Wallers Value

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Re: Wallers Value

Postby nathanq42 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:47 pm

FOOTBALL!!! wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:42 pm I think a first is enough for him. The dudes had half a good season.
How many good seasons has Kittle had?
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RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
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Re: Wallers Value

Postby AresGodOWar » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:13 pm

Waller is a nice sell high , I picked him up in every league before the year and is very talented, But a lot of it has to do with Oak not having any thing else, Tyrell is about to come back and Oak will add a top WR next year
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Wallers Value

Postby BucBuc » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:59 am

It's like pulling teeth trying to get a TE rn...
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RBS: Bijan,Pacheco,D.Harris,Fournette,GibsonDillon,Penny, Darell Williams,Chestnut,Ty Chandler,M
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Re: Wallers Value

Postby jonesmaster » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:10 am

he's a polarizing player in terms of value. and one that ive found where sellers and buyers have vastly different ideas about value. Personally, i would give no more than a mid-first, but i could be selling him short. The problem seems to be getting him for that value
8-team SF / 0.5 PPR / TE (Full PPR) Scoring: 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 2FLX, 1 SFLX, 1TE, 1D/ST, K (Only relevant players listed)

QB: Kyler , Dak , R. Wilson, Dimes, Kenny P
RB: AK , Mostert
WR: Godwin , Deebo , Dotson , Hollywood, Addison, E. Moore
TE: Andrews , Njoku, LaPorta, Washington, Mayer
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Re: Wallers Value

Postby Spongehack » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:56 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:13 pm Waller is a nice sell high , I picked him up in every league before the year and is very talented, But a lot of it has to do with Oak not having any thing else, Tyrell is about to come back and Oak will add a top WR next year
One could argue that Waller has been doing it since week 1 even before Tyrell got injured, and if OAK adds a WR, that will take attention off of Waller.
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RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox

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Re: Wallers Value

Postby jski33 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:25 am

I think he is worth a 1st rounder all day long.

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Re: Wallers Value

Postby diamonddave » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:16 am

OhSnapItsAnt wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:29 pm
badbuddah wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:03 am You guys serious? mid-late 1st only? Horseshit. I've been told Ertz AND a late 1st to "consider" it. Waller is getting more and more expensive folks...
I agree 100%.. it’s hard to land a legitimate TE.

Also a Mid to late first got you Campbell, DK, Darell Henderson, Hock and Fant this year... it’s always a gamble.

You know what you’re getting in Waller... he’s worth absolutely more that a mid-late 1st...

Although with your team, looks like youre Rebuilding .. you’ll be getting Njoku back and I’m not sure if paying for Waller at his top value really helps you.
Re: Mid-to-Late 1st...True, that's what you got this year but the 2020 draft class >>>>>>>>>>> 2019 draft class. Lotsa game-changing players there
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QB: Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew
RB: Saquon Barkley, David Montgomery, D'Onta Foreman, AJ Dillon, Kenneth Gainwell, Jeff Wilson, Rico Dowdle, IR: JK Dobbins
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Cooper Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Marquise Brown, Josh Palmer, Dontayvion Wicks, Tutu Atwell
TE: TJ Hockensen, Pat Freiermuth
K: Dustin Hopkins
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DL: Jonathan Greenard , Malcolm Koonce
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Re: Wallers Value

Postby diamonddave » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:18 am

badbuddah wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:03 am You guys serious? mid-late 1st only? Horseshit. I've been told Ertz AND a late 1st to "consider" it. Waller is getting more and more expensive folks...
my man, no need to curse. we all value players differently. for every offer of ertz and a late 1st to consider, there are other offers of a 1st for waller.
12-team, PPR, 2QB, IDP League--Start 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 W/R/T, 2D, 1LB, 1DL, 1DB

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew
RB: Saquon Barkley, David Montgomery, D'Onta Foreman, AJ Dillon, Kenneth Gainwell, Jeff Wilson, Rico Dowdle, IR: JK Dobbins
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Cooper Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Marquise Brown, Josh Palmer, Dontayvion Wicks, Tutu Atwell
TE: TJ Hockensen, Pat Freiermuth
K: Dustin Hopkins
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Re: Wallers Value

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:57 am

diamonddave wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:16 am
OhSnapItsAnt wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:29 pm
badbuddah wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:03 am You guys serious? mid-late 1st only? Horseshit. I've been told Ertz AND a late 1st to "consider" it. Waller is getting more and more expensive folks...
I agree 100%.. it’s hard to land a legitimate TE.

Also a Mid to late first got you Campbell, DK, Darell Henderson, Hock and Fant this year... it’s always a gamble.

You know what you’re getting in Waller... he’s worth absolutely more that a mid-late 1st...

Although with your team, looks like youre Rebuilding .. you’ll be getting Njoku back and I’m not sure if paying for Waller at his top value really helps you.
Re: Mid-to-Late 1st...True, that's what you got this year but the 2020 draft class >>>>>>>>>>> 2019 draft class. Lotsa game-changing players there

I understand that the 2020 draft class is going to be better.. but my point is that you know what you’re getting in Waller and it’s hard to land a good TE.. a mid-late first is always a gamble. You have the Treadwells that can’t make the change... and like the AJ Browns and Fants that landed in a bad QB situation ..
Waller (with a brand new signing) is worth a more than a mid-late first IMO.
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1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku


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