POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Which side?

OBJ + Henry
6
27%
Moore + Jacobs + 2020 1st
16
73%
 
Total votes: 22

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POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby blemly » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:19 am

Team 3 in sig. Looking to get younger and buy both low and high on some young talent. Potential trading partner is in last place at 0-6 and has some aging WRs on his roster aside from Moore. Thoughts? I have no firsts for 2020 but have started trying to accumulate young talent for the future.

Give: OBJ + D. Henry
Get: DJ Moore + Jacobs + 2020 1st (T6 guaranteed)
Team 1: 10-team 15-keeper PPR:
QB: Cousins, Winston
RB: Zeke, DJ, Kerryon, Williams, Hill, Singletary
WR: Hopkins, Allen, Hilton, M. Williams, Pettis, Washington, A. Brown
TE: Kittle, Goedert
2020: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2 (Rebuild): 12-team Superflex 22-man 0.5PPR, 1.0PP1D:
QB: Rodgers, Wilson
RB: KJ, Cohen, Sanders, Laird
WR: OBJ, JuJu, Chark, Samuel, Pettis, Tate, Hardman, Isabella, Boykin
TE: OJH, Fant
2020: 2, 2, 2, 3, 4
2021: 1, 2, 2, 2

Team 3: 12-team Superflex 28-man 3WR PPR:
QB: Cousins, Rodgers, Rosen, Grier
RB: Henry, Sanders, Guice, Penny, Armstead
WR: KA, AB, OBJ, Golladay, Pettis, Washington, Slayton, Z. Jones
TE: OJH, Herndon, Gesicki
2020: 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 4 (Rebuild): 12-team Superflex 28-man 3WR PPR:
QB: Watson, Garopollo, Haskins
RB: Mixon, Jacobs, Mack, Hill
WR: Hill, Lockett, Chark, Boykin, McLaurin, Cobb, D. Thomas
TE: OJH, Rudolph, Moreau
2020: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby Dibbles » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:31 am

Wow, very surprised by results so far, easily Moore side for me even tho OBJ is best piece, I am not a D Henry truther whatsoever.

Early 1st + DJM <= OBJ
Jacobs >>> D Henry

Edit: DJM is also very undervalued IMO, what he’s showing early in career with very mediocre QB play is something very few WR’s his age have replicated.

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby RB6 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:35 am

Moore side for me too. I like Jacobs a lot more than Henry.
Team 1
10 Team Devy SF .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Watson, Wilson, Rudolph, Tannehill, Teddy, K. Allen, Lock
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Deebo, Hamilton, Pascal
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Wilkins
TE: Andrews, J. Smith
Devy: Tua, Reagor, Akers

Team 2
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Garoppolo, Darnold
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, G. Tate, A. Miller, Pascal, A. Tate, Hamilton, Gage, Patrick, Perriman
RB: Zeke, Jacobs, Carson, Darwin, Hilliard, Armstead, De. Washington, Ollison, Homer
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Dissly, Moreau

Team 3
12 Team SF PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Rodgers, Carr, Hill, Mullens, Rypien
RB: Chubb, Fournette, KJ, D. Freeman, Hunt, C. Thompson, Hilliard, Laird, Nall
WR: Allen, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, G. Tate, Crowder, Hamilton, A. Tate, Pascal
TE: Andrews, Thomas, Graham

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby perkinsrooster » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:37 am

Dibbles wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:31 am
Wow, very surprised by results so far, easily Moore side for me even tho OBJ is best piece, I am not a D Henry truther whatsoever.

Early 1st + DJM <= OBJ
Jacobs >>> D Henry

Edit: DJM is also very undervalued IMO, what he’s showing early in career with very mediocre QB play is something very few WR’s his age have replicated.
I think most would say OBJ is worth more than a first and DJ Moore.

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby Goddard » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:40 am

It's pretty close for me. If was a slightly better RB than Henry, I'd go OBJ side. Right now, the value's on the Jacobs side.

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:42 am

It’s pretty close but I still lean OBJ

I’d much prefer that you keep OBJ and sell Henry for a First somewhere
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Haskins, Dalton, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, D Washington, M Davis, Laird, Scarlett, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, Wims, Dez, Hardy
KITTLE, Waller, Herndon, Sternberger, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller, J Williams
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
KITTLE/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter and then a bunch of stashes for IDP

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby blemly » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:50 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:42 am
It’s pretty close but I still lean OBJ

