What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

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What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:09 pm

I’m looking to go from Allen to Hopkins, Team B in signature.

I originally offered my KA for his Nuk and a First.

He countered with my KA and a First, for his Nuk.

I countered with my KA and a couple small depth pieces (so basically Allen for Nuk)

How much should I add to Allen to get Nuk? Should I really even pursue this, if he wants more than a straight swap?
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:17 pm

I could see a 2nd or 3rd being added to the Allen side but only due to dynasty name value. Allen is worth more currently.
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:22 pm

I just offered Allen plus a pick upgrade (2020 3rd to a 2020 2nd, same team so a full round upgrade)

He rejected.

I think I would be willing to do a 2nd by itself just because I DO like Nuk more, long term, but it’s not worth a random First for me.
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby CD_23 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:26 pm

Gator Sens wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:17 pm I could see a 2nd or 3rd being added to the Allen side but only due to dynasty name value. Allen is worth more currently.

Agree with you here.
Good luck trying to get a Nuk owner to sell for any less than full retail.
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby Favrezilla » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:41 pm

I wouldn’t add much to my KA share... maybe a 2nd? Maybe.

Also if I was competing within a small window I would probably take Allen for Nuk straightup.
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby Mike from Canada » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:10 pm

A second sounds fair. Nuk>Allen for me.
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby sehon4 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:27 pm

CD_23 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:26 pm
Gator Sens wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:17 pm I could see a 2nd or 3rd being added to the Allen side but only due to dynasty name value. Allen is worth more currently.

Agree with you here.
Good luck trying to get a Nuk owner to sell for any less than full retail.
As a Nuk owner, i will tell you to take a hike.
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby RB6 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:53 pm

sehon4 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:27 pm
CD_23 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:26 pm
Gator Sens wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:17 pm I could see a 2nd or 3rd being added to the Allen side but only due to dynasty name value. Allen is worth more currently.

Agree with you here.
Good luck trying to get a Nuk owner to sell for any less than full retail.
As a Nuk owner, i will tell you to take a hike.
This. I love Allen but Hopkins is much more valuable imo. I’d need at least a first added, Allen’s start to this season be damned.
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:23 am

Got it done!

Sold Allen and a 2020 2nd from one of the best teams in the league

Got back Nuk and a 2020 4th
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby The Showstopper » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:42 am

So Nuk has a few bad games and you think He’s equal to Kennan Allen?? See how bad Allen for Nuk looks in about 5 weeks....
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby Mike from Canada » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:27 am

Good trade for you.
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:15 am

great deal
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Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
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Re: What is the gap between Hopkins and Allen? Is there one??

Postby abloom » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:53 am

great deal for you. I'd need a Mid 1st to go from Nuk to Allen (fortunately I have both of them in one league lol)
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