Which side in trade

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Which Side

Hunter + Early 2020 2nd
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Mid 2020 1st
4
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Which side in trade

Postby Hankybro21 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:00 pm

Team 2, in rebuild.

In talks with Hunter owner. He would move Hunter + 2020 2nd for a mid 2020 1st.

His 2nd will likely be anywhere from 11 to 13 overall. So I'd prolly move the 1.05 or so for Hunter + #11-13 overall. Thoughts?
Team 1 (champs '18, ‘19, ’20)
10 TM PPR; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*2, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar, Josh Allen, Goff
WR: Nuk, MT, Adams, Godwin, DJM, Reagor, Mooney, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Preston, Anthony Miller, Bowden
RB: Barkley, Swift, Mixon, Rojo, MG III, Cohen, Mack, Kelley, Mattison, Boston, KJ, Wilson
TE: Kelce, Hunter
K: Sanders
Def: Miami, Arizona
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Team 2 (7-6, 4th place)
10 TM PPR SF; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Defense*1, IDP*3

QB: Russell, Watson, Burrow
WR: MT, Nuk, Godwin, DK, DJM, Parris, Kirk, AB, Preston, Lamb, Mooney, Gabriel Davis
RB: Jacobs, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins
TE: Goedert, HH, Hock
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt; KC
IDP: Donald, Humphrey, Adams
2021: 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.03, 2.04

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby badbuddah » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:02 pm

Great value if you can make the deal. Hunter Henry when healthy could be a top 3 TE with how often SD uses Tight Ends.
12 Team UNLIMITED Keeper / 23 Roster 1.0-PPR: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF 2 IR - 6th Year

QB: L. Jackson, Drew Lock, Garoppolo
RB: D. Cook, Aaron Jones, N. Chubb, L. Murray, A. Mattison, J. Williams, L. Bowden, K. Vaughn
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, D. Adams, J. Shuster, K. Golladay, A. Jeffery, C. Kirk, D. Samuel
TE: Z. Ertz, O.J. Howard, J. Sternberger
K: M. Crosby
DEF: San Francisco

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby Matt1975 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:07 pm

I would want the Hunter side

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:15 pm

Solid price for Henry.

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby Hankybro21 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:17 pm

badbuddah wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:02 pm
Great value if you can make the deal. Hunter Henry when healthy could be a top 3 TE with how often SD uses Tight Ends.
I agree i full...the only hang-up is his injury history, and the fact that I have Hock.

So the way we have it structured is that my 1st and his 2nd would be conditional at the end of season. I have six 1st's and he has two 2nd's. He would get the highest 1st in the 1.05+ range (I would keep my top 4 firsts, which will very likely be 1.01 through 1.04) and I would get his highest 2nd (prolly 2.01 to 2.03).

So, the likely worst outcome is that I still have 5 1sts (top 4, plus a mid) and I move one mid first back from 1.05 to 2.03 (8 spots) and get Hunter for my troubles.
Team 1 (champs '18, ‘19, ’20)
10 TM PPR; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*2, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar, Josh Allen, Goff
WR: Nuk, MT, Adams, Godwin, DJM, Reagor, Mooney, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Preston, Anthony Miller, Bowden
RB: Barkley, Swift, Mixon, Rojo, MG III, Cohen, Mack, Kelley, Mattison, Boston, KJ, Wilson
TE: Kelce, Hunter
K: Sanders
Def: Miami, Arizona
IR:

Team 2 (7-6, 4th place)
10 TM PPR SF; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Defense*1, IDP*3

QB: Russell, Watson, Burrow
WR: MT, Nuk, Godwin, DK, DJM, Parris, Kirk, AB, Preston, Lamb, Mooney, Gabriel Davis
RB: Jacobs, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins
TE: Goedert, HH, Hock
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt; KC
IDP: Donald, Humphrey, Adams
2021: 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.03, 2.04

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby repkllrs » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:19 pm

Hunter Henry’s nickname should be breakable. I don’t want to buy him.
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Re: Which side in trade

Postby badbuddah » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:20 pm

Hankybro21 wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:17 pm
badbuddah wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:02 pm
Great value if you can make the deal. Hunter Henry when healthy could be a top 3 TE with how often SD uses Tight Ends.
I agree i full...the only hang-up is his injury history, and the fact that I have Hock.

So the way we have it structured is that my 1st and his 2nd would be conditional at the end of season. I have six 1st's and he has two 2nd's. He would get the highest 1st in the 1.05+ range (I would keep my top 4 firsts, which will very likely be 1.01 through 1.04) and I would get his highest 2nd (prolly 2.01 to 2.03).

