Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

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Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby Mr. Wizard » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:51 pm

1QB for now, transitioning to add a superflex in 2021. Price/contract differences are fairly negligible, though Lamar is so cheap that it's basically nothing. Had another topic along these lines a few days ago but he's still at it and now adding a bit, so wanted to cut to the chase of what he should be adding.

Tricky to evaluate with superflex on the horizon but not for a couple more seasons. I've never played superflex before, so I'm not sure how radically that will change the value of these two guys. What would you want, in addition to Lamar?
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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:53 pm

Jackson looks legit and is a top 4 QB asset. With transitioning to SF, I would need at the very least a 1st added to Jackson. I would still struggle to make that deal.

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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby Mr. Wizard » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:06 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:53 pm Jackson looks legit and is a top 4 QB asset. With transitioning to SF, I would need at the very least a 1st added to Jackson. I would still struggle to make that deal.
Thanks, that’s illuminating for me as a non-SF player — he’s a top 4 asset, yet the gap is vast enough that a 1st would be a struggle? My concern would mostly be Jackson’s longevity/durability.
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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby mmass » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:15 am

By the min of a 1st.... I prob need 2 first to make that move
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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:08 am

I'd want at least two early/mid 2020 1sts on top of Jackson to sell Mahomes in superflex.
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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:11 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:08 am I'd want at least two early/mid 2020 1sts on top of Jackson to sell Mahomes in superflex.
This or more.
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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby saw061600 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:14 am

I'd want a first more but there is no way I'd give even a first. Production difference between the 2 QBs isn't equal to the production I could likely buy with that first in another position.
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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:23 am

I would want at least a couple firsts but that personally doesn't even get it done for me with superflex coming. Jackson is nice, Jackson is also a better fantasy QB than a real life QB. Good for the games, but I just don't see him doing this for 7-8 years maybe im wrong. Mahomes will be around in 2040
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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby Mr. Wizard » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:31 am

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:23 am I would want at least a couple firsts but that personally doesn't even get it done for me with superflex coming. Jackson is nice, Jackson is also a better fantasy QB than a real life QB. Good for the games, but I just don't see him doing this for 7-8 years maybe im wrong. Mahomes will be around in 2040
Valid point.

I’ll be new to superflex and I’m only three years into dynasty (having never had an elite QB in that time) so I’m still learning how the community evaluates there. Thanks all!
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1QB, 2HB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SFX **Years under contract in parentheses. Two extensions and one franchise tag available per year.**

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HB: Saquon (3), Gibbs (4), Henry (1), Hunt (1), Mattison (1)
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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby Samhain34 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:38 am

Piling on: I'd need two firsts to make that move and still probably wouldn't pay it. If I'm the Lamar owner, there's no way I'm paying that and I'm stocking young QB talent and making my run right now, while my running QB is still in one piece.

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Re: Lamar owner wants Mahomes -- what should he add?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:58 am

Blackstar110 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:31 am I’ll be new to superflex and I’m only three years into dynasty (having never had an elite QB in that time) so I’m still learning how the community evaluates there. Thanks all!
Think about how much you would want to sell Barkley or McCaffrey in 1QB. That's the kind of ridiculous overpay you should be getting to sell Mahomes in superflex/2QB.
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