Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

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Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby kmbryant09 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:40 pm

I'm the title favorite with Kelce at Tight End, thinking about trading him now before it's too late. Don't get me wrong, he's still the best real-life and fantasy Tight End in the league, but he's 30 years old and doesn't look as explosive as he did a few years ago.

Thinking about approaching the Engram owner, who is also competing, for an Engram + for Kelce.

So what should I be asking for?
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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:36 pm

Don’t expect much, but go ahead and ask for a 2020 First
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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:47 pm

I'd try Kelce for Engram + 1st. If/when that gets rejected, I'd counter with Kelce + 2nd for Engram + 1st.
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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:55 pm

I’d be surprised if you can get more than a 2nd based off age. I’d consider anything more a win.
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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby kmbryant09 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:02 pm

What about asking for Engram + Kirk?
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: K. Murray, B. Mayfield, K. Cousins
RB: D Johnson, M. Mack, P. Lindsay, C. Edmonds, M. Walton, G. Bernard, D. Thompson, T. Pollard, M. Davis, R. Bonnafan
WR: O. Beckham Jr., K. Allen, C. Godwin, A. Robinson, C. Kirk, D. Johnson, A. Wilson, R. Higgins, D. Robinson
TE: E. Engram, D. Waller, I. Smith Jr.

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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:05 pm

kmbryant09 wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:02 pm
What about asking for Engram + Kirk?
That would be a great return. As mentioned above, if you go the pick route, start with a 1st. You never know.
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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby hoos89 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:49 pm

kmbryant09 wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:02 pm
What about asking for Engram + Kirk?
That seems a bit ambitious to me, but maybe worth asking given that Kirk has been hurt for a couple weeks?
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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby Mjvb5 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:54 am

Doubt he'd add anything tbh
12 team ppr 1qb 2rb 2wt 1te 1 flex 2lb 2db 2dl 1dflex
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A. Brown, Dez, TY Hilton,Crabtree, K. Aiken
D. Free, Howard, Ingram, demarco, AP, Powell
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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby badbuddah » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:56 am

Pretty close to even but Kelce is still the best piece so maybe a mid to late 2nd.
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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby Samhain34 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:01 am

COUNTERPOINT: Honestly, if I'm the Engram owner, I'm not adding anything. I'm telling YOU to add. And even then, I probably don't do it. If you want this deal, however, you better get this trade in before Engram immolates AZ, otherwise, he'll be close to untouchable.

Engram is a beast and the Giants love to throw to the TE.
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Re: Difference between T. Kelce and E. Engram

Postby Goddard » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:04 am

I also doubt you can get much on top, even if I think you should. You can make some of those offers, but I'd probably just hold Kelce if you can't get something decent added to Engram.


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