So, the likely worst outcome is that I still have 5 1sts (top 4, plus a mid) and I move one mid first back from 1.05 to 2.03 (8 spots) and get Hunter for my troubles.
Imo this only solidifies me wanting Henry here. I think what it costs you is minimal, and if he gets hurt again and can't play, it doesn't sink you. If he becomes the next Kittle, you just made out like a bandit.
12 Team UNLIMITED Keeper / 23 Roster 1.0-PPR: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF 2 IR - 6th Year

QB: L. Jackson, Drew Lock, Garoppolo
RB: D. Cook, Aaron Jones, N. Chubb, L. Murray, A. Mattison, J. Williams, L. Bowden, K. Vaughn
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, D. Adams, J. Shuster, K. Golladay, A. Jeffery, C. Kirk, D. Samuel
TE: Z. Ertz, O.J. Howard, J. Sternberger
K: M. Crosby
DEF: San Francisco

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:21 pm

Hunter side in value but I prefer to steer clear and would keep the 1st
5-1 TEAM 1 - 10 team 1PPR (SF in 2021) | 2017 & 2019 League Champ :dance:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/4FLEX - 1/2/2/2/3/4/4
QB: Wilson - Wentz - Tua - Hurts - Eason
RB: Zeke - Mixon - Sanders - Davis - Pollard - Hill - Barkley(IR) - Coleman(IR)
WR: MThom - Godwin - DJM - Hollywood - Jefferson - Higgins - Pittman - Edwards - Mims - Scott Miller - Ross - Campbell(IR)
TE: Engram - Hock - Njoku

2-4TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Wentz - Brees - Rivers
RB: CMC - Sanders - JT - Gaskin - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Bowden - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR: JuJu - Hill - PWill - Lazard - Samuel - Scotty - MVS - Van Jefferson - Enunwa - Washington - Trent Taylor -
TE: Hooper - Henry - Hurst - Gronk - Warring

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:26 pm

no way in hell and my god these responses are appalling to me lol.

the short sighted nature of people on this forum and quick reactions to big games is alarming as hell.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
J Allen , Herbert, Rivers
Kamara, B Hill, Akers,McNichols, Dillon, Cohen, McCoy
K Allen, Hopkins,McLaurin, AROB M Williams,MVS
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Teddy B, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Burkhead, Mostert, wilson jr
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans,AROB, C Davis, Watkins, Edleman, Higgins
Ertz, Gronk, Fant, everett, albert o


team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Baker, Wentz, Foles, K Allen
Kamara, Henry, Chubb, Bell, Murray, Coleman
M Thomas, K Allen, M Evans, JuJu, Cooper, Watkins
Hurst, Gronk, Ebron, Everett
Payne/Onyemata
Campbell, Ogbah, J Allen, Clowney, Armstead
Martinez, J Smith, Z Smith, Jack, Judon, C Jones (IR)
Alexander, Dean, Ward
Edmonds, Harris, Joseph, Delpit (IR)

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:28 pm

you have hock and stern at TE and are a rebuild, you are good at te. no need to buy a guy who is unavailable often and has a handful of pretty good games and jeopardize giving up a major piece to your build. you will feel silly as hell if you have 3 solid te next year and none stand out and then your pick end up being 1.04 and you miss on a stud.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
J Allen , Herbert, Rivers
Kamara, B Hill, Akers,McNichols, Dillon, Cohen, McCoy
K Allen, Hopkins,McLaurin, AROB M Williams,MVS
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Teddy B, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Burkhead, Mostert, wilson jr
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans,AROB, C Davis, Watkins, Edleman, Higgins
Ertz, Gronk, Fant, everett, albert o


team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Baker, Wentz, Foles, K Allen
Kamara, Henry, Chubb, Bell, Murray, Coleman
M Thomas, K Allen, M Evans, JuJu, Cooper, Watkins
Hurst, Gronk, Ebron, Everett
Payne/Onyemata
Campbell, Ogbah, J Allen, Clowney, Armstead
Martinez, J Smith, Z Smith, Jack, Judon, C Jones (IR)
Alexander, Dean, Ward
Edmonds, Harris, Joseph, Delpit (IR)

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby metalmat » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:30 pm

