Mattison Value?
Mattison Value?
I'm offering early 2020 2nd round pick...Good.. bad?
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Re: Mattison Value?
That's more than fair in my eyes, he looks great but has a major roadblock to significant playing time barring injury. I'd think mid-to-late 2nd is more appropriate.
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Re: Mattison Value?
Late 2nd for long term hope.
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RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
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RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
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Re: Mattison Value?
Agree! Cook isn't going anywhere for a few years. There would need to be an injury or a trade for Mattison to get a grip on anything. Highly unlikely Minnesota is trading a talented dirt cheap option.
Re: Mattison Value?
Early 2nd is too much for me. As others have said, Cook isn’t going anywhere for the next few years, so Mattison will be stuck behind him and has minimal value, unless an injury occurs. Mid-late 2nd is more appropriate.
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Re: Mattison Value?
I kind of view the situation like Tomlinson and Turner (provided Mattison keeps developing). Turner had to wait a few years, move on and then was a beast for a couple years elsewhere as a starter.
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QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
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RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas
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Re: Mattison Value?
Perhaps true... I would expect Mattison to have the same value in a year. Giving a 2nd in this draft doesn't make a lot of sense if you can give a 2nd in the following draftGator Sens wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:37 pmI kind of view the situation like Tomlinson and Turner (provided Mattison keeps developing). Turner had to wait a few years, move on and then was a beast for a couple years elsewhere as a starter.
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Re: Mattison Value?
I tried buying Mattison in my league for a 2nd + Duke Johnson and it got declined. I have a competing team and am a Cook owner. Also, Duke is expendable for me. I knew I was overpaying but I wanted that Cook insurance. I wouldn't say Cook isn't going anywhere, All it takes is a hamstring issue for Cook and he'll be out for weeks. Mattison immediately becomes a RB 1.
Re: Mattison Value?
I own Mattison in 4 of my 5 dynasty leagues. I imagine most owners are like me: we're holding out until Cook goes down, and then Mattison will either be A) a league winner for us on a competitive team, or B) a huge selling piece to a competitive team, potentially even for a future 1st.DynastyDabbler wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:06 pmI tried buying Mattison in my league for a 2nd + Duke Johnson and it got declined. I have a competing team and am a Cook owner. Also, Duke is expendable for me. I knew I was overpaying but I wanted that Cook insurance. I wouldn't say Cook isn't going anywhere, All it takes is a hamstring issue for Cook and he'll be out for weeks. Mattison immediately becomes a RB 1.
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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
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Zeke,Conner,Bell,Hyde,Duke,Mattison,Scarborough,Edmonds
Hopkins,Thomas,Cooks,Watkins,MWilliams,PWill
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KJ,Jacobs,RFreeman,Mattison,BHill
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Fells,Howard,Herndon
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2021:1,1,2,2,3,4
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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
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JonWilliams,Duke,Gio,Yeldon,Mattison,Snell,DarwinT
Cooper,Juju,Godwin,Kirk,Washington,AJBrown,PWill,Reynolds
Henry,Andrews,Everett
2020: 1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,3,4,5
2021: 1,2,2,2,3,4,5
Team 2: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '17 2nd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Rodgers,Rivers,Stafford
Zeke,Conner,Bell,Hyde,Duke,Mattison,Scarborough,Edmonds
Hopkins,Thomas,Cooks,Watkins,MWilliams,PWill
Kittle,Henry,Ebron
2020: 2,3
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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex SFlex
Cousins,Kyler,Hoyer
Zeke,LMurray,Ingram,Scarborough,Gio,BHill
Evans,DJMoore,Watkins,Boyd,Davis,Lazard
Fant,McDonald,Fells
Team 4: 16-Team, 6 pt all TD,PPR Startup 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE FLEX FLEX
Stafford,Mariota,Tanny, Rosen
KJ,Jacobs,RFreeman,Mattison,BHill
DJMoore,Watkins,Lockett,Isabella,Washington,Ross
Fells,Howard,Herndon
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Re: Mattison Value?
Team 3 - Someone just offered me Mattison for Drake , I took it since I have Cook.
Team 2 - I moved Mattison for Darwin , Anderson (Cinn hurt RB) , 2nd , 3rd.
Overall I would pay a early 2nd if I had Cook , I would sell for a mid 2nd if I didn't have Cook
Team 2 - I moved Mattison for Darwin , Anderson (Cinn hurt RB) , 2nd , 3rd.
Overall I would pay a early 2nd if I had Cook , I would sell for a mid 2nd if I didn't have Cook
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Re: Mattison Value?
2nd may be fair......but the owner may not sell.......
If I could buy for a 2nd I would....In leagues where I have him...I am not moving him for that.....will have to be an overpay to sell.......
If I could buy for a 2nd I would....In leagues where I have him...I am not moving him for that.....will have to be an overpay to sell.......
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Re: Mattison Value?
I like Mattison, I suspect I'll own him in several leagues next season. This is not time to trade for him, people are excited about his ability and he had the rookie boost going for him. He's in a terrible fantasy situation and I suspect after owning him for a season or more without being able to start him his owners will sell him for considerable less in the future.
This does leave to risk the chance of Cook going down and Mattison's value exploding.
This does leave to risk the chance of Cook going down and Mattison's value exploding.
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