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Stafford SF

Postby JamboMac » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:30 am

Team 3 in Sig.

Just been offer a trade..

Give
Stafford

Get
Coleman
Diggs

I feel like it's a no brainer, and in a better QB situation, I wouldn't even hesitate. But it will leave me with Jimmy G and Keenum as my only QBs, and it's just a matter of time until Keenum is benched by the looks of it. Jimmy already had his bye week, so it would just be a case of hoping he doesn't get hurt. All of the backups and backups backups are on squads, so there isn't a single viable QB in waivers, either.

Would you do it?
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby JamboMac » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:31 am

Baring in mind, I can start up to 6 RBs and 6 WRs..
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:44 am

In SF, no I would hold what you have. Based on your other QB options, I don't think this is a good trade for your team.

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby JamboMac » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:46 am

I'm 90% sure I can flip either Diggs or Coleman and end up with a younger QB as well, though. So I could essentially be trading Stafford for Coleman+Haskins/J.Allen - or slightly better QB with Diggs involved.. would you do it then?
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby Mtt33 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:00 am

I easily make that trade, yes

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:03 am

Red9Devil wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:46 am I'm 90% sure I can flip either Diggs or Coleman and end up with a younger QB as well, though. So I could essentially be trading Stafford for Coleman+Haskins/J.Allen - or slightly better QB with Diggs involved.. would you do it then?
This is easily Stafford. And Haskins and J. Allen are not in the same league. Haskins isn't even a starter yet. I doubt you are getting Allen.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby JamboMac » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:50 am

FantasyFoosball wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:03 am
Red9Devil wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:46 am I'm 90% sure I can flip either Diggs or Coleman and end up with a younger QB as well, though. So I could essentially be trading Stafford for Coleman+Haskins/J.Allen - or slightly better QB with Diggs involved.. would you do it then?
This is easily Stafford. And Haskins and J. Allen are not in the same league. Haskins isn't even a starter yet. I doubt you are getting Allen.
You doubt I'm getting Allen for Diggs? The guy has 9 QBs, and 4 of them are sat on the bench. The others in a Taxi squad. I would take Haskins over Stafford all day in this situation.

It's worth pointing out I have someone else's 1st round pick, and it's looking like the 1.01/1.02 at this point. So I could easily have my pick of QBs from the draft if I really wanted to.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:03 am

Red9Devil wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:50 am
FantasyFoosball wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:03 am
Red9Devil wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:46 am I'm 90% sure I can flip either Diggs or Coleman and end up with a younger QB as well, though. So I could essentially be trading Stafford for Coleman+Haskins/J.Allen - or slightly better QB with Diggs involved.. would you do it then?
This is easily Stafford. And Haskins and J. Allen are not in the same league. Haskins isn't even a starter yet. I doubt you are getting Allen.
You doubt I'm getting Allen for Diggs? The guy has 9 QBs, and 4 of them are sat on the bench. The others in a Taxi squad. I would take Haskins over Stafford all day in this situation.

It's worth pointing out I have someone else's 1st round pick, and it's looking like the 1.01/1.02 at this point. So I could easily have my pick of QBs from the draft if I really wanted to.
If you think you can get Allen for Diggs, good luck to you. If you would rather have Haskins than Stafford, then good luck to you again.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby Goddard » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:22 am

If you can get Josh Allen, go for it, but I also doubt it. Also, Stafford >>> Haskins.

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby jomaed » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:37 am

Wow, what a thread. You lost me at Haskins > Stafford.

Anyways, I like the value on the Diggs side, but you cant really afford to only have Keenum as your QB2.

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby JamboMac » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:40 am

I'm not really sure why you're all hating on Haskins. Before this season Stafford looked almost done...another bad season and he would be out, plus he is 31. Great for yearly redraft leagues, but Haskins is considered SF royalty in almost every aspect from everything I've seen.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby JamboMac » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:46 am

I have just been offered Goff for JuJu. So probably going to take that and lose the worry of JuJu eventually coming good. Even though I think he will. So it's essentially Stafford+JuJu for Goff+Coleman+Diggs. Can't argue with that, really.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby Dibbles » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:17 am

Red9Devil wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:40 am Before this season Stafford looked almost done...another bad season and he would be out, plus he is 31.
This is just flat out wrong. Stafford has been a consistent QB1 for the vast majority of his career, played significantly injured last season, always plays hurt and continues to quietly grind out QB1 production year in and year out. He's probably one of the most underrated QB's out there. His historical finishes every year in a standard 4-pt passing TD league:

2011: #4
2012: #9
2013: #7
2014: #15
2015: #8
2016: #6
2017: #5
2018: #18 (played seriously injured for a good majority of the season)
2019: currently #17, but all 16 guys in front of him have not had a Bye week yet, while Stafford had a week 4 Bye. He's only 12 points outside of the top 10, which would easily put him top 10 this year if all were normalized for Bye weeks.

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:24 am

Red9Devil wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:40 am I'm not really sure why you're all hating on Haskins. Before this season Stafford looked almost done...another bad season and he would be out, plus he is 31. Great for yearly redraft leagues, but Haskins is considered SF royalty in almost every aspect from everything I've seen.
Lol, this thread just keeps going downhill, fast. Good luck to you.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Stafford SF

Postby JamboMac » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:28 am

FantasyFoosball wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:24 am
Red9Devil wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:40 am I'm not really sure why you're all hating on Haskins. Before this season Stafford looked almost done...another bad season and he would be out, plus he is 31. Great for yearly redraft leagues, but Haskins is considered SF royalty in almost every aspect from everything I've seen.
Lol, this thread just keeps going downhill, fast. Good luck to you.
This thread won't really be relevant for another 2/3 years, but I'll be happy to revisit.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,


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