Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

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Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby RoyalPalmer » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:53 pm

Year one of a startup, team two in the signature. Injuries and the Browns have ruined my season, but I was hoping to have a somewhat competitive team that could sell some older pieces for stock in this draft anyways.

Got an offer where I would send N'Keal Harry and Terry McLaurin for Amari Cooper. I feel like this is pretty decent value, but could easily be selling two Coops for one. I do feel like Amari is in the age range I'm looking to add and clearly having so many 24 and younger players has helped me achieve my 1-5 record....
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
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QB: Wentz, Garoppolo, Tannehill, Mariota, Haskins, Taysom Hill
RB: McCafrey, D. Henry, Swift, Ingram, Royce Freeman, Gore
WR: Amari Cooper, Golladay, DJ Chark, Robert Woods, Higgins, Fitz, Steve Sims, David Mooney, David Moore
TE Hopper, Jonnu Smith, Higbee, Logan Thomas
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12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

QB: Mayfield, Darnold, Burrow
RB: Founette, Chris Carson, Dobbins, Justin Jackson, Jordan Howard
WR: OBJ, AJ Green, Robert Woods, Diontae Johnson, Nkeal Harry, A. Miller, J. Washington, Paris Campbell, Reagor, Aiyuk, D. Robinson, Van Jefferson, H. Butler, Jalen Hurd
TE: Austin Hooper, TJ Hockson, Fant

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby JoshuaGordon_9 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:23 am

I would go Cooper at this point. Pretty easily. He's had his ups and downs, but with the lack of production of other top WRs (OBJ, JuJu, Julios getting older, Allen is up and down, Evans - kindof) he is approaching that high end WR1 range again. Harry could be good, but he's got a long way to go, and with the uncertainty of Brady every year, it's concerning, and hard to project high end WR1 status at this point. Terry is a decent option, but I've been fooled one too many times on Washington WRs to invest in him, or them at this price. I would easily accept Cooper for those two.
Team 1: 12T PPR SF
QB(1-2) Wilson, Teddy, Cousins
WR(3-5) Hill, Moore, Golladay, Deebo, Jefferson, M. Williams, Cooks, K. Cole
RB(2-4) Taylor, Dobbins, Hunt, Moss D. Evans
TE(1-2) Higbee, Akins
Picks: 1, 2x3, 3

Team 2: 12T PPR, 0.25 PPC, TE premium, SF
QB(1-2) Cousins, Ta. Hill, Brissett, Luck
WR(1-6) Metcalf, Kirk, Snead, Allison
RB(1-6) Zeke, Sanders, Gaskin, Pollard, Guice, Cohen, Dillon, Duke, McKissic
TE(1-6) Ebron, Higbee, McDonald, Akins
Picks: 2021: 1,2,3,4,5

Team 3: 10T PPR
QB(1) Cam, Cousins
WR(3-4) Sutton, McLauren, Kirk, Jefferson, Reagor, M. Williams, P. Williams, Lazard
RB(2-3) Chubb, Taylor, Gaskins, Pollard
TE(1-2) Andrews, Akins, I. Thomas
2021: 1x1, 3x3, 4x1

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby Samhain34 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:30 am

I'm passing on Cooper. I think he has a tendency to get erased when facing elite competition. Also, nobody has any idea what kind of situation he winds up in next year. McLaurin looks like a young stud and Harry is going to get to learn in an offense where he's going to face the third-best corner of each team.

I wouldn't give you McLaurin alone for Cooper, but that's based on how much I like each player and not market value.

Hard pass.

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:51 am

Cooper's contract situation is a major factor here for me too. Hard to say where he ends up next year with Gallup looking like a somewhat similar/cheaper option for Dallas. I would hold for now and see how Harry looks once he comes back over the next month of the season. It will take time to settle in but McLaurin looks really solid. Hold for now.

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:46 am

gonna be hard for me to move mclaurin anywhere. if you are bad you want as many good young wrs as you can get.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby Goddard » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:35 am

I'd move that for Cooper.