So you are essentially just moving back a bit in the rookie draft and getting a potentially great TE? Give me Henry and the pick all day.
14 Tm ppr
QB Wentz, Carr, Minshew
RB Kamara, Mixon, David Johnson, Coleman, McKinnon, Scott, Dallas
WR Hopkins, Julio, ARob, Fitz, J.Brown, JJaw, Boykin,
TE Ertz, Knox, Jarwin

12 Tm .5 ppr
QB Brees, Stafford, Hurts, Rosen
RB Zeke, Fournette, White, Mostert, Coleman, McKissic, Scott, Pollard, Dallas, Perine, Calais
WR Amari, Tyreek, KA, Chark, GTate, Stills, Renfrow, ATate, DPJ
TE Fant, Knox, Doyle

12 Tm SF, TE+, ppr
QB Ryan, Winston, Rudolph, Minshew, Tua
RB Gordon, Carson, Guice, Hunt, Duke, McKissic, Dillon
WR Boyd, RobbyA, Parker, Davis, Wilson, Tre'Quan, Miller, Ruggs, Jefferson, Hamler
TE Hooper, Doyle, Burton, Jarwin, K.Smith, Keene

14 Tm ppr
QB Stafford, Bridgewater, Newton
RB Justice, Hines, Ito, Dallas
WR Tyreek, C.Ridley, Tre'Quan, Hardman, Washington, Aiyuk, A.Tate, Harmon, Renfrow, Proche, DPJ
TE Kittle, Sternberger

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby Hankybro21 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:38 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:28 pm
you have hock and stern at TE and are a rebuild, you are good at te. no need to buy a guy who is unavailable often and has a handful of pretty good games and jeopardize giving up a major piece to your build. you will feel silly as hell if you have 3 solid te next year and none stand out and then your pick end up being 1.04 and you miss on a stud.
I hear you on the TE and injury issues, which is why I was posting here. Just to clarify though, the pick he will get will be 1.05 at best. While I know projecting picks is often challenging, the 6 firsts that I currently have are the six worst teams in the league and the top 4 are starting to pull away. It's very likely that I will have picks 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, and 1.04, and I told them that they are off limits. The highest he will get would be 1.05, and I would then get his best 2nd (2.01 to 2.03). Just wanted to clarify in case that changes your thoughts any (or not...appreciated ether way!)
Team 1 (champs '18, ‘19, ’20)
10 TM PPR; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*2, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar, Josh Allen, Goff
WR: Nuk, MT, Adams, Godwin, DJM, Reagor, Mooney, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Preston, Anthony Miller, Bowden
RB: Barkley, Swift, Mixon, Rojo, MG III, Cohen, Mack, Kelley, Mattison, Boston, KJ, Wilson
TE: Kelce, Hunter
K: Sanders
Def: Miami, Arizona
IR:

Team 2 (7-6, 4th place)
10 TM PPR SF; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Defense*1, IDP*3

QB: Russell, Watson, Burrow
WR: MT, Nuk, Godwin, DK, DJM, Parris, Kirk, AB, Preston, Lamb, Mooney, Gabriel Davis
RB: Jacobs, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins
TE: Goedert, HH, Hock
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt; KC
IDP: Donald, Humphrey, Adams
2021: 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.03, 2.04

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby Hankybro21 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:38 pm

metalmat wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:30 pm
So you are essentially just moving back a bit in the rookie draft and getting a potentially great TE? Give me Henry and the pick all day.
Yes I'm essentially moving back 8 spots (at worst, from 1.05 to 2.03) and getting Hunter to do so.
Team 1 (champs '18, ‘19, ’20)
10 TM PPR; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*2, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar, Josh Allen, Goff
WR: Nuk, MT, Adams, Godwin, DJM, Reagor, Mooney, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Preston, Anthony Miller, Bowden
RB: Barkley, Swift, Mixon, Rojo, MG III, Cohen, Mack, Kelley, Mattison, Boston, KJ, Wilson
TE: Kelce, Hunter
K: Sanders
Def: Miami, Arizona
IR:

Team 2 (7-6, 4th place)
10 TM PPR SF; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Defense*1, IDP*3

QB: Russell, Watson, Burrow
WR: MT, Nuk, Godwin, DK, DJM, Parris, Kirk, AB, Preston, Lamb, Mooney, Gabriel Davis
RB: Jacobs, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins
TE: Goedert, HH, Hock
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt; KC
IDP: Donald, Humphrey, Adams
2021: 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.03, 2.04

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Re: Which side in trade

Postby Goddard » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:56 pm

The value is probably on the Hunter side right now, but I think a mid 1st during the offseason would carry more weight and will get you a better asset in a trade.


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