Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

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How’d I do?

You overpaid
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You paid appropriately/got a good deal
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Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby Blackstar110 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:46 pm

I was gonna be more of a seller/holder at the deadline by design, but when I heard rumblings Nuk was getting shopped with a couple hours before the deadline, I banged a U-ey and went after him.

I gave:
Hardman
Singletary
Harry
Two late 2020 1sts
2020 3rd
2021 3rd

I got:
Hopkins

The hot take machine has been buzzing in my league all day — it’s the biggest trade that’s ever gone down by far, and responses have ranged from how I got absolutely taken to the cleaners to how they can’t believe I got Hopkins without sending an established player. We’re still only a couple years into dynasty... how’d I do? It came together quickly and was a lot to give, but I don’t think I’d have taken less if I were the Nuk owner, who was totally bereft of talent outside of him.

(You can mostly disregard the contract info in my sig for this purpose — I get one extension per year and will be extending the most key guys as we go. Salaries will be a factor, but I’m confident I can afford to keep the band together for a while).
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10 Team RealitySportsOnline League (5-4) Half-PPR - 1QB, 2HB, 2WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 DST, 13 Bench **Adding another flex in 2020 and superflex in 2021**
QB: Patrick Mahomes (1yr)
HB: Dalvin Cook (2yrs), Miles Sanders (4yrs), Kareem Hunt (2yrs), Ronald Jones (3yrs), Rashaad Penny (3yrs), Tony Pollard (1yr), Kalen Ballage (1yr), J.D. McKissic (1yr), Mike Davis (1yr)
WR: DeAndre Hopkins (2yrs), DJ Moore (3yrs), John Brown (3yrs), Brandin Cooks (4yrs), Antonio Brown (2yrs), Anthony Miller (3yrs), Andy Isabella (4yrs), Diontae Johnson (1yr)
TE: George Kittle (4yrs), Jack Doyle (1yr)
DST: Streaming

Injured Reserve: None

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:49 pm

Lots of pieces, but as mentioned none are established and picks are still unknowns/dart throws. You land a top 5 overall asset...you did well here.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby mmass » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:57 pm

I'd pay that in a second for Hopkins..... of course I own him in something like 4 or 5 out of 7 leagues.... love me some nuk
Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 1 Yr 3
Newton Watson Darnold Allen Grier
Gurley Zeke Henry Barber Brown
Nuk Allen Boyd Ridley Hollywood MVS Crowder Hamilton Pettis Kee,Johnson
Andrews Njoku Witten Knox Jarwin Brate

Deep 2 Yr 4
Brady Stafford Brissett Dalton Lock
CMC DJ Mixon Hyde Ja.Williams Cohen
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Kupp Gallup D.Jackson K.Johnson D.Hamiltion M.Boykin AB
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly Watson

Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 6
Wentz Rothlisberger Dak Taylor Brisset
Zeke Cook Mixon Hyde Breida Edmonds T.Johnson Gio
M.Thomas Edelman Mclurin J.Landry Kirk
Hooper Goedart

SF2 - Yr 3
Watson Rosen Foles Brissett Finley
Barkley Gordon Ja.Williams R.Anderson
OBJ Hopkins Evans Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Howard Smith Warring

SF3 - Yr1
Goff Cousins Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines
Hopkins Boyd Lockett Jeffery Shepard Allison T.Williams Parker Boykins Harmon
Waller Njuku

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:00 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:49 pm
Lots of pieces, but as mentioned none are established and picks are still unknowns/dart throws. You land a top 5 overall asset...you did well here.
I agree its the cost of a top 5 dynasty player , Good trade
(TEAM 1) 12 Team, QB +%50 Rushing, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Goff, C.Newton
RB-M.Gordon, D.Cook, A.Ekeler, K.Ballage
WR-O.Beckham, D.Adams, M.Thomas, A.Brown, T.Boyd, D.Parker
TE-G.Kittle, D.Waller
Taxi-A.Mattison, I.Thomas, F.Moreau

(TEAM 2) 12 Team, .5 PPR
QB-D.Prescott, B.Roethlisberger
RB-A.Kamara, J.Mixon, K.Hunt, Ty.Johnson, JD.McKissic, G.Bernard
WR-T.Hill, M.Evans, K.Golladay, , S.Watkins, A.Brown
TE-J.Doyle, I.Thomas
Taxi-D.Thompson, Dar.Williams, O.Johnson

