Winston vs Darnold

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Winston vs Darnold

Postby Ghost Of Kevin White » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:23 pm

Would you give up Winston for Darnold? And would this be a straight forward trade across or add picks? Thanks.
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RB: S. Barkley, E. Elliott, M. Walton, J. Samuels, T. Pollard
WR: O. Beckham, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, T. McLaurin, P. Williams, D. Slayton, Z. Pascal
TE: T. Hockenson, C. Herndon, D. Knox
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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby RB6 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:24 pm

Long term, I want Darnold here.
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WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Pettis, Deebo, Hamilton, JJAW, D. Smith
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Wilkins
TE: Andrews, Thomas
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QB: Watson, Garoppolo, Darnold
WR: Nuk, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, G. Tate, Hamilton, A. Tate, Duke, Pascal, Gage, ESB
RB: Zeke, Carson, Jacobs, Darwin, Hilliard, Ty, Armstead, De. Washington, Ollison
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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby abloom » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:25 pm

This is easily Darnold imo. Younger, more secure QB future (Jets are gonna be keeping him around for a while, not sure about TB), and I think more talented (atleast in not throwing ints)
Team #1 (8-2) rank: 1/12
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Peterson, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel, Couttee, Beasly
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,4,4,5,5,7
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Team #2 (7-3) rank: 3/12
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, AP, J Hill, B Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (7-3) rank 1/10
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida, Murray
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, McLaurin
TE: Henry
K: Lutz
DST: BAL

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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:30 pm

Darnold for me as well. Could be a straight up deal since Darnold has missed time and and has limited stats to look at.
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WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby Paul717 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:04 pm

Tough call. Quoting an article:

"With regards to contracts, Winston and Marcus Mariota are in an unprecedented situation. Before this year, no first-round quarterback drafted under the 2011 CBA had played on his fifth-year option."

So Winston was good enough to have his 5th year option picked up...but not good enough to be extended early like many franchise QBs. There is a risk, albeit perhaps small, that he plays on a new team next year and has to learn a new system. There's risk there.

I'm with others here and would want Darnold. But I'll admit my risk averse bias (having been burned by holding AB for too long, for example). Winston has a very high ceiling but with a cloudier future than anyone would have expected at this point in his career.
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WR: Calvin Ridley, Jamison Crowder, Emmanuel Sanders, A.J. Brown, Geronimo Allison, James Washington, DaeSean Hamilton, Paul Richardson, Riley Ridley, Zach Pascal, Keelan Doss, Antonio Brown :(
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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby Goddard » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:46 pm

Darnold. I'm not convinced Winston is a starting QB this time next year.

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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:50 pm

I’d lean darnold here
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RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Guice - Davis - Walton - Bonbon - Gaskin Ito(IR)
WR: Nuk - Adams - TY - DJ - Hollywood - Campbell - Pascal - JJAW - Miller - Erickson - Keke - Gage - Dez
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Re: Winston vs Darnold

Postby abloom » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:23 pm

Goddard wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:46 pm
Darnold. I'm not convinced Winston is a starting QB this time next year.
I'm pretty sure he could start somewhere. Miami, Washington (depending on Haskins development), Denver, cinci (depending on QB development), Tenn. Basically I could see all these teams just swapping their QBs for 1-2 year prove it/bridge deals.
Team #1 (8-2) rank: 1/12
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Peterson, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel, Couttee, Beasly
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,4,4,5,5,7
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Team #2 (7-3) rank: 3/12
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, AP, J Hill, B Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (7-3) rank 1/10
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida, Murray
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, McLaurin
TE: Henry
K: Lutz
DST: BAL


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