Enough for Hock?

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Which of these trades is the right balance of a good trade but a "fair" offer?

Give: Njoku + I. Thomas Get: Hockenson
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Give: Rodgers + Njoku Get: Hockenson
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60%
Give: Rodgers + Njoku + D. Robinson + 2020 2nd Get: Hockenson + 2020 1st
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20%
None. These are all terrible offers.
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20%
None. I wouldn't offer any of these for Hock.
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Enough for Hock?

Postby Avery » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:20 pm

Edit to add a poll with some options to vote om! :thumbup:

Team 2 below and I've been making it work at TE but now with Njoku down, I need a bridge to Hendron.

Looking around my league, I'm thinking Hockenstein may be gettable.

Here's his team:
QBs: Rivers, Brissett
RBs: Ingram, McCoy, Michel, Penny, Pollard
WRs: Amendola, Foster, Filler, Hurd, Z. Jones, Parker, Stills, M. Williams
TEs: Hockenson

I'm thinking of offering:
Njoku + Robinson for Hockenson
or
Rodgers + Robinson + Njoku for Hockenson + 2020 1st

Would love to hear thoughts on what your thoughts are on each of those packages in terms of if I should do it and if they are "fair" value.
For bonus points, feel free to come up with a different/better offer.

Thanks for the assist! :thumbup:
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Team 1: Dynasty/Contract Team: 12 Team, PPR, QB,1 RB, 2WR, 2 Flex WR/RB, TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.25X receiving yards points)
QB – J. Hurts, A Richardson (R-IR))
RB – Javonte Williams, K. Walker III,J. Hill, J. Ford, K. Miller (R), J.K. Dobbins (IR), K. Hebert (IR)
WR – J. Chase, C. Lamb, K. Allen, T. Burks, DJ Chark, P. Nakua (R)
TE – D. Waller, C. Okonkwo, L. Thomas, J. Ferguson

Team 2: Dynasty Team: 12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex WR/RB/TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.5X receiving yards points)
QB - A. Rodgers, L. Jackson
RB - B. Hall, S. Barkley, A. Kamara, E. Mitchell, J. Mason, Z. White, K. Miller (R), T. Spears (R)
WR - T. Hill, D. Adams, C. Watson, M. Brown, R. Rice (R)
TE - D. Waller, G. Kittle, J. Ferguson
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Re: Enough for Hock?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:05 pm

I would try a Robinson + Miller package and see where that gets you. Likely not enough but I would want to hold Njoku in case Hockenson hits a rookie wall.
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Re: Enough for Hock?

Postby Avery » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:10 pm

Gator Sens wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:05 pm I would try a Robinson + Miller package and see where that gets you. Likely not enough but I would want to hold Njoku in case Hockenson hits a rookie wall.
I hear you but as he has no other TE I feel I'd need to offer him a TE back... even an injured one.
Team 1: Dynasty/Contract Team: 12 Team, PPR, QB,1 RB, 2WR, 2 Flex WR/RB, TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.25X receiving yards points)
QB – J. Hurts, A Richardson (R-IR))
RB – Javonte Williams, K. Walker III,J. Hill, J. Ford, K. Miller (R), J.K. Dobbins (IR), K. Hebert (IR)
WR – J. Chase, C. Lamb, K. Allen, T. Burks, DJ Chark, P. Nakua (R)
TE – D. Waller, C. Okonkwo, L. Thomas, J. Ferguson

Team 2: Dynasty Team: 12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex WR/RB/TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.5X receiving yards points)
QB - A. Rodgers, L. Jackson
RB - B. Hall, S. Barkley, A. Kamara, E. Mitchell, J. Mason, Z. White, K. Miller (R), T. Spears (R)
WR - T. Hill, D. Adams, C. Watson, M. Brown, R. Rice (R)
TE - D. Waller, G. Kittle, J. Ferguson
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Re: Enough for Hock?

Postby hoos89 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:12 pm

Avery wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:10 pm
Gator Sens wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:05 pm I would try a Robinson + Miller package and see where that gets you. Likely not enough but I would want to hold Njoku in case Hockenson hits a rookie wall.
I hear you but as he has no other TE I feel I'd need to offer him a TE back... even an injured one.
Why not just try getting Olsen for a 4th or something? I think trying to get Hockenson from a guy with only 1 TE is a lot of trouble to a fill a 2 week gap until Herndon comes back.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up

Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
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Re: Enough for Hock?

