MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

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MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby UsualSuspects » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:53 pm

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Offer has been made by me.
Too little in return for MT?
Too much in return for MT?
1st round pick estimated 3-8
12 Team - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- 1pt ppr and return yds pts
Qb- Wentz, Cousins, Brady, Mullens
RB- Barkley, Breida, Penny, Hunt, Barber, Samuels, Hines, Love, Pollard, Mostert
WR- MT, Godwin, Edelman, Samuel, MVS, Crowder, Albert Wilson, Meyers, Pettis
TE- Hooper, Kelce, Andrews
K- Buttker
2020 pick- 3,3,4,4,4,5
2021 picks 1,1,2,3,4,5
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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby RB6 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:57 pm

Not enough.
Team 1
10 Team Devy SF .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Watson, Wilson, Tannehill, Lock, Grier
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Deebo, Pascal, S. Sims
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Boone, Gaskin
TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Higbee
Devy: Tua, Reagor, Akers

Team 2
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Garoppolo, Darnold
WR: Nuk, Adams, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, A. Miller, Perriman, Sims, Pascal, A. Tate, Hamilton, Gage, ESB
RB: Zeke, Kamara, Ingram, Mostert, Pollard, Darwin, Armstead, De. Washington, R. Anderson, Homer
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Dissly, Moreau

Team 3
12 Team SF PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Rodgers, Goff, Mullens, Stick
RB: Fournette, Mack, Singletary, Breida, Hines, D. Freeman, C. Thompson, Hilliard, Laird, Adams
WR: MT, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, G. Tate, Crowder, A. Tate, Pascal, Hamilton, ESB
TE: Andrews, Thomas

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby M-Dub » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:50 pm

I think it’s a fair return for Thomas, especially if the pick is closer to 1.03 than 1.08. I think it gives you better depth but makes your starting lineup worse. Godwin is pretty much a plug & play at this point, but good luck deciding which two to start out of Kirk, MVS, Samuel and Samuel. Seems like it could just lead to frustration. If I were you I’d be looking to move Ertz for an upgrade at RB.
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12-team PPR dynasty, 17-player roster, 4-player taxi
8 starters: 1 QB, 1-4 RB/WR/TE

QB: Wilson
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Lindsay, Guice, J. Hill, Miller, AP, Homer
WR: Godwin, Golladay, Keenan, Woods, Sammy, Tre’Quan, Watson
TE: Ertz, Rudolph, Shaheen
Taxi: Irv Smith, Dexter, Gaskin
2.10, 2.11, 3.11, 4.11

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Same settings as above except 18-player rosters

QB: Dak, Baker
RB: CMC, Sanders, DJ, Edwards, Laird
WR: Julio, ARob, Kirk, Lockett, Campbell, Tate, Tre’Quan
TE: Kelce, Goedert, Howard, Thomas, Oliver
Taxi: Gaskin, Isabella

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20-player rosters, $450 cap, 60 contract years, same starting requirements

QB: TBD
RB: Gurley $71/1, Guice $24/3, Hill $4/4, Dam. Williams (RFA)
WR: Godwin $50/3, Hilton $43/1, Hollywood $9/2
TE: Howard $20/3, Njoku (RFA)
1.02 $26, 1.09 $9, 2.09 $3, 2.13 $3, 3.02 $2, 3.09 $2 (rookies can be signed for 1-5 years)

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Samhain34 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:15 am

You need a running back; I'd be looking to dump draft picks/Brady/Ertz for a true RB1. The haul isn't bad, but you're already deep enough, which makes that first pick do or die.
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1-2 QB 1-6 RB 1-6 WR 1-6 TE PPR 12-team 24 on roster 2 IR spots.

QB: C. Wentz, M. Ryan, B. Mayfield, N. Foles
RB: M. Gordon, T. Cohen, M. Walton, P. Barber, D. Thompson, I. Smith
WR: M. Thomas, K. Allen, C. Sutton, D. Slayton, A. Isabella, D. Westbrook, David Moore, A. Wilson, Auden Tate, J, Kumerow, G. Jennings
TE: N Fant, H. Henry, T. Higbee
IR: Preston Williams, C. Coleman
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2020: 1,2
2021: 1,2,3

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:12 am

Solid return but I don't think this makes your team better or helps you overall. I would hold Thomas here unless you get more coming back.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Mecole Hardman, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 1.01, 1.03, 2.12, 3.11, 4.08, 5.08 2021: 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Goddard » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:32 am

Not close for MT.

