Hooper is easily worth a #1?

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Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby imi814 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:10 am

For team 2 in sig. my team is pretty good but sitting at 5-3 due to crazy scoring with qbs. I have 6 number one picks in 2020. Other guy has offered me hooper for '20 #1 that should be mid. I already have ertz but is the value too good to pass up?

Going forward hooper is worth more than a one right? Even in a stacked draft.
10 team start 2QB salary cap .5 PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

QB: Wilson Wentz Lamar teddy (holding luck)
RB: CMC Fournette Cook Kerryon Cohen Penny Yeldon Damien Williams
WR: OBJ Hopkins Adams Kupp M. Williams Miller
TE: Ertz OJ Henry

Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

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WR: Hopkins M Thomas Evans Kupp Ridley Chark Miller JJAW
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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:12 am

Yes. I would try to push for the 1st to be one of your later picks however. Either way though, I would pay that for Hooper. He is an elite TE without the name.
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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby Goddard » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:16 am

He's worth more than a mid 1st, even if you already own Ertz (who he's outscoring by a good amount).

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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby hingle » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:29 am

I don’t know much about salary cap leagues but that seems like an easy accept.
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QB: A. Rodgers, C. Wentz, Bridgewater
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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:30 am

With 6 #1 picks I wouldn’t even think twice about accepting that.. go get him
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1-QB 2-RB 3-WR 3-Flex 1-TE 1-K 1-Def

QB- Patrick Mahomes, Drew Lock

RB- Miles Sanders, Kareem Hunt, Rashaad Penny, Jordan Howard, Duke Johnson, Jaylen Samuels, Chase Edmonds, Tony Pollard, Justin Jackson

WR- OBJ, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Julian Edelman, Andy Isabella, Miles Boykin, Tre’quan Smith, Preston Williams, Russell Gage, Steven Sims

TE- George Kittle, Mark Andrews, Ian Thomas, Chris Herndon

K- Justin Tucker
Def- Cowboys for now

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QB- Deshaun Watson, Kyler Murray

RB- Alvin Kamara, Aaron Jones, Devin Singletary, David Johnson

WR- DJ Moore, Tyler Boyd, Christian Kirk, Tyler Lockett, Darius Slayton

TE- Mark Andrews, Austin Hooper

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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby imi814 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:35 am

hingle wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:29 am
I don’t know much about salary cap leagues but that seems like an easy accept.
The salary cap does play a tiny part. For this year it will be no problem to fit hooper under my cap. But next year it might be tough for me to keep both ertz and hooper as their salaries will both be high. But do I make the trade on value and just worry about the cap next year?
10 team start 2QB salary cap .5 PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

QB: Wilson Wentz Lamar teddy (holding luck)
RB: CMC Fournette Cook Kerryon Cohen Penny Yeldon Damien Williams
WR: OBJ Hopkins Adams Kupp M. Williams Miller
TE: Ertz OJ Henry

Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

QB: Winston Darnold
RB: Kamara Cook A jones Kerryon Hyde
WR: Hopkins M Thomas Evans Kupp Ridley Chark Miller JJAW
TE: Ertz Burton

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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby Slackalacker » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:36 am

I’d do it.
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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby imi814 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:39 am

Also if u keep rookies on your taxi they count zero against the cap. So #1 picks in this league might be worth more than a typical league due to the salary cap. You always need young cheap talent to work the cap.
10 team start 2QB salary cap .5 PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

QB: Wilson Wentz Lamar teddy (holding luck)
RB: CMC Fournette Cook Kerryon Cohen Penny Yeldon Damien Williams
WR: OBJ Hopkins Adams Kupp M. Williams Miller
TE: Ertz OJ Henry

Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

QB: Winston Darnold
RB: Kamara Cook A jones Kerryon Hyde
WR: Hopkins M Thomas Evans Kupp Ridley Chark Miller JJAW
TE: Ertz Burton

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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:51 am

no chance in hell i do that personally, especially not with ertz as my starter. im not willing to give a 2020 first in hopes i play the right dude at te each week. you are asking for a lineup headache imo.
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Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby hoos89 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:27 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:51 am
no chance in hell i do that personally, especially not with ertz as my starter. im not willing to give a 2020 first in hopes i play the right dude at te each week. you are asking for a lineup headache imo.
Then do the deal and try to get name value for Ertz.
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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby perkinsrooster » Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:45 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:51 am
no chance in hell i do that personally, especially not with ertz as my starter. im not willing to give a 2020 first in hopes i play the right dude at te each week. you are asking for a lineup headache imo.
I have lineup headaches every week. Having lots of good players is a great problem to have although I have noticed that one side effect is winning.

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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby Goddard » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:08 pm

Owning the #1 TE in fantasy isn't a headache. You start him over Ertz every week and feel good about it, unless something crazy happens. Even if it doesn't work out some of the weeks, you take that risk. Hoping Ertz and that offense can have a decent game is the real headache for Ertz owners. Also, if the value is cheap, why wouldn't you buy a player? Depth is never a bad thing.

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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:49 pm

Goddard wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:08 pm
Owning the #1 TE in fantasy isn't a headache. You start him over Ertz every week and feel good about it, unless something crazy happens. Even if it doesn't work out some of the weeks, you take that risk. Hoping Ertz and that offense can have a decent game is the real headache for Ertz owners. Also, if the value is cheap, why wouldn't you buy a player? Depth is never a bad thing.
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After you get Hooper then try and trade Ertz if you are really concerned about rostering both. Most teams are in TE hell that I bet someone will overpay on Ertz. I wouldn't even be shocked if you traded a mid first for Hooper and shipped Ertz out for equal or greater value than that.
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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby imi814 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:17 pm

jenkins.math wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:49 pm
Goddard wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:08 pm
Owning the #1 TE in fantasy isn't a headache. You start him over Ertz every week and feel good about it, unless something crazy happens. Even if it doesn't work out some of the weeks, you take that risk. Hoping Ertz and that offense can have a decent game is the real headache for Ertz owners. Also, if the value is cheap, why wouldn't you buy a player? Depth is never a bad thing.
This^

After you get Hooper then try and trade Ertz if you are really concerned about rostering both. Most teams are in TE hell that I bet someone will overpay on Ertz. I wouldn't even be shocked if you traded a mid first for Hooper and shipped Ertz out for equal or greater value than that.

I was thinking the same on ertz. I would prob hold ertz and look to trade him next year.
10 team start 2QB salary cap .5 PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

QB: Wilson Wentz Lamar teddy (holding luck)
RB: CMC Fournette Cook Kerryon Cohen Penny Yeldon Damien Williams
WR: OBJ Hopkins Adams Kupp M. Williams Miller
TE: Ertz OJ Henry

Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

QB: Winston Darnold
RB: Kamara Cook A jones Kerryon Hyde
WR: Hopkins M Thomas Evans Kupp Ridley Chark Miller JJAW
TE: Ertz Burton

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Re: Hooper is easily worth a #1?

Postby Bennyblanco22 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:27 am

Hooper just sold in my league for '20 & '21 firsts which i thought was unbelievable but paying one first is a win.
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