Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:18 pm

Goddard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:46 am
hoos89 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:59 am
Peepyopee wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:14 am Buying now is the top. I tried with a mid 1st and was quickly shut down. Specially if the person who has him is doing well. Let's see if his value takes a hit while Flacco is out and Sanders is gone and go from there.
It's not like Flacco was crushing it.
You think he continues averaging 15 points per game with Allen or Lock at QB going forward? Not saying he can't, just curious what your thoughts are.
He's only exceeded 15 points 3 times this season, and 2 of those were against teams ranked 15th or worse against the pass (per MFL). 5 of their remaining 7 games during the fantasy season are against teams ranked 7, 8, 3, 6 and 11. So no, but I don't think he would have averaged 15 ppg with Flacco either.
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Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
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Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby Goddard » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:10 pm

hoos89 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:18 pm
Goddard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:46 am
hoos89 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:59 am

It's not like Flacco was crushing it.
You think he continues averaging 15 points per game with Allen or Lock at QB going forward? Not saying he can't, just curious what your thoughts are.
He's only exceeded 15 points 3 times this season, and 2 of those were against teams ranked 15th or worse against the pass (per MFL). 5 of their remaining 7 games during the fantasy season are against teams ranked 7, 8, 3, 6 and 11. So no, but I don't think he would have averaged 15 ppg with Flacco either.
Fine, but do you think he will produce the same with or without Flacco over the next 7 games? Or do you expect him to struggle even more regardless of the competition now that Flacco is out?
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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby jonesmaster » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:26 pm

I think Denver is a premium landing spot for a bridge QB given their history. Even if not, they'll be in a position to draft a good one. I think Sutton is worth multiple mid firsts. No one is going to sell for a single first outside top 3, and in that case i wouldnt buy
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RB: AK , Mostert
WR: Godwin , Deebo , Dotson , Hollywood, Addison, E. Moore
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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:14 pm

I do not think he will be significantly better or worse than he otherwise would have been were Flacco healthy.
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JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
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Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby Mjvb5 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:27 pm

early first has gotta be the starting point
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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby Peepyopee » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:27 am

Goddard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:46 am
hoos89 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:59 am
Peepyopee wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:14 am Buying now is the top. I tried with a mid 1st and was quickly shut down. Specially if the person who has him is doing well. Let's see if his value takes a hit while Flacco is out and Sanders is gone and go from there.
It's not like Flacco was crushing it.
You think he continues averaging 15 points per game with Allen or Lock at QB going forward? Not saying he can't, just curious what your thoughts are.
Yea, we have no idea. It seemed like Flacco was leaning on him (plus he is good) and helped his production. We dont know what the next QB will have in store for his targets/output. Flacco isnt god, but was getting him the football. The next man up is a question mark.
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WR: Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Chase Claypool, Michael Gallup, Brashad Perriman, Byron Pringle, Auden Tate, Amari Rogers, Dyami Brown, Anthony Schwartz
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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby RoyalPalmer » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:03 pm

He looks like a true WR1. Even if Lock is his QB I think you got a wr similar to Greens situation in Cincy
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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby Mike from Canada » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:10 pm

Maybe not quite on Green's level but looking promising.
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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby mmass » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:15 pm

Just picked him up in a 2 QB league.... i got Sutton, Engram, and a 2nd for Brissett.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee

SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
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Re: Courtland Sutton Value in 2020 1sts

Postby chubnubbin » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:35 am

mmass wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:15 pm Just picked him up in a 2 QB league.... i got Sutton, Engram, and a 2nd for Brissett.
i like it. especially if you have 2 other solid to great options at qb.
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