Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

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Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:17 am

Should I do this trade. My team is 0-3 and need something to start a win streak!!!

I would send
Darren Waller and Josh Allen
I receive
Baker Mayfield and Dj Chark
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby doctor d » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:57 am

Absolutely make that trade.
1: 12 team, .5PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 W/R/T
QB: Dak, Mayfield // RB: Mixon, Taylor, Akers, Gibson, McKinnon, Peterson, McFarland, Penny, Gio, Dallas, D. Williams // WR: Evans, Sutton, Chark, McLaurin, Boyd, Diontae, J. Jefferson, M. Williams, Crowder, Washington // TE: Goedert, OJH, Cox, Akins, Dissly

2: 12 team PPR, 6pt all TDs, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/R/T
QB: Watson, Minshew // RB: Saquon, Zeke, Cook, Drake, Mostert, McKinnon, Mattison, Pollard, Vaughn, Boston Scott, Ito // WR: Hopkins, Adams, Evans, Boyd, Diontae, Kirk, Lazard // TE: Hurst, Graham, Akins

3: 12 team SF, .5PPR, 6pt all TDs, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 W/R/T, 1 Q/W/R/T
QB: Wilson, Herbert, Carr, Lock, Smith, Stidham, Hoyer, Luck // RB: Cook, Chubb, Ekeler, Drake, Gibson, DJ, McKinnon, White, Hines, Mike Davis, JJ Taylor, Booker // WR: Moore, Lockett, ARob, Thielen, Reagor, Van Jefferson, Byrd // TE: Andrews, Henry

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Re: Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby abloom » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:30 pm

Not sure these guys start a win streak. If you want to win games this year, I don't see how this trade helps that.

Allen has outscored Mayfield, and Waller is putting up great numbers in the TE position. You'll be taking a huge hit there to get the points back in WR.

Also in a 10 team league with your roster you should be looking to trade for the future and blow it up.

Don't think you need Mayfield. I'd be selling Gurley, Hill, Mclaurin, and Waller for young guys/future assets.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:32 pm

Value wise, this is a solid trade. I dont think Mayfield is a guarantee necessarily like many thought however.

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Re: Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby abloom » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:34 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:32 pm Value wise, this is a solid trade. I dont think Mayfield is a guarantee necessarily like many thought however.
I think we're seeing the same thing that we saw with Luck. Good offensive pieces, horrible O-line. The problem is that I don't think that Mayfield is close to being as talented as Luck.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:16 pm

abloom wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:30 pm Not sure these guys start a win streak. If you want to win games this year, I don't see how this trade helps that.

Allen has outscored Mayfield, and Waller is putting up great numbers in the TE position. You'll be taking a huge hit there to get the points back in WR.

Also in a 10 team league with your roster you should be looking to trade for the future and blow it up.

Don't think you need Mayfield. I'd be selling Gurley, Hill, Mclaurin, and Waller for young guys/future assets.
If I do decide to blow it up, should that begin now or should I wait until the trade deadline? What type of offers should I be looking to get for Hill, Gurley, Waller and McLaurin. Do I really trade McLaurin as he is a young piece?
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby badbuddah » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm

I like Allen>Baker I think Mayfield is getting exposed. Unpopular opinion, but I think they are going in opposite directions. Chark is a great guy to get right now, and Waller is a 27 year old 3 week surprise, so I'd take Chark there, but the trade feels pretty even. Depending on team needs I'd likely go with the Waller side.
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QB: L. Jackson, J. Browning
RB: Aaron Jones, D'Ernest Johnson, E. Mitchell, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, K. Miller, P. Taylor
WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
TE: Z. Ertz, C. Okonkwo, Trey McBride, Tucker Kraft
K: T. Bass, J. Moody
DEF: San Francisco

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Re: Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby Krypto_King » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:26 pm

I would not do it. 10 team, max start 3 WR I'd never want to play DJ Chark and QB also hold little value in this format. I would start looking to re-coup some draft picks if you hit 0-4

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Re: Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby vixen » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:05 pm

I think I like Waller/Allen
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: Waller and Allen for Chark and Mayfield

Postby Samhain34 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:36 pm

I'd make this trade, then pack it in and be looking to lose out for the #1 pick in 2020 while selling off the likes of Gurley and Desean to a true contender once they have a big game or two. Mayfield has a rough schedule this year and is playing behind an absolutely abysmal offensive line; he's going to be fine this year while not interfering with your tanking this year. Perfect QB for you.


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