Was this an insulting offer?

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Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Prison_Mike » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:12 pm

(Team 3 in signature) - 10tm | PPR| 1QB

A leaguemate only has 1 QB on his roster (Watson, who's about to be on bye) and is fighting for a playoff spot

I offered him the following trade:

Goff + Drake
for
Guice

He countered with:
2020 1st (currently 1.01) for Guice

He was trolling, because he immediately took to the group chat and said: "send me an offer when you're serious"

Was this really that far off?
Team 1:
12-team | Half PPR | 1QB - (startup year)
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLX
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tyrod, Fitzpatrick
RB: Saquon, Sanders, Coleman, Drake, Mostert, J.Hill, Pollard, Jackson, ito, Homer
WR: OBJ, AJB, Kirk, Tyrell, Tate, MJJ, Conley, Wilson
TE: Njoku, Olsen/Thomas, Jonnu, Moreau

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | 1QB - (startup year)
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, DST, K
QB: Dak, Dalton, Roethlisberger, Foles
RB: Zeke, Gordon, Sanders, Guice, Justice, Homer, Trayveon
WR: Hopkins, Keenan, Boyd, DJM, Gallup, Slayton Miller, Pettis, Wilson, Patrick
TE: Engram, Herndon, Ian Thomas, Knox
(Taxi): Oliver, Myers

Team 3:
10-Team | PPR | 1QB - (Year 2)
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1FLX, DST, K (shallow rosters)
QB: Ryan, Goff
RB: CMC, Fournette, Sanders, Drake, Penny
WR: Adams, OBJ, Hilton, DJ Moore, Harry, Deebo, Campbell, Parker
TE: Andrews, Henry, Herndon

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Packerland » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:16 pm

Take that deal and run!
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Winston, Goff, Brady, Lock
RB: Zeke, Mixon, Drake, Guice
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, OBJ, McLaurin, Mike Williams, D. Johnson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
K: Boswell, Gay
D/ST: Chargers, Eagles

Picks:
2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04,
2021 1 2nd, 2 3's

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Goddard » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:18 pm

No, not insulting, but I can understand turning it down. His response definitely wasn't warranted.

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Prison_Mike » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:18 pm

Packerland wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:16 pm
Take that deal and run!
What deal...

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Prison_Mike » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:21 pm

Goddard wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:18 pm
No, not insulting, but I can understand turning it down. His response definitely wasn't warranted.
Sure, I don't blame him for turning it down. His players: his choice/price
But calling me out in the group chat when I made a reasonable offer for a guy who is certainly talented, but carries a lot of risk? C'mon

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Dibbles » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:22 pm

Haha, not insulting at all . . . but you have to understand that anyone who has held Guice this long likely values him at near-Saquon levels given all the hype, disappointment, hype, disappointment, etc. OK, not really near Saquon but I've found most Guice owners are currently holding him with a vice-grip (while praying desperately).

I however am a non-Guice believer (due to knee, not ability) and would have kindly accepted your offer. :lol:

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Packerland » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:26 pm

Didn't he counter with giving Guice and getting a 2020 pick which is now 1.01?
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Winston, Goff, Brady, Lock
RB: Zeke, Mixon, Drake, Guice
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, OBJ, McLaurin, Mike Williams, D. Johnson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
K: Boswell, Gay
D/ST: Chargers, Eagles

Picks:
2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04,
2021 1 2nd, 2 3's

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Slackalacker » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:27 pm

Goff and drake isn’t great but it is not insulting

The 1.1 for Guice is ludicrous at this point I’d be happy if someone even offered me a late 1st.
TEAM 1 - 10 team 1PPR (SF in 2021) | 2017 & 2019 League Champ :dance:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/4FLEX - 1.01/2.01/2.03/3.02/4.10/5.08
QB: Wilson - Brady - Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Guice - Samuels - Ito - Bo
WR: Nuk - Adams - Godwin - Hollywood - Campbell - Miller- Perriman - JJAW - Pascal - Hurd - Gage - Ward
TE: Engram - Hock - Olsen - Stern

TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Olsen - Lacosse - Jonnu

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Slackalacker » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:28 pm

Packerland wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:26 pm
Didn't he counter with giving Guice and getting a 2020 pick which is now 1.01?
OP is trying to buy Guice, the owner of Guice wants the 1.1 from the OP
TEAM 1 - 10 team 1PPR (SF in 2021) | 2017 & 2019 League Champ :dance:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/4FLEX - 1.01/2.01/2.03/3.02/4.10/5.08
QB: Wilson - Brady - Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Guice - Samuels - Ito - Bo
WR: Nuk - Adams - Godwin - Hollywood - Campbell - Miller- Perriman - JJAW - Pascal - Hurd - Gage - Ward
TE: Engram - Hock - Olsen - Stern

TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Olsen - Lacosse - Jonnu

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:28 pm

nope that guy is just a weird dude
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


team 3
http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0008

team 4
https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0010

team 5
http://www57.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =0008&O=07

team 6
http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0004

team 7
https://www51.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0011

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:31 pm

Your offers not great but its certaintly not bad either, especially given the circumstances and drake's resurgence
12 team ppr 1qb 2rb 2wt 1te 1 flex 2lb 2db 2dl 1dflex
Eli manning,
A. Brown, Dez, TY Hilton,Crabtree, K. Aiken
D. Free, Howard, Ingram, demarco, AP, Powell
Kelce
Cam Jordan,Calais Campbell, Suh, Heyward, Sheard
Ogletree, Davis, Poz,Ragland, Woodyard, Misi, Demario Davis, Casillas
, Cyprien, Chancellor,

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Prison_Mike » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:40 pm

Slackalacker wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:28 pm
Packerland wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:26 pm
Didn't he counter with giving Guice and getting a 2020 pick which is now 1.01?
OP is trying to buy Guice, the owner of Guice wants the 1.1 from the OP
Correct, I own the 1.01
He countered by offering me Guice for the 1.01, but was trolling because my offer was apparently so insulting

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:40 pm

The offer was fine.
You're in this for Life
12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Mecole Hardman, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 1.01, 1.03, 2.12, 3.11, 4.08, 5.08 2021: 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Packerland » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:41 pm

I apologize, read that wrong. I thought he was willing to give up the 1.01 for Guice.
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Winston, Goff, Brady, Lock
RB: Zeke, Mixon, Drake, Guice
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, OBJ, McLaurin, Mike Williams, D. Johnson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
K: Boswell, Gay
D/ST: Chargers, Eagles

Picks:
2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04,
2021 1 2nd, 2 3's

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Re: Was this an insulting offer?

Postby Prison_Mike » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:50 pm

Dibbles wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:22 pm
Haha, not insulting at all . . . but you have to understand that anyone who has held Guice this long likely values him at near-Saquon levels given all the hype, disappointment, hype, disappointment, etc. OK, not really near Saquon but I've found most Guice owners are currently holding him with a vice-grip (while praying desperately).

I however am a non-Guice believer (due to knee, not ability) and would have kindly accepted your offer. :lol:
Yep, I'm learning that this is the case with most owners. This isn't the first time it's happened with this owner either
Earlier in the season I sent him:

Parris Campbell + Royce + an early 2020 2nd for Guice (which was arguably an overpay)
He countered with (x2) 2020 1sts for Guice

Overvalue your players all you want, but don't call guys out in the group chat unless someone is frequently sending you TERRIBLE offers lol
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