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:36 am

That’s tough. If you’re not competing I’d lean holding but it’s a crapshoot right now.
5-1 TEAM 1 - 10 team 1PPR (SF in 2021) | 2017 & 2019 League Champ :dance:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/4FLEX - 1/2/2/2/3/4/4
QB: Wilson - Wentz - Tua - Hurts - Eason
RB: Zeke - Mixon - Sanders - Davis - Pollard - Hill - Barkley(IR) - Coleman(IR)
WR: MThom - Godwin - DJM - Hollywood - Jefferson - Higgins - Pittman - Edwards - Mims - Scott Miller - Ross - Campbell(IR)
TE: Engram - Hock - Njoku

2-4TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Wentz - Brees - Rivers
RB: CMC - Sanders - JT - Gaskin - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Bowden - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR: JuJu - Hill - PWill - Lazard - Samuel - Scotty - MVS - Van Jefferson - Enunwa - Washington - Trent Taylor -
TE: Hooper - Henry - Hurst - Gronk - Warring

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby abloom » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:46 am

Half of me is saying it's a fair trade and the other half is saying take Cooper quickly. I think the correct move is to take Cooper here. Both Harry and McLaurin are more hype than talent right now. Certainly that can change if they produce/stay productive.
Dynasty Team #1: 5-2 (5th place)
2019 2nd Place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill, Bridgewater
R: CMC(IR),Taylor,Robinson,Fournette,Burkhead,Peterson
W: OBJ,Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Mooney,Lazard(IR),Cole
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Zurlein

2021 Picks: 1,4,5,6,7
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Dynasty Team #2: 7-0 (1st place)
2019 3rd place
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, K Allen, Trubisky
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Michel(IR), Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, Edwards, Fulgham, Harry, AB, Sutton(IR)
T: Kelce
K: Slye
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7
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DLF advice forum league: 1-6 (12th place)
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1,1,1,2,3,4

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby saw061600 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:54 am

Cooper, but I was a believer and telling people to buy before the trade to DAL.
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JimmyG Winston TruB Finley Mariota
Barkley Chubb Taylor DMonty RoJo Bell Sony RFreeman Hines Snell
Evans ARob Boyd Reagor Jeudy Aiyuk Dionte NHarry MWill JJAW Isabella AMiller
Kelce Andrews Jonnu Hooper
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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby Dibbles » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:57 am

Cooper easily for me.

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby Red9Devil » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:19 am

I love Terry, and N'Keal has a chance to show what he is worth in the next few weeks. I always find it hard to move rookies as they are difficult to value. I would find it hard taking that offer without seeing what Harry can do first. I like Cooper, but as has already been pointed out, he might not even be in Dallas next year.
12 team - 1QB, 0.5 PPR, TE 1PT PPR
QB-Wentz, Minshew
RB-C.Carson, D.Henry, Singletary, Guice, D.Freeman
WR-Hill, Kupp, Boyd, McLaurin, Hollywood, Fuller, Dede
TE-Irv Smith, Ebron, Olsen

12 team - 1QB, PPR (15 keeper league)
QB-Mahomes, Roethlisberger
RB-Bell, Conner, Taylor, Guice, Howard, Duke, MacFarland
WR-Allen, Parker, Deebo, Diontae, Harry, Jefferson
TE-Waller, Goedert

12 team - SF, 0.5PPR (RB), 0.25 PPC, PPR (WR),1.75 TE pre
QB - Goff, Tannehill, Minshew
RB - CMC, Sanders, Singletary, Conner, JRob
WR - Kupp, Allen, Ridley, Jeudy, Cooks, Beasley
TE - Gesicki, J.Smith, Hooper

12 team - SF, PPR, .025 PPC, 1.5 TE pre
QB - Lock, Allen, Stidham
RB - Jacobs, Dobbins, Vaughn, Guice, Jackson, B.Hill
WR - AJ Brown, Kupp, Jeudy, Diontae, Reagor, Mims, Shenault, JJAW
TE - Hockenson, Njoku, Trautman

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby RoyalPalmer » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:36 am

Thanks everyone. Luckily both the Cooper owner and myself are out of the country so it has bought me some time to hold.

