Too much to pay for OBJ?

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Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby TheGoat21 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:07 pm

I’m trying to add another player to my lineup for team one of my sig. I’ve won the first three years of our league and want to win again but another team is now loaded. His starters are CMC, Kamara, Godwin, Evans, Davante and Hooper.

OBJ owner wants Kerryon, and two 2020 firsts. One will be top 4 lotto and one will be 5 or 6. Is this too much to pay for OBJ? I can’t get another stud really and my team is good right now, but I’m not the favorite.

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10 team .5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE, 2 Flex
1 IR Spot

QB: Brady, Mayfield, Dak
RB: Saquon, Chubb, Carson, Guice, Hunt
WR: Nuk, Julio, A Rob, C. Davis, Terry McLaurin, Callaway, MVS, John Brown, Preston Williams
TE: Kittle, Gesicki
K: Tucker
D/ST: Patriots

12 Team Superflex .5ppr / .8ppr for TE
Start: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, Flex, SFlex
QB: Lamar, Wentz, Minshew
RB: Chubb, Kamara, Guice
WR: Davante, OBJ, ARob, Diggs, Terry McLaurin, Callaway, Higgins, Trent Taylor, Albert Wilson, Doctson
TE: Kittle, Gesicki, Jarwin, Boyle
Taxi: Greg Dortch, Bryce Love, Riley Ridley, Scotty Miller

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby Red9Devil » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:12 pm

I wouldn't pay that for OBJ. At the minute it looks like you'd be paying for past production. I like him still, but an early and mid 1st is too much for me. Kerryon will be back next year, so if you're not winning this year, why give up so much?
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1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE

QB-Wentz, Foles, Minshew, Finley
RB-R.Freeman, D.Freeman, C.Carson, D.Henry, RoJo
WR-Hill, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, W.Fuller, D.Hamilton, 'Hollywood' Brown, D.K.Metcalf, McLaurin, Renfrow
TE-Ebron, Olsen, Moreau

12 team - Dynasty

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 DEF

QB-Winston, Stafford
RB-Guice, Gurley, Carson, Singletary, RoJo, Scarborough
WR-Boyd, C.Davis, Gallup, Slayton, McLaurin, Tate, Hurd
TE-Cook, H.Henry, Dissly

12 team - Dynasty, SF, TE pre

QB - Goff, Garoppolo
RB - Zeke, CMC, Ingram, Howard
WR - Hopkins, Allen, DJ Moore, A.Miller, Beasley, Z.Jones, Quinn
TE - Ebron, Hollister, Reed

12 team Dynasty SF, PPR, 1.75 TE pre

QB - Goff, Brissett, Finley
RB - Chubb, Carson, Singletary, R.Freeman
WR - Boyd, JuJu, Chark, Ross, G.Tate, Hurd, Renfrow, Slayton, A.Tate
TE - Engram, Dissly, Higbee, Brate

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby TheGoat21 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:14 pm

Red9Devil wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:12 pm
I wouldn't pay that for OBJ. At the minute it looks like you'd be paying for past production. I like him still, but an early and mid 1st is too much for me. Kerryon will be back next year, so if you're not winning this year, why give up so much?
The hope would be adding a piece to win. If I had OBJ I would trot out Saquon, Chubb, Nuk, Julio, OBJ, ARob and Kittle. I think that team could compete.

If I didn’t have OBJ I would be starting John Brown, Guice or Hunt in my second flex.
10 team .5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE, 2 Flex
1 IR Spot

QB: Brady, Mayfield, Dak
RB: Saquon, Chubb, Carson, Guice, Hunt
WR: Nuk, Julio, A Rob, C. Davis, Terry McLaurin, Callaway, MVS, John Brown, Preston Williams
TE: Kittle, Gesicki
K: Tucker
D/ST: Patriots

12 Team Superflex .5ppr / .8ppr for TE
Start: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, Flex, SFlex
QB: Lamar, Wentz, Minshew
RB: Chubb, Kamara, Guice
WR: Davante, OBJ, ARob, Diggs, Terry McLaurin, Callaway, Higgins, Trent Taylor, Albert Wilson, Doctson
TE: Kittle, Gesicki, Jarwin, Boyle
Taxi: Greg Dortch, Bryce Love, Riley Ridley, Scotty Miller

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby Red9Devil » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:21 pm

John Brown has been better than OBJ all year, and it doesn't look to improve this season for the Browns. They aren't trying to feed him the ball, and with Hunt coming back, you never know what'll happen with the target share, which I think it's safe to say, he will get 5/6 looks a game. Kitchens loves the guy.