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Slackalacker » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:36 am

That wouldn’t be enough for me to get MT
TEAM 1 - 10 team 1PPR (SF in 2021) | 2017 & 2019 League Champ :dance:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/4FLEX - 1.01/2.01/2.03/3.02/4.10/5.08
QB: Wilson - Brady - Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Guice - Samuels - Ito - Bo
WR: Nuk - Adams - Godwin - Hollywood - Campbell - Miller- Perriman - JJAW - Pascal - Hurd - Gage - Ward
TE: Engram - Hock - Olsen - Stern

TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Olsen - Lacosse - Jonnu

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby hoos89 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:59 am

Not enough. I'd want more confidence that the 2020 1st is closer to 3 than 8 and/or the 2020 2nd to be a 2020 1st before I considered.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Wentz, Minshew, Bridgewater, Haskins
Jacobs, Michel, D. Harris, Richard, Gaskin
DJ Moore, Sutton, Kupp, Kirk, Deebo, Dorsett, J. Gordon, Lee, Lazard
OJ Howard, Hockenson, Herndon
IR(2): Love, McKinnon
Taxi(4): MVS
2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 2.03, 2.11, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.03, 5.03

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Ryan, Bridgewater, Tannehill
Gurley, Barber, M. Brown, Miller, McKinnon, Ito, J. Jackson, R. Anderson, Richard, Edmunds
Thomas, Cooks, Watkins, Anderson, Beasley, Foster, Doctson, KeeSean, Lazard, Treadwell
Hooper, Herndon, Witten, Reed
2020 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.10, 2.11

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:05 am

I wouldn't move MT for that.
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2018 - Champions!
2019 - Champions!!
35-40 man rosters - $200 budget
Starting Positions:
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 TE
1 WR/TE
1 K
9 IDP positions
2 DL
2 LB
2 DB
3 DL/LB/DB

Current Roster:
QB - Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Chris Carson, Derrius Guice, Raheem Mostert, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR - DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Robert Woods, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Parris Campbell, Anthony Miller, John Ross
TE - George Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Mike Gesicki, Will Dissly, Dawson Knox
K - Matt Gay
DL - Joey Bosa, DeForest Buckner, Cameron Heyward, Robert Quinn
LB - Darius Leonard, Lavonte David, Dre Greenlaw, Matt Milano, Telvin Smith
DB - John Johnson III, Logan Ryan, Shawn Williams, Kevin Byard, Kevin King

2020 - 4.05
2021 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2022 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby UsualSuspects » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:28 am

Was declined with no counter.
Pretty sure the other owner thought it was an insulting offer.
Tried to see if he was previously interested in Ertz for Kirk and a second and he said that Kirk was worth more than Ertz straight up.
12 Team - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- 1pt ppr and return yds pts
Qb- Wentz, Cousins, Brady, Mullens
RB- Barkley, Breida, Penny, Hunt, Barber, Samuels, Hines, Love, Pollard, Mostert
WR- MT, Godwin, Edelman, Samuel, MVS, Crowder, Albert Wilson, Meyers, Pettis
TE- Hooper, Kelce, Andrews
K- Buttker
2020 pick- 3,3,4,4,4,5
2021 picks 1,1,2,3,4,5
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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby hoos89 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:39 am

UsualSuspects wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:28 am
Was declined with no counter.
Pretty sure the other owner thought it was an insulting offer.
Tried to see if he was previously interested in Ertz for Kirk and a second and he said that Kirk was worth more than Ertz straight up.
Thought it was insulting you asked that much for MT? Weird...I wouldn't call it an auto accept, but as someone who has MT in one league and all of the pieces in the package you asked for in another league, I would easily prefer MT.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Wentz, Minshew, Bridgewater, Haskins
Jacobs, Michel, D. Harris, Richard, Gaskin
DJ Moore, Sutton, Kupp, Kirk, Deebo, Dorsett, J. Gordon, Lee, Lazard
OJ Howard, Hockenson, Herndon
IR(2): Love, McKinnon
Taxi(4): MVS
2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 2.03, 2.11, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.03, 5.03