This one is really tough for me too. Cooper still has pleanty of football left in him and who is to say he doesn't go to a team like the Ravens next year? As much as I would like to see Harry play, it could also kill the trade if he doesn't show much his first couple games.
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
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QB: Wentz, Garoppolo, Tannehill, Mariota, Haskins, Taysom Hill
RB: McCafrey, D. Henry, Swift, Ingram, Royce Freeman, Gore
WR: Amari Cooper, Golladay, DJ Chark, Robert Woods, Higgins, Fitz, Steve Sims, David Mooney, David Moore
TE Hopper, Jonnu Smith, Higbee, Logan Thomas
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12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

QB: Mayfield, Darnold, Burrow
RB: Founette, Chris Carson, Dobbins, Justin Jackson, Jordan Howard
WR: OBJ, AJ Green, Robert Woods, Diontae Johnson, Nkeal Harry, A. Miller, J. Washington, Paris Campbell, Reagor, Aiyuk, D. Robinson, Van Jefferson, H. Butler, Jalen Hurd
TE: Austin Hooper, TJ Hockson, Fant

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby imi814 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:58 am

i think i take cooper here. its risky but he has proven to be a stud.
10 team start 2QB salary cap .5 PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

QB: Wentz Lamar Mayfield teddy
RB: CMC Cook, Mattison, Kerryon, Brenda, DJ Dallas
WR: Hopkins Adams Ridley Kupp M. Williams Jeudy Reagor Jefferson Pittman AGG
TE: Ertz OJ Henry

2021 three #1’s two #2’s
2022 four #1’s two #2’s

Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)

QB: Allen Burrow Tua
RB: Kamara A jones Sanders Singletary Swift Dobbins J Jackson
WR: M Thomas Evans Moore Kupp Ridley Miller Reagor Ruggs Ward
TE: Andrews Hock

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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:16 am

I think this is pretty close.

I’m inclined to go Cooper tho.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Ryan, Tua
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Hunt, Swift, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, M Brown, D Johnson, Ruggs, Hilton, Pittman, G Davis, Ford, Wims
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Rivers, Cousins, Darnold, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/GORDON, Carson, Dobbins, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN/JULIO, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Alshon
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Re: Amari Cooper for Scary Harry

Postby M-Dub » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:12 pm

Cooper is off to a great start this year, but contrary to a couple of the comments posted in this thread, he is not a “proven stud” (at least not any more than McLaurin is) and has never finished as a WR1, let alone a high-end WR1, so this year’s production doesn’t represent a return to that status so much as finally living up to those lofty expectations. He seems to have finally become more consistent and reliable, which I’m sure is a relief for his owners, but I still don’t think I’d trade both of those talented young WRs for him. He just has too much history of weekly volatility and overall underperformance for me to buy into him as an elite, high-end WR1 yet.
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QB: Wilson, Big Ben
RB: CMC, Mixon, Lindsay, Hasty, B. Hill, Ozigbo
WR: Godwin, Golladay, Woods, Keenan, Crowder, Fulgham, Sammy, Tre’Quan
TE: Ertz, Irv Smith, L. Thomas
Taxi: Tua, McFarland, Joe Reed, Hurts

Put The Coke On My Dak
QB: Dak, Ryan, Baker
RB: CMC, Sanders, Mixon, Dobbins, Duke, Hasty
WR: Julio, Viska, Kirk, G. Tate, Tre’Quan, Isabella, Gage, Patrick
TE: Kelce, Olsen, Njoku, OJH
Taxi: Duvernay, Hurts, Cephus

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QB: Stafford $8/1, Big Ben $11/1, Herbert, $3/5
RB: CEH $26/5, Vaughn $9/4, Edwards $1/1
WR: Godwin $50/3, Hilton $43/1, Fuller $14/1, Crowder $21/1, Sanders $20/1, G. Tate $10/1, Mims $6/5, Edwards $3/5, Hamler $2/3, Patrick $1/1
TE: Hock $20/4, Trautman $2/5, L. Thomas $1/1, Jarwin $9/2


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