Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

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Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby Wolfepack28 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:50 am

I typically don't have buyer's or seller's remorse but a trade I made yesterday has me a bit confused as to how I should feel lol.

This is a deep superflex, TE premium (2 ppr) and heavy IDP (2.5 points per tackle for DE and 5 points per sack plus yardage lost)

Gave: Rodgers
Received: Metcalf, Herndon, Marcus Davenport

Regardless of team needs, do you believe this is close in terms of value?
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby curtisn16 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:51 am

Not at all close

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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby Wolfepack28 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:54 am

curtisn16 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:51 am
Not at all close
Yikes. Well then, sucks for me!

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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:54 am

yes you screwed up
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby Wolfepack28 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:56 am

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:54 am
yes you screwed up
Damn, thanks for the confirmation!

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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:59 am

Yikes. I don't play IDP, but unless Davenport is a real difference maker worth two 1sts, you sold way low on Rodgers in superflex. As a point of reference, I sold Aaron Rodgers + Zach Ertz + Kenny Golladay for Patrick Mahomes in a superflex league before the season started.
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby RB6 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:08 am

Eek.
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:08 am

Not a good trade unless as mentioned, Davenport puts up monster points. Tough one but it's done, just have to move forward.
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby Wolfepack28 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:22 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:59 am
Yikes. I don't play IDP, but unless Davenport is a real difference maker worth two 1sts, you sold way low on Rodgers in superflex. As a point of reference, I sold Aaron Rodgers + Zach Ertz + Kenny Golladay for Patrick Mahomes in a superflex league before the season started.
Good IDP's go as early as late 1st. Davenport was a mid 2nd round pick and he would still fetch a 2020 2nd (mid to late) in a trade in our league. Good DE's are hard to buy. He's averaging 14 ppg to begin the season and my next best is at about 8-9 points. Obviously, if he turns out to be a flop, it's not good for me. I'm hoping he can develop into a mid DE1 and score close to 20 per game.

With it being TE premium at 2ppr, I'm hoping Herndon can put up low end TE1 numbers which would be about 15-16 ppg. I only have Rudolph and Irv Smith at TE. If he puts up TE1 numbers, he's going to be valued as at least a late 1st in our league.

Obviously I'm hoping for Metcalf to develop into a beast and be worth 2 1st's. I have a lot of ifs ands or buts in this deal and I guess I risked a lot to just hopefully break even (best case scenario).

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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby theintercept » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:14 am

Wolfepack28 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:22 am
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:59 am
Yikes. I don't play IDP, but unless Davenport is a real difference maker worth two 1sts, you sold way low on Rodgers in superflex. As a point of reference, I sold Aaron Rodgers + Zach Ertz + Kenny Golladay for Patrick Mahomes in a superflex league before the season started.
Good IDP's go as early as late 1st. Davenport was a mid 2nd round pick and he would still fetch a 2020 2nd (mid to late) in a trade in our league. Good DE's are hard to buy. He's averaging 14 ppg to begin the season and my next best is at about 8-9 points. Obviously, if he turns out to be a flop, it's not good for me. I'm hoping he can develop into a mid DE1 and score close to 20 per game.

With it being TE premium at 2ppr, I'm hoping Herndon can put up low end TE1 numbers which would be about 15-16 ppg. I only have Rudolph and Irv Smith at TE. If he puts up TE1 numbers, he's going to be valued as at least a late 1st in our league.

Obviously I'm hoping for Metcalf to develop into a beast and be worth 2 1st's. I have a lot of ifs ands or buts in this deal and I guess I risked a lot to just hopefully break even (best case scenario).
This is a mistake I have made in the past. This looks like (but may not be) the typical case of not shopping a player enough to league mates. If you were looking to move on from Rodgers make sure you are getting a fair deal and not just a bunch of potential maybes.
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby joeya2001 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:53 am

Well it was a bad trade from a value stand point.

Do you feel this trade made your team better, and why?
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby doctor d » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:06 pm

As others have said, I think you sold low. Probably by at least a mid-1st, and that's assuming you don't believe in Rodgers all that much moving forward. For reference, recent trades in my SF league have included Rosen for JJAW and Bridgewater for an early 2020 2nd. QBs ain't cheap in a SF...
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:10 pm

LOL. I'm not going to sugar coat this like others on here. This is atrociously bad, and any attempt to rationalize it is absurd. I wouldn't give up half of Rodgers for that nonsense, let alone all of him. You sold him for less than half of what he is worth. It's that bad.

Good luck though. Wish you all the best.
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby abloom » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:20 pm

So... I think you completely undersold on Rodgers. That being said, I think this trade could pay off sooner than you think.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Rodgers go down the Luck path
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Re: Rodgers SF trade. Did I screw up?

Postby Wolfepack28 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:33 am

FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:10 pm
LOL. I'm not going to sugar coat this like others on here. This is atrociously bad, and any attempt to rationalize it is absurd. I wouldn't give up half of Rodgers for that nonsense, let alone all of him. You sold him for less than half of what he is worth. It's that bad.

Good luck though. Wish you all the best.
It sounds like you view Rodgers around 3 first round picks then, correct? Where does that put Barkley and Mahomes? 6 first round picks?

I think we agree that Metcalf is a mid first value considering he’s done nothing to drop his value from where he was drafted.

I think we’re discounting Herndon altogether here in a TE premium league at 2 points per reception. With last year’s performance as a rookie, his value could rise to a late 1st value especially in this format with a couple good weeks once he hits the field.

Looking back, did I sell low? Absolutely. But I don’t see anyone paying 3 1st’s for Rodgers considering his age and the mixed feelings on him across the board. I mean, there’s arguments that Metcalf is worth more than a 1st at this point.

The players outside of Metcalf may not be sexy but I believe that I could recoup the same value selling each of these players individually in terms of picks as one would get for Rodgers. Or at least somewhat close.

I appreciate the feedback. I definitely should have shopped him a little more but it’ll be fun to revisit here in 6 weeks and see what it looks like


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