Personally I'd rather keep the picks. You would have the ability to get two of either Shenault, Ruggs, Lamb, Ettiene, Dobbins...depending on landing spots, these could all be great players, potentially. But it does entirely depend on whether you believe you can win or not this year with OBJ. I don't think he helps anyone win this year, similar to JuJu.
12 team - Dynasty

1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE

QB-Wentz, Foles, Minshew, Finley
RB-R.Freeman, D.Freeman, C.Carson, D.Henry, RoJo
WR-Hill, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, W.Fuller, D.Hamilton, 'Hollywood' Brown, D.K.Metcalf, McLaurin, Renfrow
TE-Ebron, Olsen, Moreau

12 team - Dynasty

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 DEF

QB-Winston, Stafford
RB-Guice, Gurley, Carson, Singletary, RoJo, Scarborough
WR-Boyd, C.Davis, Gallup, Slayton, McLaurin, Tate, Hurd
TE-Cook, H.Henry, Dissly

12 team - Dynasty, SF, TE pre

QB - Goff, Garoppolo
RB - Zeke, CMC, Ingram, Howard
WR - Hopkins, Allen, DJ Moore, A.Miller, Beasley, Z.Jones, Quinn
TE - Ebron, Hollister, Reed

12 team Dynasty SF, PPR, 1.75 TE pre

QB - Goff, Brissett, Finley
RB - Chubb, Carson, Singletary, R.Freeman
WR - Boyd, JuJu, Chark, Ross, G.Tate, Hurd, Renfrow, Slayton, A.Tate
TE - Engram, Dissly, Higbee, Brate

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:49 pm

Too much for me, but I'm not high on Beckham.
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QB: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Alexander Mattison, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:17 am

If OBJ was firing on all cylinders that would be a great deal but he's a buy-low target for a reason - his situation looks to be bad for possibly the remainder of 2019.

I bet you can get Keenan Allen for just 1 of the Firsts plus KJ
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Haskins, Dalton, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, D Washington, M Davis, Laird, Scarlett, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, Wims, Dez, Hardy
KITTLE, Waller, Herndon, Sternberger, J Graham, Eifert
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DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, R Anderson, A Tate, Coutee
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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby mmass » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:03 am

try someone like edelman if he isn't on a competing team.... much cheaper with better production.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr1
Goff Cousins Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines
Hopkins Boyd Lockett Jeffery Shepard Allison T.Williams Parker Boykins Harmon
Waller Njuku
Pick 1.11


SF2 - Yr 6 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Rothlisberger Dak Taylor Brisset
Zeke Cook Mixon Hyde Breida Edmonds Gio
M.Thomas Edelman Mclurin J.Landry Kirk
Hooper Goedart


SF3 - Yr 3
Watson Foles Menshew Brissett
Barkley Gordon Ja.Williams
OBJ Hopkins Evans Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Howard Smith Warring
Pick 1.03


SF4 - Orphan Year 1
Dak Jones Brisset Taylor Keenum
Singletary Edmonds
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Harry Washington D.Jax Boykins Hamilton Harmon K.Johnson Perriman Pettis Hurd
Andrews Goedart
Picks 1.02 1.03 1.05 1.10 2.02 2.03 3.01 3.02


Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 4
Brady Stafford Brissett Dalton Lock
CMC DJ Mixon Hyde Ja.Williams Cohen
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Kupp Gallup D.Jackson K.Johnson D.Hamiltion M.Boykin AB
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:51 am

If you are looking to compete, go after a different WR than OBJ. The Browns look a mess right now. Baker hasn't thrown for more than 1 TD in a single game this year..... Yikes!
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2018 - Champions!
2019 - Champions!!
35-40 man rosters - $200 budget
Starting Positions:
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 TE
1 WR/TE
1 K
9 IDP positions
2 DL
2 LB
2 DB
3 DL/LB/DB

Current Roster:
QB - Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Chris Carson, Sony Michel, Derrius Guice, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR - DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Robert Woods, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Parris Campbell, Anthony Miller, John Ross
TE - George Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Mike Gesicki, Dawson Knox
K - Matt Gay, Mike Badgley
DL - Joey Bosa, DeForest Buckner, Cameron Heyward, Robert Quinn
LB - Darius Leonard, Lavonte David, Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Matt Milano, Telvin Smith
DB - Shawn Williams, Logan Ryan, Kevin Byard, Kevin King
IR - Will Dissly, John Johnson III, Myles Jack

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby elvisn » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:57 am

I think for how he's been performing the price is just too high. He just doesn't look right.