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Ryan, Bridgewater, Tannehill
Gurley, Barber, M. Brown, Miller, McKinnon, Ito, J. Jackson, R. Anderson, Richard, Edmunds
Thomas, Cooks, Watkins, Anderson, Beasley, Foster, Doctson, KeeSean, Lazard, Treadwell
Hooper, Herndon, Witten, Reed
2020 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.10, 2.11

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby badbuddah » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:49 pm

Goddard wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:32 am
Not close for MT.
I know MT is a stud, but that is a lot of promising talent and draft capital. Not sure I'd say not close. I'd think long and hard about it depending on my personal situation. Like everyone has said, he does need a RB, however.
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QB: L. Jackson, Drew Lock, J. Brissett, K. Allen
RB: D. Cook, Aaron Jones, N. Chubb, L. Murray, A. Mattison
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, D. Adams, J. Shuster, K. Golloday, A. Jeffery, C. Kirk, D. Samuel
TE: Z. Ertz, O.J. Howard, J. Sternberger, G. Everett
K: N. Folk, M. Badgley
DEF: San Francisco

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby badbuddah » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:50 pm

UsualSuspects wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:28 am
Was declined with no counter.
Pretty sure the other owner thought it was an insulting offer.
Tried to see if he was previously interested in Ertz for Kirk and a second and he said that Kirk was worth more than Ertz straight up.
Sounds like he is a bleep moron. Par for the course in fantasy in my experiences. All the advice and research I do and yet I find it doesn't matter when 90% of people are idiotic.
12 Team UNLIMITED Keeper / 23 Roster 1.0-PPR: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF 2 IR - 6th Year

QB: L. Jackson, Drew Lock, J. Brissett, K. Allen
RB: D. Cook, Aaron Jones, N. Chubb, L. Murray, A. Mattison
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, D. Adams, J. Shuster, K. Golloday, A. Jeffery, C. Kirk, D. Samuel
TE: Z. Ertz, O.J. Howard, J. Sternberger, G. Everett
K: N. Folk, M. Badgley
DEF: San Francisco

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby UsualSuspects » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:55 pm

hoos89 wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:39 am
UsualSuspects wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:28 am
Was declined with no counter.
Pretty sure the other owner thought it was an insulting offer.
Tried to see if he was previously interested in Ertz for Kirk and a second and he said that Kirk was worth more than Ertz straight up.
Thought it was insulting you asked that much for MT? Weird...I wouldn't call it an auto accept, but as someone who has MT in one league and all of the pieces in the package you asked for in another league, I would easily prefer MT.
Yeah, he is crazy rookie oriented but I thought that MT would be too much for him to pass up on.
I was wrong 🙂
After his no counter decline I wanted to make sure my valuations weren't way off.
12 Team - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- 1pt ppr and return yds pts
Qb- Wentz, Cousins, Brady, Mullens
RB- Barkley, Breida, Penny, Hunt, Barber, Samuels, Hines, Love, Pollard, Mostert
WR- MT, Godwin, Edelman, Samuel, MVS, Crowder, Albert Wilson, Meyers, Pettis
TE- Hooper, Kelce, Andrews
K- Buttker
2020 pick- 3,3,4,4,4,5
2021 picks 1,1,2,3,4,5
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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Goddard » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:15 pm

badbuddah wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:49 pm
Goddard wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:32 am
Not close for MT.
I know MT is a stud, but that is a lot of promising talent and draft capital. Not sure I'd say not close. I'd think long and hard about it depending on my personal situation. Like everyone has said, he does need a RB, however.
I don't know...Deebo and Kirk are nice, but nothing special nor anywhere near MT's value. Adding a mid-ish 1st doesn't close that gap for me. The 2nd and 3rd and worthless to me in trades like this.


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