, Jackson, Vaughn
WR: Jefferson, Chase, Diontae, JSN, QJ, Flowers, Elijah, Downs, Nacua, Boutte, Phillips, Ross, Palmer, Tolbert
TE: Pitts, Fant, Ferguson, Likely, Turner, Albert O

2x 2025 1st

10 team .5ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE, 2 Flex

QB: Fields, Dak
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, Akers, Zeke
WR: JJeff, CD, JSN, Downs, Elijah, Mooney, Meyers, Doubs, Reed
TE: Kittle, Njoku, Musgrave, Albert O, Kmet

2024 1st, 2x 2025 1st

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby JamboMac » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:12 pm

I wouldn't pay that for OBJ. At the minute it looks like you'd be paying for past production. I like him still, but an early and mid 1st is too much for me. Kerryon will be back next year, so if you're not winning this year, why give up so much?
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, Deebo, Olave, JSN, Meyers, Metchie
TE - Pitts, Engram, Otton, Mayer, Woods, Fant

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby TheGoat21 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:14 pm

Red9Devil wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:12 pm I wouldn't pay that for OBJ. At the minute it looks like you'd be paying for past production. I like him still, but an early and mid 1st is too much for me. Kerryon will be back next year, so if you're not winning this year, why give up so much?
The hope would be adding a piece to win. If I had OBJ I would trot out Saquon, Chubb, Nuk, Julio, OBJ, ARob and Kittle. I think that team could compete.

If I didn’t have OBJ I would be starting John Brown, Guice or Hunt in my second flex.
12 Team Superflex .5ppr / .8ppr for TE
Start: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2 Flex, SFlex

QB: Dak, Fields, Dobbs, Bagent
RB: JT, Bijan, Gibbs, Dobbins, Jackson, Vaughn
WR: Jefferson, Chase, Diontae, JSN, QJ, Flowers, Elijah, Downs, Nacua, Boutte, Phillips, Ross, Palmer, Tolbert
TE: Pitts, Fant, Ferguson, Likely, Turner, Albert O

2x 2025 1st

10 team .5ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE, 2 Flex

QB: Fields, Dak
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, Akers, Zeke
WR: JJeff, CD, JSN, Downs, Elijah, Mooney, Meyers, Doubs, Reed
TE: Kittle, Njoku, Musgrave, Albert O, Kmet

2024 1st, 2x 2025 1st

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby JamboMac » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:21 pm

John Brown has been better than OBJ all year, and it doesn't look to improve this season for the Browns. They aren't trying to feed him the ball, and with Hunt coming back, you never know what'll happen with the target share, which I think it's safe to say, he will get 5/6 looks a game. Kitchens loves the guy.

Personally I'd rather keep the picks. You would have the ability to get two of either Shenault, Ruggs, Lamb, Ettiene, Dobbins...depending on landing spots, these could all be great players, potentially. But it does entirely depend on whether you believe you can win or not this year with OBJ. I don't think he helps anyone win this year, similar to JuJu.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, Deebo, Olave, JSN, Meyers, Metchie
TE - Pitts, Engram, Otton, Mayer, Woods, Fant

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:49 pm

Too much for me, but I'm not high on Beckham.

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:17 am

If OBJ was firing on all cylinders that would be a great deal but he's a buy-low target for a reason - his situation looks to be bad for possibly the remainder of 2019.

I bet you can get Keenan Allen for just 1 of the Firsts plus KJ
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby mmass » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:03 am

try someone like edelman if he isn't on a competing team.... much cheaper with better production.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:51 am

If you are looking to compete, go after a different WR than OBJ. The Browns look a mess right now. Baker hasn't thrown for more than 1 TD in a single game this year..... Yikes!
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby elvisn » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:57 am

I think for how he's been performing the price is just too high. He just doesn't look right.

Over his last 24 games he's totaled:
141 Receptions on 232 Targets for 2,029 Yards and 10 TDs.

Per game average is:
5.8 Receptions on 9.6 Targets for 84.5 Yards and 0.4 TDs.

16 game pace is decent:
94 Receptions on 154 Targets for 1352 Yards and 6.6 TDs.

At the moment I'd be happy with the deal in dropping 1 of those pieces from it.
Team 1
2019 Champions
12 Team - 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex(WRT). Bench 11, IR 2.

QB: Drew Brees, Minshew, Hurts.
RB: Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Ronald Jones, AJ Dillon, Justin Jackson, Bryce Love, Latavius Murray.
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Julian Edelman, Breshad Perriman, Bryan Edwards.
TE: Evan Engram, Dallas Goedert, Adam Trautman.

Picks:
2021: 1st, 3rd.
2022: 1st, 3rd.
2023: 1st ,2nd, 3rd.

Team 2
10 Team - PPR, 4pts Pass TD, 6pts Rec/Rush TD, Return scoring yards/TDs.
Start: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 4Flex

QB: LJax, Goff, Minshew, Hurts, Rosen.
RB: Chubb, Cook, Dobbins, Hunt, Michel, DFreeman, J Jackson, Boone, J Hill, Love, Scott.
WR: DK, JuJu, Diontae J, Cooks, Crowder, Campbell, Edwards, A Miller, Sims, AB, Laviska, S Miller.
TE: Higbee, OJ Howard, Cook, Gesicki.

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:07 am

counter and take out the earlier first and include a 2nd and id get behind it. mid/late 1 a 2 and kj
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby Jcedwards » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:14 am

I really think after this week that OBJ picks it up. The Browns are still terrible, but they will feed OBJ, and the schedule lightens up after BUF. With the way that OBJ has played though, that package is too much right now. As states above, maybe take out 1 1st and substitute for a 2nd. Or see if you can get another WR who is producing better for cheaper (like an Edelman)
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR

2019 and 2020 Champion

QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker

Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo

Picks- 2023: 1.02, 1.11, 2.10, 2.11, 3.11, 4.10, 4.11

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby elvisn » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:18 am

I was interested in trading for him only 2-3 weeks ago but the price point was starting at 4 1sts and possibly looking for a piece on top.
Team 1
2019 Champions
12 Team - 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex(WRT). Bench 11, IR 2.

QB: Drew Brees, Minshew, Hurts.
RB: Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Ronald Jones, AJ Dillon, Justin Jackson, Bryce Love, Latavius Murray.
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Julian Edelman, Breshad Perriman, Bryan Edwards.
TE: Evan Engram, Dallas Goedert, Adam Trautman.

Picks:
2021: 1st, 3rd.
2022: 1st, 3rd.
2023: 1st ,2nd, 3rd.

Team 2
10 Team - PPR, 4pts Pass TD, 6pts Rec/Rush TD, Return scoring yards/TDs.
Start: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 4Flex

QB: LJax, Goff, Minshew, Hurts, Rosen.
RB: Chubb, Cook, Dobbins, Hunt, Michel, DFreeman, J Jackson, Boone, J Hill, Love, Scott.
WR: DK, JuJu, Diontae J, Cooks, Crowder, Campbell, Edwards, A Miller, Sims, AB, Laviska, S Miller.
TE: Higbee, OJ Howard, Cook, Gesicki.


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