Over his last 24 games he's totaled:
141 Receptions on 232 Targets for 2,029 Yards and 10 TDs.

Per game average is:
5.8 Receptions on 9.6 Targets for 84.5 Yards and 0.4 TDs.

16 game pace is decent:
94 Receptions on 154 Targets for 1352 Yards and 6.6 TDs.

At the moment I'd be happy with the deal in dropping 1 of those pieces from it.
Team 1
2019 Champions
12 Team - 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex(WRT). Bench 11, IR 2.

QB: Drew Brees, Jimmy Garoppolo, Minshew.
RB: Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Melvin Gordon, David Johnson, Derrius Guice, Justin Jackson, Chase Edmonds.
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Julian Edelman, DK Metcalf, Brandin Cooks, Marvin Jones, Sterling Shepard, Breshad Perriman, Jalen Hurd, Josh Gordon.
TE: Hunter Henry, Dallas Goedert, Ian Thomas.

Picks:
2020: 2nd, 3rd.
2021: 1st, 3rd.
2022: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

Team 2
10 Team - PPR, 4pts Pass TD, 6pts Rec/Rush TD, Return scoring yards/TDs.
Start: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Fl(WRT), 1 DST, 1 K. Bench 18, IR 4.

QB: Rodgers, Jackson, Darnold, Rosen.
RB: Michel, D Freeman, Drake, Pollard, AP, J Hill, R Freeman, McKinnon, Love, R Anderson, J Williams.
WR: Adams, Cooper, Kirk, Fitz, Campbell, DK, Crowder, Zay, Goodwin, Richardson.
TE: Cook, OJ Howard, Dissly, Gesicki.
DST: Patriots.
K: Zuerlein, Fairbairn.

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:07 am

counter and take out the earlier first and include a 2nd and id get behind it. mid/late 1 a 2 and kj
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


team 3
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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby Jcedwards » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:14 am

I really think after this week that OBJ picks it up. The Browns are still terrible, but they will feed OBJ, and the schedule lightens up after BUF. With the way that OBJ has played though, that package is too much right now. As states above, maybe take out 1 1st and substitute for a 2nd. Or see if you can get another WR who is producing better for cheaper (like an Edelman)
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR

QB- Mahomes / Winston
RB- Kamara / Barkley / Mixon / Aaron Jones / Bernard / Justice Hill / Chris Thompson / Collins
WR- M Thomas / OBJ / Cooper / Lockett/ Kirk / Fitzgerald / Perriman
TE- Ertz / Goedert / Njoku
D/ST- Bears / Pats
K- Butker

IR- Herndon

Taxi- Minshew / Pollard / Sutton / Diontae Johnson / Boykin / Dawson Knox

Picks- 2020: 1st, 3rd, 3rd
2021: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd

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Re: Too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby elvisn » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:18 am

I was interested in trading for him only 2-3 weeks ago but the price point was starting at 4 1sts and possibly looking for a piece on top.
Team 1
2019 Champions
12 Team - 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex(WRT). Bench 11, IR 2.

QB: Drew Brees, Jimmy Garoppolo, Minshew.
RB: Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Melvin Gordon, David Johnson, Derrius Guice, Justin Jackson, Chase Edmonds.
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Julian Edelman, DK Metcalf, Brandin Cooks, Marvin Jones, Sterling Shepard, Breshad Perriman, Jalen Hurd, Josh Gordon.
TE: Hunter Henry, Dallas Goedert, Ian Thomas.

Picks:
2020: 2nd, 3rd.
2021: 1st, 3rd.
2022: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

Team 2
10 Team - PPR, 4pts Pass TD, 6pts Rec/Rush TD, Return scoring yards/TDs.
Start: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Fl(WRT), 1 DST, 1 K. Bench 18, IR 4.

QB: Rodgers, Jackson, Darnold, Rosen.
RB: Michel, D Freeman, Drake, Pollard, AP, J Hill, R Freeman, McKinnon, Love, R Anderson, J Williams.
WR: Adams, Cooper, Kirk, Fitz, Campbell, DK, Crowder, Zay, Goodwin, Richardson.
TE: Cook, OJ Howard, Dissly, Gesicki.
DST: Patriots.
K: Zuerlein, Fairbairn.


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