L. Jackson vs 2x 2020 1sts (early)+ (Updated Offer)

[Dominus]

Hey everyone,

My team's(see my signature) done for the season, so, I'm making some moves to prepare for next year.

I have the option of trading Lamar Jackson for 2x 2020 1sts and a 2021 2nd or something comparable. These two firsts, with the 3 I already have, would give me 5 of the top 6 picks next year - one of which would be guaranteed to be #1 overall.

It's possible I end up with the #1 overall anyway (we have a loser "championship" to determine how the top 4 picks are ordered) without this trade.

Is it worth giving up Lamar Jackson to guarantee that I have the #1 overall pick in 2020? Is losing him in Superflex(which we start next year) going to be worth that gamble?

Let me know what you think! Poll added for simplicity.

Edit: Poll updated with latest offer. See my post further down this page for details.

[krtbuckeye]

If your league was staying 1QB, I'd say the 1sts, in SF I'd go Lamar

[Gator Sens]

I would hold Jackson in SF.

[BigBawseRoss]

idk its pretty close with only 9 keepers and 10 teams. i think i would move him and assume he isnt as good as mahomes and that i wont hate myself next season for the move

[Paul717]

Hold him and the nice amount of picks you already have...and roll out 2 great QBs every week next year. Those are 2 nice "high floor" but also "high ceiling" QBs to have, very nice.

[Paul717]

Hold him and the nice amount of picks you already have...and roll out 2 great QBs every week next year. Those are 2 nice "high floor" but also "high ceiling" QBs to have, very nice.

I mean, that's going to be a pretty tough to beat starting lineup next year. Plus Jackson is super fun to watch. Just my 2 cents.

[badbuddah]

idk its pretty close with only 9 keepers and 10 teams. i think i would move him and assume he isnt as good as mahomes and that i wont hate myself next season for the move

Is it just me or does he feel like a poor man's young Cam Newton? I mean that's a good player to have, but would mean he won't be the starter in ten years.

[Dominus]

Yeah, I'm really torn here. I don't like the idea of not having a second starting QB going into 2020. However, having the first 5 picks in next year's draft sounds incredible, assuming it's as talented as everyone thinks it is. Plus, it would give me 8 picks in the first two rounds! Is this class expected to be like the 2017 class where I could hit on CMC, Kamara, Mixon, Fournette, Hunt, etc.?

I'm considering countering with something like this:
Give: Lamar Jackson + 2021 1st
Get: Kyler Murray + 2x 2020 1sts

If I'm able to make that work, does that seem like good value? Is the difference between Murray & Jackson significant?

[jenkins.math]

Yeah, I'm really torn here. I don't like the idea of not having a second starting QB going into 2020. However, having the first 5 picks in next year's draft sounds incredible, assuming it's as talented as everyone thinks it is. Plus, it would give me 8 picks in the first two rounds! Is this class expected to be like the 2017 class where I could hit on CMC, Kamara, Mixon, Fournette, Hunt, etc.?

I'm considering countering with something like this:
Give: Lamar Jackson + 2021 1st
Get: Kyler Murray + 2x 2020 1sts

If I'm able to make that work, does that seem like good value? Is the difference between Murray & Jackson significant?

You can counter with that, but I doubt it gets accepted. You're basically buying Kyler Murray for a random 2021 first in SF. No way that is all he is worth.

[joeya2001]

idk its pretty close with only 9 keepers and 10 teams. i think i would move him and assume he isnt as good as mahomes and that i wont hate myself next season for the move

Is it just me or does he feel like a poor man's young Cam Newton? I mean that's a good player to have, but would mean he won't be the starter in ten years.

Ive been on his bandwagon since he got drafter and love the guy.
No way he's a Cam Newton, he's a better Version of Mike Vick.

[Dominus]

Alright, here's the next offer from the same owner:

Give: L. Jackson + 2020 3rd + 2021 3rd
Get: G. Minshew + 2x 2020 1sts + 2021 1st

Thoughts about this offer? This basically adds Minshew + a 2021 1st for (basically) nothing on my side.

I read through the Minshew thread and it seems like the general opinions of him are positive. I'm not sure if he'll be the starter next year, but, if he is, seems like he could be solid as a Superflex starter. Do I take that gamble and enjoy having "all the picks" next year?

Right now, my starters next year would look like:

QB1: L. Jackson
SF: A. Rodgers
RB1: Kamara
RB2: D. Singletary
WR1: D. Adams
WR2: C. Godwin
TE: D. Waller
Flex: K. Hunt (if he's flex-worthy - we'll find out soon, I guess)

If I get an upgrade for my RB2 and Flex, I feel like I'm in a really solid place. I'm starting to think I may be getting greedy trying to get 5 1sts for next year. I feel like I'd be getting insane value for him, though...

[Paul717]

If I understand your league settings correctly, you can only keep 9 players every year? Does that mean after the 2020 season (assuming you make this trade), you'd be forced to select 9 keepers out of the team you already have (which has several studs already) and FIVE first rounders next year? Seems like in this format, 3 first round picks is already plenty assuming one has a good team; which you do.

[Dominus]

If I understand your league settings correctly, you can only keep 9 players every year? Does that mean after the 2020 season (assuming you make this trade), you'd be forced to select 9 keepers out of the team you already have (which has several studs already) and FIVE first rounders next year? Seems like in this format, 3 first round picks is already plenty assuming one has a good team; which you do.

From my current team, I'll be selecting 9 players to keep. I have until 1 hour before our 2020 draft to make my keeper selections. The remaining players on my roster who are not selected as keepers will be dropped. Then we will have the 2020 draft.

Does that clarify things? We don't select our keepers after the draft, if that's what you were asking.

[Rustycage]

I'd keep Lamar with your league format, add that RB2 and Flex with your three 1st rounders and roll next year! It looks like a great time, QB's are so important in SF, keep Lamar.

[mmass]

going into superflex I keep Lamar.