Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

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Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby Jangles » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:25 am

5th Year of Dynasty and I am in a new position - Total Rebuild. Do i hold on to 28 year old Ertz or let him go?

I feel like I could be competitive again in a year or 2, i have draft capital and young potential at RBs. Should I trade Ertz (i am getting some good offers) or keep him around. Having a top tier TE is so convenient that i hate the idea of dealing him, but with his target share expectations over the next few weeks, i have a feeling this will be his peak value.

Would love any thoughts on Ertz (get draft picks? swap for a younger TE and a pick?), or other suggestions on my defeated roster below (I plan on shipping off AJG and Tate sometime this season):
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex, K, Def

QB: Brees, Darnold, Haskins, Teddy
RB: T. Coleman, R. Freeman, Gus Edwards, Ito, Henderson, D Harris, Mattison, Dexter Williams, Jeff Wilson, Ajayi, D. Martin
WR: Evans, M. Williams, Campbell, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Quinn, Enunwa, ESB, Hurd
TE: Ertz, Doyle
D: LAR
K: Gostkowski

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby Goddard » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:32 am

What are the offers you've gotten? If they're as good as you say, I'd sell and speed up the rebuilding process.

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby Jangles » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:39 am

Goddard wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:32 am
What are the offers you've gotten? If they're as good as you say, I'd sell and speed up the rebuilding process.
3 so far (might be able to counter better):

Mike Williams, Vance and a Late First

Sutton, Mark Andrews and a likely mid 2021 1st ... for Ertz and AJG

An early 2020 1st
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex, K, Def

QB: Brees, Darnold, Haskins, Teddy
RB: T. Coleman, R. Freeman, Gus Edwards, Ito, Henderson, D Harris, Mattison, Dexter Williams, Jeff Wilson, Ajayi, D. Martin
WR: Evans, M. Williams, Campbell, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Quinn, Enunwa, ESB, Hurd
TE: Ertz, Doyle
D: LAR
K: Gostkowski

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'21 Picks: 1,1,2,2

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby Jangles » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:40 am

Jangles wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:39 am
Goddard wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:32 am
What are the offers you've gotten? If they're as good as you say, I'd sell and speed up the rebuilding process.
3 so far (might be able to counter better):

Mike Williams, Vance and a Late First

Sutton, Mark Andrews and a likely mid 2021 1st ... for Ertz and AJG

An early 2020 1st
Also - Kittle owner interested in a swap and add in a small piece
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex, K, Def

QB: Brees, Darnold, Haskins, Teddy
RB: T. Coleman, R. Freeman, Gus Edwards, Ito, Henderson, D Harris, Mattison, Dexter Williams, Jeff Wilson, Ajayi, D. Martin
WR: Evans, M. Williams, Campbell, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Quinn, Enunwa, ESB, Hurd
TE: Ertz, Doyle
D: LAR
K: Gostkowski

'20 Picks: 1,1,2,2,2
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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby Goddard » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:47 am

Jangles wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:40 am
Jangles wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:39 am
Goddard wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:32 am
What are the offers you've gotten? If they're as good as you say, I'd sell and speed up the rebuilding process.
3 so far (might be able to counter better):

Mike Williams, Vance and a Late First

Sutton, Mark Andrews and a likely mid 2021 1st ... for Ertz and AJG

An early 2020 1st
Also - Kittle owner interested in a swap and add in a small piece
Who's adding? If it's you, would depend on how small the piece is. If he's adding, doesn't matter what it is and I'd take it straight up. As for the other offers, I like the Sutton, Andrews, 1st one best (but I'd try to see if you can make the 2021 into a 2020 1st).

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:56 am

If you get Kittle + a small piece, that is a nice deal long term.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby cvbuc » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:28 pm

I like the Sutton, Andrews, 1st deal quite a bit. Agree you should push for a 2020 1st.
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR League / 5pt passing TDs
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 21 Man Active Roster / 2 TAXI SQUAD SPOT
QB - L. Jackson, Cousins
RB - Kamara, D. Cook, Mixon, Breida, A. Mattison, Gio Bernard, Malc. Brown, R. Mostert,
WR - Juju, Evans, Golladay, Edelman, AJ Green, A. Tate, Allison, D. Robinson,
TE - Kelce, Goedert


