How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:13 am

I love Barkley. I own him everywhere. 3 firsts is insane. 2 firsts is kinda dumb but alright. 1 first is probably light maybe a 2nd to or another peice of equivalent value but lets not get crazy here what's Barkleys value 6 firsts?
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby fab10 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:57 am

greenbird wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:52 am I would keep Cook and your 1sts. No need to trade for Barkley.
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby fab10 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:58 am

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:13 am I love Barkley. I own him everywhere. 3 firsts is insane. 2 firsts is kinda dumb but alright. 1 first is probably light maybe a 2nd to or another peice of equivalent value but lets not get crazy here what's Barkleys value 6 firsts?
Three first on-top of cook is insanity , I might add maybe a late first to the cook side ,
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby BradysBunch » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:37 pm

I would need two firsts on top of cook to sell. On the flip side, I would only give cook and a first to get Barkley. I would stay put
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:01 pm

BradysBunch wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:37 pm I would need two firsts on top of cook to sell. On the flip side, I would only give cook and a first to get Barkley. I would stay put
That is prob about right.

For people saying three 1sts, I can tell math and statistics mean nothing to you. Has there ever been anyone that has caused more irrational advice than Barkley? You are trying to tell me in the long run you would be better off with Barkley than Cook+Jeudy+Swift+Cam Akers? People are buying Cook for 2-3 1sts. So if you don’t like Cook you could sell him as well.

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Jerry Jeudy, DeAndre Swift, Jonathon Taylor, Travis Etiene, Cam Akers, Laviska Shenault.

I love Barkley, he might be my favorite player, and he can really be a generational talent, but that doesn’t mean he is worth more than that list of players.
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby Vcize » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:29 pm

LOL Dalvin and 3 firsts I thought I was saquon's biggest fan but I guess not.
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:56 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:01 pm
BradysBunch wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:37 pm I would need two firsts on top of cook to sell. On the flip side, I would only give cook and a first to get Barkley. I would stay put
That is prob about right.

For people saying three 1sts, I can tell math and statistics mean nothing to you. Has there ever been anyone that has caused more irrational advice than Barkley? You are trying to tell me in the long run you would be better off with Barkley than Cook+Jeudy+Swift+Cam Akers? People are buying Cook for 2-3 1sts. So if you don’t like Cook you could sell him as well.

Barkley

Or

Cook, Jeudy, Etiene, Akers/or

Jerry Jeudy, DeAndre Swift, Jonathon Taylor, Travis Etiene, Cam Akers, Laviska Shenault.

I love Barkley, he might be my favorite player, and he can really be a generational talent, but that doesn’t mean he is worth more than that list of players.
Or Dalvin gets hurt again, and 2 of those guys bust and you end up with next to nothing for one of the most valuable fantasy assets of all-time.

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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:26 am

Or Barkley comes back from his high ankle sprain and due to favoring his ankle, tears his achilles and never has the same burst again.

I get what you are saying though. I do think Cook is a high injury risk player due to his style. But historically, it's a good deal, especially in the 2020 class. And come on, every player has been untouchable at some point, but that time passes quicker than we would like.
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby Dynastydumpsterfire » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:11 am

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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby Kelldon » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:03 am

From what I have read in this thread and other threads is that you need to pay double what Barkley is actually worth to get him and that is just stupid and bad business. I get that you have to overpay sometimes for elite guys and I am fine with a SLIGHT overpay, but I am not paying double.

Look at how quick the value and outlook has changed for Gurley. People were prolly saying beginning of last year Gurley for player X + 2-3 1st.
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby hoos89 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:27 am

Vcize wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:29 pm LOL Dalvin and 3 firsts I thought I was saquon's biggest fan but I guess not.
Not just three firsts...one locked in top TWO. Cook + Jeudy/Swift/(your favorite 2020 RB) is already an overpay for any player.
bjd5211 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:56 am
Or Dalvin gets hurt again, and 2 of those guys bust and you end up with next to nothing for one of the most valuable fantasy assets of all-time.
Barkley is *currently* hurt. There are no sure things in fantasy, and he plays the most volatile, injury prone and shortest tenured position in the sport. Sure Dalvin and 2 firsts could bust, but is that more or less likely than Barkley blowing up his knee? And what happens if Cook doesn't get injured and continues to be a top 3-5 RB for the next 5 years AND two of those firsts turn into bona fide studs? Risk goes both ways.

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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby badbuddah » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:09 pm

hoos89 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:27 am
Vcize wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:29 pm LOL Dalvin and 3 firsts I thought I was saquon's biggest fan but I guess not.
Not just three firsts...one locked in top TWO. Cook + Jeudy/Swift/(your favorite 2020 RB) is already an overpay for any player.
bjd5211 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:56 am
Or Dalvin gets hurt again, and 2 of those guys bust and you end up with next to nothing for one of the most valuable fantasy assets of all-time.
Barkley is *currently* hurt. There are no sure things in fantasy, and he plays the most volatile, injury prone and shortest tenured position in the sport. Sure Dalvin and 2 firsts could bust, but is that more or less likely than Barkley blowing up his knee? And what happens if Cook doesn't get injured and continues to be a top 3-5 RB for the next 5 years AND two of those firsts turn into bona fide studs? Risk goes both ways.

Everyone does realize who won the Herschel Walker trade right?
Piling on, if you were savvy like me and got Mattison, you have even less to worry about if Cook gets hurt. I went back and forth about trading Chubb+Juju+1st for Barkley, but after seeing Chubb in action Sunday, hopefully the Browns realize how special he is and don't lock him into a timeshare when Hunt gets back. Barkley is a superstud, but it's one guy. I'm not sure if his positional advantage is even as high as Mahomes (1st vs 2nd).
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby cvbuc » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:38 pm

Tripwired wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:31 pm I'd say 3 firsts. I'd want one to be top 2, the second in the 3-5 range, and the other between the 5-7 range. That's steep, but saquon is all world.
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby frisco86 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:13 pm

D Cook is showing. Boom. No way I give up 3 2020 firsts. Cook seems to get injured, but all backs do at some point, well most. Just see Barkley. Barkley is clearly the #1 in all of Dynasty. But Cook is worth at least 2 #1's and maybe 3 if you believe he can continue. So how many do you add to that. Two at the most.
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Re: How many 1sts with Dalvin to get Barkley?

Postby gogobradyarm » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:01 pm

This is crazy. Cook is in an ideal system and finally healthy. People saying he is injury prone are the same people that said Keenan Allen was injury prone. Cook > Barkley. Right now, Barkley is the big name, and great talent with bad situation. Cook is the opposite. I’m not saying Barkley won’t be better someday, but the difference between the two players is no more than a mid first. Cook will outscore or score within 10% of Barkley on any season (barring injuries to either). That alone statistically makes trading more, a poor choice.
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