(TEAM 3) 12 Team, .15 PPC, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-D.Watson, D.Carr
RB-J.Mixon, D.Cook, R.Jones, A.Mattison, P.Barber
WR-J.Smith-Schuster, S.Diggs, K.Golladay, T.Boyd, T.Williams, G.Allison
TE-D.Waller, F.Moreau, I.Thomas

(TEAM 4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPC, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, K.Allen, J.Flacco
RB-E.Elliott, K.Ballage, K.Drake, C.Hyde, JD.McKissic, T.Pollard
WR-K.Allen, B.Cooks, S.Watkins, J.Reynolds, R.Cobb, G.Allison
TE-V.McDonald, J.Hollister


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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:10 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:49 pm
Lots of pieces, but as mentioned none are established and picks are still unknowns/dart throws. You land a top 5 overall asset...you did well here.
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TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Haskins, Dalton, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, D Washington, M Davis, Laird, Scarlett, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, Wims, Dez, Hardy
KITTLE, Waller, Herndon, Sternberger, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller, J Williams
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
KITTLE/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter and then a bunch of stashes for IDP

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby Dibbles » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:13 pm

Hopkins all day for a bunch of unproven stuff, especially if competing now.

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby jetsfan5757 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:43 pm

Yup. 3 quarters, a dime and a few nickels for a dollar. Do that allllllll day.

Great trade!
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)

QB (1): Brees, Winston, Darnold
RB (3): David Johnson, N. Chubb, D. Guice, D. Henry, T. Coleman, C. Thompson
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, J. Smith-Schuster, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, D. Pettis, P. Williams
TE (2): H. Henry, O.J. Howard, I. Thomas

K (1): Wil Lutz

DB (1): Landon Collins
LB (1): Luke Kuechly
DL (1): JJ Watt

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby Slackalacker » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:00 am

Great deal for Hopkins.
8-4|DYNASTY TEAM 1 - 10 team 1ppr 30 man roster | 2017 League Champ
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Brady - Carr
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Guice - Davis - Wilkins - Bonbon - JoWill - Bo - Ito(IR)
WR: Nuk - Adams - TY - DJ - Hollywood - Campbell - Pascal - JJAW - Miller - Keke - Gage
TE: Engram - Hock - Griffin - Stern

3-9|DYNASTY TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Olsen - Lacosse - Jonnu

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:59 am

jetsfan5757 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:43 pm
Yup. 3 quarters, a dime and a few nickels for a dollar. Do that allllllll day.

Great trade!
And I'll take those 3 quarters, a dime and 4 nickels from you anytime you want.

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby abloom » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:04 am

At worst, this seems pretty even. At best, this seems like you came out ahead by about a 1st.
Team #1 (9-4) rank: 2/12
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Scarbrough, Peterson, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel, Couttee
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,4,4,5,5,7
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Team #2 (9-4) rank: 3/12
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, AP, J Hill, B Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (10-3) rank 1/10
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, Parker
TE: Henry, Hooper
K: Lutz
DST: BAL

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:00 am

As a Hopkins owner, that wouldn't be enough for me.

Side Note: How is this the biggest trade that's ever gone down in your league? That's amazing to me, it's really not that big of a trade.
10 Team Dynasty Salary Cap League with 0.5 PPR and IDP - Est. 2018
2018 - Champions!
2019: 10-3, 1st Place, 1st in Points, Regular Season Champion, #1 Seed
35-40 man rosters - $200 budget
Starting Positions:
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 TE
1 WR/TE
1 K
9 IDP positions
2 DL
2 LB
2 DB
3 DL/LB/DB

Current Roster:
QB - Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Chris Carson, Sony Michel, Derrius Guice, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR - DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Robert Woods, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Parris Campbell, Anthony Miller, John Ross
TE - George Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Mike Gesicki, Dawson Knox
K - Matt Gay, Mike Badgley
DL - Joey Bosa, DeForest Buckner, Cameron Heyward, Robert Quinn
LB - Darius Leonard, Lavonte David, Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Matt Milano, Telvin Smith
DB - Shawn Williams, Logan Ryan, Kevin Byard, Kevin King
IR - Will Dissly, John Johnson III, Myles Jack

