Winston vs Darnold

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Winston vs Darnold

Postby Ghost Of Kevin White » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:23 pm

Would you give up Winston for Darnold? And would this be a straight forward trade across or add picks? Thanks.
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QB: P. Mahomes, K. Allen
RB: S. Barkley, E. Elliott, D. Thompson, J. Samuels, T. Pollard, P. Laird
WR: O. Beckham, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, T. McLaurin, P. Williams[IR], D. Slayton, Z. Pascal, A. Miller
TE: T. Hockenson [IR], C. Herndon [IR], I. Thomas, J. Smith
K: M. Badgley
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LB: D. Bush, J. Davis, D.Payne, J. Burgess
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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby RB6 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:24 pm

Long term, I want Darnold here.
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10 Team Devy SF .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Watson, Wilson, Rudolph, Tannehill, Teddy, K. Allen, Lock
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Deebo, Hamilton, Pascal
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Wilkins
TE: Andrews, J. Smith
Devy: Tua, Reagor, Akers

Team 2
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Garoppolo, Darnold
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, G. Tate, A. Miller, Pascal, A. Tate, Hamilton, Gage, Patrick, ESB
RB: Zeke, Jacobs, Carson, Darwin, Hilliard, Armstead, De. Washington, Ollison, T. Montgomery
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Dissly, Moreau

Team 3
12 Team SF PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Rodgers, Carr, Hill, Mullens, Rypien
RB: Chubb, Fournette, KJ, D. Freeman, Hunt, C. Thompson, Hilliard, Laird, Nall
WR: Allen, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, G. Tate, Crowder, Hamilton, A. Tate, Pascal
TE: Andrews, Thomas, Graham

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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby abloom » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:25 pm

This is easily Darnold imo. Younger, more secure QB future (Jets are gonna be keeping him around for a while, not sure about TB), and I think more talented (atleast in not throwing ints)
Team #1 (9-4) rank: 2/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Scarbrough, Peterson, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,4,4,5,5,7
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Team #2 (9-4) rank: 3/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, AP, J Hill, B Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (10-3) rank 1/10 (In Semifinals)
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, Parker
TE: Henry, Hooper
K: Lutz
DST: BAL

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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:30 pm

Darnold for me as well. Could be a straight up deal since Darnold has missed time and and has limited stats to look at.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby Paul717 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:04 pm

Tough call. Quoting an article:

"With regards to contracts, Winston and Marcus Mariota are in an unprecedented situation. Before this year, no first-round quarterback drafted under the 2011 CBA had played on his fifth-year option."

So Winston was good enough to have his 5th year option picked up...but not good enough to be extended early like many franchise QBs. There is a risk, albeit perhaps small, that he plays on a new team next year and has to learn a new system. There's risk there.

I'm with others here and would want Darnold. But I'll admit my risk averse bias (having been burned by holding AB for too long, for example). Winston has a very high ceiling but with a cloudier future than anyone would have expected at this point in his career.
"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Deshaun Watson, Tyrod Taylor
RB: Aaron Jones, Peyton Barber, DeAndre Washington, Jalen Richard, Trayveon Williams, Darrel Williams, Dare Ogunbowale, J.D. McKissic
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jamison Crowder, Emmanuel Sanders, A.J. Brown, James Washington, Zach Pascal, DaeSean Hamilton, Paul Richardson, Jakobi Meyers, Kendrick Bourne, Geronimo Allison, Antonio Brown :(
TE: T.J. Hockenson
K: Don't have one during the "offseason", my team missed playoffs in 2019 :(
Team DST: Lions

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2020: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd (Shrimp), 3rd (Harlem Hailmakers), 4th (Cookie Monsters), 5th (Smooth Doctors), 5th (Shrimp), 8th

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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby Goddard » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:46 pm

Darnold. I'm not convinced Winston is a starting QB this time next year.

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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:50 pm

I’d lean darnold here
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1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1FLEX - 1.01/1.02/2.01/3/4/4/5
QB: Brady - Carr - Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Samuels - Ware - Bo - Ito - Guice(IR)
WR: Nuk - Adams - TY - DJ - Hollywood - Campbell - Pascal - JJAW - Miller - Hurd - Gage
TE: Engram - Akins - Josh Hill - Kaden Smith - Stern - Hock(IR)

4-9 - 9/10|DYNASTY TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby abloom » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:23 pm

Goddard wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:46 pm
Darnold. I'm not convinced Winston is a starting QB this time next year.
I'm pretty sure he could start somewhere. Miami, Washington (depending on Haskins development), Denver, cinci (depending on QB development), Tenn. Basically I could see all these teams just swapping their QBs for 1-2 year prove it/bridge deals.
Team #1 (9-4) rank: 2/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Scarbrough, Peterson, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,4,4,5,5,7
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Team #2 (9-4) rank: 3/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, AP, J Hill, B Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (10-3) rank 1/10 (In Semifinals)
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, Parker
TE: Henry, Hooper
K: Lutz
DST: BAL


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