TEAM TWO
12 Team PPR League / 5pt passing TDs / 28 man rosters
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1Def
QB- A. Rodgers, J. Winston, Dalton
RB- T. Gurley, M. Gordon, J. Connor, T. Coleman, C. Hyde, B. Snell, R. Mostert, Ajayi
WR- Julio, B. Cooks, Golladay, J. Landry, M. Jones, Crowder, Djax, D. Robinson, David Moore, Duke Williams
TE- Kelce, G. Everett, I. Thomas, Irv Smith,
DEF - Rams, Vikings

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby abloom » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:37 pm

Definitely trade ertz in this situation. It's likely he's in a worse situation in 2 years. I like the Sutton, andrews, 2021 pick. If you can make it a 2020 1st (even if you need to add a late pick in 2020 or 2021) it would be better quite a bit. I'd be hesitant on the "early 2020 1st" since it's possible it's not as early as you think. The m Williams, Vance, and 2020 1st I probably like the least. Unless you can flip Williams and vamce for More assets
Team #1 (5-2) rank: 1/12
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Haskins
RB: CMC, Hunt, Samuels, Peterson, Walton, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson (IR), McKinnon (IR), Guice (IR)
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, Kirk, C Samuel, Couttee, Allison
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,2,2,4,5,6,7
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Team #2 (4-3) rank: 4/12
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, J Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton, A Tate, Pettis
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring (IR)
K: Crosby
DST: NYJ

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (5-2) rank 2/10
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Minshew, Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida, Murray
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, McLaurin
TE: Hock
K: Bryant
DST: NYJ

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby Alex116 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:58 pm

The Sutton/Andrews deal is an easy accept for me. The other two, i'd strongly consider. I don't see Ertz having another year like last year and his value will prob only go down in the years moving forward. It's not that difficult to grab a young TE (see Andrews, Hock, etc) during a rebuild. However, getting one like Andrews as part of the deal makes it even sweeter. I'd pull the trigger on that and not look back.

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby perkinsrooster » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:32 pm

I like the Sutton deal also.

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby Jangles » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:46 am

I appreciate all the input - I definitely have a better sense of direction where i should go with him
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex, K, Def

QB: Brees, Darnold, Haskins, Teddy
RB: T. Coleman, R. Freeman, Gus Edwards, Ito, Henderson, D Harris, Mattison, Dexter Williams, Jeff Wilson, Ajayi, D. Martin
WR: Evans, M. Williams, Campbell, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Quinn, Enunwa, ESB, Hurd
TE: Ertz, Doyle
D: LAR
K: Gostkowski

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'21 Picks: 1,1,2,2

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:56 am

id prob lean MW, vance, and 2020 1st
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


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team 4
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team 5
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team 6
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team 7
https://www51.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0011

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby badbuddah » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:05 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:56 am
id prob lean MW, vance, and 2020 1st
This is the worst deal of the 3 imo. Who was talking about Kittle and an addon? If you can get him to give you Kittle and anything else at all, you should do that.
12 Team UNLIMITED Keeper / 23 Roster 1.0-PPR: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF 2 IR - 6th Year

QB: L. Jackson, Drew Lock, J. Brissett
RB: D. Cook, Aaron Jones, N. Chubb, L. Murray, A. Mattison
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, D. Adams, J. Shuster, K. Golloday, A. Jeffery, C. Kirk, D. Samuel
TE: Z. Ertz, O.J. Howard, J. Sternberger, G. Everett, L. Wilson
K: M. Nugent
DEF: Houston, San Francisco

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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?

Postby Jangles » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:14 pm

badbuddah wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:05 pm
BigBawseRoss wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:56 am
id prob lean MW, vance, and 2020 1st
This is the worst deal of the 3 imo. Who was talking about Kittle and an addon? If you can get him to give you Kittle and anything else at all, you should do that.
Kittle swap would require me to add a small piece, sorry if that wasnt clear.

Going to try and pair Ertz up with AJG and get some youth first. Then if that doesnt work out, weigh my best options in picks or a kittle swap.
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex, K, Def

QB: Brees, Darnold, Haskins, Teddy
RB: T. Coleman, R. Freeman, Gus Edwards, Ito, Henderson, D Harris, Mattison, Dexter Williams, Jeff Wilson, Ajayi, D. Martin
WR: Evans, M. Williams, Campbell, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Quinn, Enunwa, ESB, Hurd
TE: Ertz, Doyle
D: LAR
K: Gostkowski

'20 Picks: 1,1,2,2,2
'21 Picks: 1,1,2,2


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