2020 - 3rd
2021 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2022 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby JOHNNY_COCKTAIL » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:38 am

A whole lot of bench furniture for hopkins
12 Team PPR (PPR- QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, FLEX, D, K)
QB- Winston
RB- Barkely, Cook, AP
WR- K. Allen, Hill, Diggs, Golladay, DJ Moore, Shepard, Enunwa, Callaway, Chark
TE- Kelce, Gesicki

10 Team .5 PPR. QB Premium. Added Big Play Points (QB, RB, WR, TE, 3 FLEX (non qb), D, K)
QB- Brees, Mayfield, Prescott
RB- Barkley, Cook, Dixon, I. Smith
WR- OBJ, D. Adams, Evans, B. Cooks, Kupp, C. Davis, Godwin, Boyd, Fuller, J. Gordon, Gallup
TE: Mike Gesicki, Vance McDonald

12 Team. Superflex. TE Premium. PPR. (QB, SF, 2-4 RB, 2-4 WR, TE)
QB: Wilson, Ryan, Eli, Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley, Mixon, Ekelar, I. Smith, D. Lewis, Gio
WR: Hill, Evans, KA, Metcalf, M. Brown, Whiteside, Agholor, D. Robinson
TE: McDonald, Reed, Hurst, Everett

12 team. PPR. Superflex.
(1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 3 Flex, TE)
QB: Luck, Wilson, Lock, Fitzpatrick
RB: Joe Mixon, Josh Jacobs, D. Lewis, J. Richard
WR: Mike Evans, Hill, Cooks, M.Brown, Gallup, Ross, Richardson
TE: Kelce, Everett, Smith

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby Blackstar110 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:42 am

FantasyFoosball wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:00 am
As a Hopkins owner, that wouldn't be enough for me.

Side Note: How is this the biggest trade that's ever gone down in your league? That's amazing to me, it's really not that big of a trade.
We’re only in Year Three — no one’s given up someone as highly valued as Hopkins and as such no one’s been willing to give up such a large quantity of future assets. People started off by undervaluing picks, leading to some already stacked teams having high firsts, and now I think the landscape has shifted to overvaluing them and clinging to them for dear life. I’m commish, so me and my two buddies who are most fantasy-obsessed try to trailblaze a little bit when possible. This is definitely a bolder move than the league is used to seeing, where it seems like most trades are either minor moves or someone’s getting totally robbed. Plus, it’s a salary cap league so there’s a factor that Hopkins makes a lot of money, but IMO that’s only appropriate for him. I’ll gladly pay what he’s worth.

(EDIT: I guess other studs like Zeke, Julio, and Mahomes have changed hands, but only with other studs involved coming back. There’s never been a trade of a guy like this for a million cheap young assets)

Thanks for all the feedback, guys! :biggrin: I’m excited, but was a little nervous. Glad I followed my gut and went for it.
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QB: Patrick Mahomes (1yr)
HB: Dalvin Cook (2yrs), Miles Sanders (4yrs), Kareem Hunt (2yrs), Ronald Jones (3yrs), Rashaad Penny (3yrs), Tony Pollard (1yr), Kalen Ballage (1yr), J.D. McKissic (1yr), Mike Davis (1yr)
WR: DeAndre Hopkins (2yrs), DJ Moore (3yrs), John Brown (3yrs), Brandin Cooks (4yrs), Antonio Brown (2yrs), Anthony Miller (3yrs), Andy Isabella (4yrs), Diontae Johnson (1yr)
TE: George Kittle (4yrs), Jack Doyle (1yr)
DST: Streaming

Injured Reserve: None

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby BradysBunch » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:56 am

If I am rebuilding, I would hesitate to take that since the firsts are late. It is a lot to give up, but I prefer Hopkins by an early first.
10 team / 28 man rosters
SF/PPR in 2021
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex
Mahomes/Winston/Murray/Minshew
Barkley/CMAC/Chubb/J Williams/
Gore/Hunt/Harris
Hopkins/Thomas/Evans/Fitz/P.WIlliams/Campbell
Kelce/Hooper

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Re: Did I pay too much for Hopkins?

Postby Goddard » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:49 am

Cheap for Nuk


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