Josh Jacobs vs 2020 draft class
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:15 am
What do you think Josh Jacob's rookie ADP would be in the 2020 draft class?
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While that may be fair if we are talking about Josh Jacobs the prospect, I think Josh Jacobs the NFL rookie has done enough through 5 games to demand a higher ADP than that (he's averaging ~100 scrimmage yards and 0.8 TDs through 5 games with 4.9 YPC to boot).
Agreed, I was valuing Jacobs solely as a prospect as if he were coming in. Where we are today, no doubt early.hoos89 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:59 amWhile that may be fair if we are talking about Josh Jacobs the prospect, I think Josh Jacobs the NFL rookie has done enough through 5 games to demand a higher ADP than that (he's averaging ~100 scrimmage yards and 0.8 TDs through 5 games with 4.9 YPC to boot).
I get that next year's class is expected to be special (and I've been buying where I can), but I have a hard time imagining that Jacobs would fall below that many players in any one rookie class without some significant regression RoS.
I think Josh Jacobs should be considered a a top 10 dynasty RB as of today (I could see the argument as high as 7, a tier below Cook and Chubb), and I'd be surprised to see more than 2 or 3 2020 prospects going that high, as rookies typically only go that high if they're (a) a transcendent, generational talent (Barkley) or (b) an elite talent drafted into a great situation (Zeke).
I don't agree with changing the valuation. You see it year after year; People would have said that trading AB for the first overall in Barkley's year was a dumb decision. Then look what happened 5 games into that same year, instantly ranked above AB. When the talent is as good as this year I see no reason to balk at 1.05 for Jacobs getting declined -- I would decline it. Point being, i totally agree with the mid-late 1st valueGator Sens wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:49 pmAgreed, I was valuing Jacobs solely as a prospect as if he were coming in. Where we are today, no doubt early.hoos89 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:59 amWhile that may be fair if we are talking about Josh Jacobs the prospect, I think Josh Jacobs the NFL rookie has done enough through 5 games to demand a higher ADP than that (he's averaging ~100 scrimmage yards and 0.8 TDs through 5 games with 4.9 YPC to boot).
I get that next year's class is expected to be special (and I've been buying where I can), but I have a hard time imagining that Jacobs would fall below that many players in any one rookie class without some significant regression RoS.
I think Josh Jacobs should be considered a a top 10 dynasty RB as of today (I could see the argument as high as 7, a tier below Cook and Chubb), and I'd be surprised to see more than 2 or 3 2020 prospects going that high, as rookies typically only go that high if they're (a) a transcendent, generational talent (Barkley) or (b) an elite talent drafted into a great situation (Zeke).
I actually dont think people would have said that, or it would have been 50/50. Barkley was a generational talent, everyone knew this and saw this, AB was near the beginning of losing value in this community. As good as 2020 is hyped to be im not hearing anything about anyone being like Barkley, so i dont think this is a good comparison. Taylor is the only one who i would maybe take over Jacobs and even then id have a tough time doing it because Jacobs has been so good, in both fantasy and more importantly in real life.jonesmaster wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:15 pmI don't agree with changing the valuation. You see it year after year; People would have said that trading AB for the first overall in Barkley's year was a dumb decision. Then look what happened 5 games into that same year, instantly ranked above AB. When the talent is as good as this year I see no reason to balk at 1.05 for Jacobs getting declined -- I would decline it. Point being, i totally agree with the mid-late 1st valueGator Sens wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:49 pmAgreed, I was valuing Jacobs solely as a prospect as if he were coming in. Where we are today, no doubt early.hoos89 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:59 am
While that may be fair if we are talking about Josh Jacobs the prospect, I think Josh Jacobs the NFL rookie has done enough through 5 games to demand a higher ADP than that (he's averaging ~100 scrimmage yards and 0.8 TDs through 5 games with 4.9 YPC to boot).
I get that next year's class is expected to be special (and I've been buying where I can), but I have a hard time imagining that Jacobs would fall below that many players in any one rookie class without some significant regression RoS.
I think Josh Jacobs should be considered a a top 10 dynasty RB as of today (I could see the argument as high as 7, a tier below Cook and Chubb), and I'd be surprised to see more than 2 or 3 2020 prospects going that high, as rookies typically only go that high if they're (a) a transcendent, generational talent (Barkley) or (b) an elite talent drafted into a great situation (Zeke).
Bingo.Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:31 pmI actually dont think people would have said that, or it would have been 50/50. Barkley was a generational talent, everyone knew this and saw this, AB was near the beginning of losing value in this community. As good as 2020 is hyped to be im not hearing anything about anyone being like Barkley, so i dont think this is a good comparison. Taylor is the only one who i would maybe take over Jacobs and even then id have a tough time doing it because Jacobs has been so good, in both fantasy and more importantly in real life.jonesmaster wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:15 pmI don't agree with changing the valuation. You see it year after year; People would have said that trading AB for the first overall in Barkley's year was a dumb decision. Then look what happened 5 games into that same year, instantly ranked above AB. When the talent is as good as this year I see no reason to balk at 1.05 for Jacobs getting declined -- I would decline it. Point being, i totally agree with the mid-late 1st valueGator Sens wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:49 pm
Agreed, I was valuing Jacobs solely as a prospect as if he were coming in. Where we are today, no doubt early.
I'm not sure who those people are you are referencing, but Barkley was one of the highest sought after prospects in dynasty history.jonesmaster wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:15 pm
I don't agree with changing the valuation. You see it year after year; People would have said that trading AB for the first overall in Barkley's year was a dumb decision. Then look what happened 5 games into that same year, instantly ranked above AB. When the talent is as good as this year I see no reason to balk at 1.05 for Jacobs getting declined -- I would decline it. Point being, i totally agree with the mid-late 1st value