I’d much prefer that you keep OBJ and sell Henry for a First somewhere
I have Keenan Allen too. Might start with KA + Henry for DJ + Jacobs + 1st and go from there.
Team 1: 10-team 15-keeper PPR:
QB: Cousins, Winston
RB: Zeke, DJ, Kerryon, Williams, Hill, Singletary
WR: Hopkins, Allen, Hilton, M. Williams, Pettis, Washington, A. Brown
TE: Kittle, Goedert
2020: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2 (Rebuild): 12-team Superflex 22-man 0.5PPR, 1.0PP1D:
QB: Rodgers, Wilson
RB: KJ, Cohen, Sanders, Laird
WR: OBJ, JuJu, Chark, Samuel, Pettis, Tate, Hardman, Isabella, Boykin
TE: OJH, Fant
2020: 2, 2, 2, 3, 4
2021: 1, 2, 2, 2

Team 3: 12-team Superflex 28-man 3WR PPR:
QB: Cousins, Rodgers, Rosen, Grier
RB: Henry, Sanders, Guice, Penny, Armstead
WR: KA, AB, OBJ, Golladay, Pettis, Washington, Slayton, Z. Jones
TE: OJH, Herndon, Gesicki
2020: 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 4 (Rebuild): 12-team Superflex 28-man 3WR PPR:
QB: Watson, Garopollo, Haskins
RB: Mixon, Jacobs, Mack, Hill
WR: Hill, Lockett, Chark, Boykin, McLaurin, Cobb, D. Thomas
TE: OJH, Rudolph, Moreau
2020: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:53 am

blemly wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:50 am
lukkynumber13 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:42 am
It’s pretty close but I still lean OBJ

I’d much prefer that you keep OBJ and sell Henry for a First somewhere
I have Keenan Allen too. Might start with KA + Henry for DJ + Jacobs + 1st and go from there.
Man, I really wouldn’t want to sell KA right now either.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Haskins, Dalton, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, D Washington, M Davis, Laird, Scarlett, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, Wims, Dez, Hardy
KITTLE, Waller, Herndon, Sternberger, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller, J Williams
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
KITTLE/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter and then a bunch of stashes for IDP

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby Slackalacker » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:33 pm

I lean towards the obj side but it’s good value.
9-4 - 1st SEED|DYNASTY TEAM 1 - 10 team 1ppr 30 man roster | 2017 League Champ
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1FLEX - 1.01/1.02/2.01/3/4/4/5
QB: Brady - Carr - Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Samuels - Ware - Bo - Ito - Guice(IR)
WR: Nuk - Adams - DJ - TY - Hollywood - Campbell - Pascal - JJAW - Miller - Hurd - Gage
TE: Engram - Akins - Josh Hill - Kaden Smith - Stern - Hock(IR)

4-9 - 9/10|DYNASTY TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Olsen - Lacosse - Jonnu

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:16 pm

I would take the Jacobs side in a rebuild.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby Goddard » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:21 pm

I had to go back and look at your roster. I'm not sure why you'd want to go into a "major rebuild"? Yes, you've been unlucky and started off 0-6, but that's a pretty good roster/team for a SF. I'd make a few moves to retool and get better for next year, but I don't see any reason to blow it all up.

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby blemly » Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:45 pm

Goddard wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:21 pm
I had to go back and look at your roster. I'm not sure why you'd want to go into a "major rebuild"? Yes, you've been unlucky and started off 0-6, but that's a pretty good roster/team for a SF. I'd make a few moves to retool and get better for next year, but I don't see any reason to blow it all up.
I guess you're right. It has certainly been a down year, but my prospective trade partner is 0-6, not me. I'm still just marginally better at 2-4, though.
Team 1: 10-team 15-keeper PPR:
QB: Cousins, Winston
RB: Zeke, DJ, Kerryon, Williams, Hill, Singletary
WR: Hopkins, Allen, Hilton, M. Williams, Pettis, Washington, A. Brown
TE: Kittle, Goedert
2020: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2 (Rebuild): 12-team Superflex 22-man 0.5PPR, 1.0PP1D:
QB: Rodgers, Wilson
RB: KJ, Cohen, Sanders, Laird
WR: OBJ, JuJu, Chark, Samuel, Pettis, Tate, Hardman, Isabella, Boykin
TE: OJH, Fant
2020: 2, 2, 2, 3, 4
2021: 1, 2, 2, 2

Team 3: 12-team Superflex 28-man 3WR PPR:
QB: Cousins, Rodgers, Rosen, Grier
RB: Henry, Sanders, Guice, Penny, Armstead
WR: KA, AB, OBJ, Golladay, Pettis, Washington, Slayton, Z. Jones
TE: OJH, Herndon, Gesicki
2020: 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 4 (Rebuild): 12-team Superflex 28-man 3WR PPR:
QB: Watson, Garopollo, Haskins
RB: Mixon, Jacobs, Mack, Hill
WR: Hill, Lockett, Chark, Boykin, McLaurin, Cobb, D. Thomas
TE: OJH, Rudolph, Moreau
2020: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: POLL: Major Rebuild Trade

Postby Bay City Original » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:03 pm

I voted OBJ but just because I think you can get one more piece in the trade... feels like light. I’d mAke the deal if I could get another 2nd or equal value player.


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