Postby Avery » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:25 pm

hoos89 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:12 pm
Avery wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:10 pm
Gator Sens wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:05 pm I would try a Robinson + Miller package and see where that gets you. Likely not enough but I would want to hold Njoku in case Hockenson hits a rookie wall.
I hear you but as he has no other TE I feel I'd need to offer him a TE back... even an injured one.
Why not just try getting Olsen for a 4th or something? I think trying to get Hockenson from a guy with only 1 TE is a lot of trouble to a fill a 2 week gap until Herndon comes back.
Heard but thinking that his teams weak enough at enough positions that maybe Hock is gettable here.
Team 1: Dynasty/Contract Team: 12 Team, PPR, QB,1 RB, 2WR, 2 Flex WR/RB, TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.25X receiving yards points)
QB – J. Hurts, A Richardson (R-IR))
RB – Javonte Williams, K. Walker III,J. Hill, J. Ford, K. Miller (R), J.K. Dobbins (IR), K. Hebert (IR)
WR – J. Chase, C. Lamb, K. Allen, T. Burks, DJ Chark, P. Nakua (R)
TE – D. Waller, C. Okonkwo, L. Thomas, J. Ferguson

Team 2: Dynasty Team: 12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex WR/RB/TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.5X receiving yards points)
QB - A. Rodgers, L. Jackson
RB - B. Hall, S. Barkley, A. Kamara, E. Mitchell, J. Mason, Z. White, K. Miller (R), T. Spears (R)
WR - T. Hill, D. Adams, C. Watson, M. Brown, R. Rice (R)
TE - D. Waller, G. Kittle, J. Ferguson
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Re: Enough for Hock?

Postby Avery » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:10 am

Bump after adding a poll. :thumbup:
Team 1: Dynasty/Contract Team: 12 Team, PPR, QB,1 RB, 2WR, 2 Flex WR/RB, TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.25X receiving yards points)
QB – J. Hurts, A Richardson (R-IR))
RB – Javonte Williams, K. Walker III,J. Hill, J. Ford, K. Miller (R), J.K. Dobbins (IR), K. Hebert (IR)
WR – J. Chase, C. Lamb, K. Allen, T. Burks, DJ Chark, P. Nakua (R)
TE – D. Waller, C. Okonkwo, L. Thomas, J. Ferguson

Team 2: Dynasty Team: 12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex WR/RB/TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.5X receiving yards points)
QB - A. Rodgers, L. Jackson
RB - B. Hall, S. Barkley, A. Kamara, E. Mitchell, J. Mason, Z. White, K. Miller (R), T. Spears (R)
WR - T. Hill, D. Adams, C. Watson, M. Brown, R. Rice (R)
TE - D. Waller, G. Kittle, J. Ferguson
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Re: Enough for Hock?

Postby Never Veto1 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:22 am

You need a none of the above in that poll. I wouldn't trade Hock for any of those options. Also I'm assuming Rodgers is Aaron, which in case won't help this guys team at all cause he doesn't look to be competing
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12 Team 1QB PPR
8 Starters - QB 1, RB 2(4), WR 3(5), TE 1(3)

QB - Kyler Murray, Derek Carr, Kenny Pickett
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Bijan Robinson, Kyren Williams, Travis Etienne, James Conner, Antonio Gibson, Chris Rodriguez
WR - Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Michael Pittman, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Jerry Jeudy, Rashod Bateman
TE - Sam Laporta, Kyle Pitts, Darren Waller, Isaiah Likely
Picks - 2.10, 3.10, 4.10, 5.10
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Re: Enough for Hock?

Postby Avery » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:30 am

Never Veto wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:22 am You need a non of the above in that poll. I wouldn't trade Hock for any of those options. Also I'm assuming Rodgers is Aaron, which in case won't help this guys team at all cause he doesn't look to be competing
Fair enough. Thx!
Team 1: Dynasty/Contract Team: 12 Team, PPR, QB,1 RB, 2WR, 2 Flex WR/RB, TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.25X receiving yards points)
QB – J. Hurts, A Richardson (R-IR))
RB – Javonte Williams, K. Walker III,J. Hill, J. Ford, K. Miller (R), J.K. Dobbins (IR), K. Hebert (IR)
WR – J. Chase, C. Lamb, K. Allen, T. Burks, DJ Chark, P. Nakua (R)
TE – D. Waller, C. Okonkwo, L. Thomas, J. Ferguson

Team 2: Dynasty Team: 12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex WR/RB/TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.5X receiving yards points)
QB - A. Rodgers, L. Jackson
RB - B. Hall, S. Barkley, A. Kamara, E. Mitchell, J. Mason, Z. White, K. Miller (R), T. Spears (R)
WR - T. Hill, D. Adams, C. Watson, M. Brown, R. Rice (R)
TE - D. Waller, G. Kittle, J. Ferguson
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Re: Enough for Hock?

Postby Never Veto1 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:58 am

Gator Sens wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:05 pm I would try a Robinson + Miller package and see where that gets you. Likely not enough but I would want to hold Njoku in case Hockenson hits a rookie wall.
Offering Njoku + Miller was going to be my suggestion
12 Team 1QB PPR
8 Starters - QB 1, RB 2(4), WR 3(5), TE 1(3)

QB - Kyler Murray, Derek Carr, Kenny Pickett
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Bijan Robinson, Kyren Williams, Travis Etienne, James Conner, Antonio Gibson, Chris Rodriguez
WR - Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Michael Pittman, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Jerry Jeudy, Rashod Bateman
TE - Sam Laporta, Kyle Pitts, Darren Waller, Isaiah Likely
Picks - 2.10, 3.10, 4.10, 5.10
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Re: Enough for Hock?

Postby Krypto_King » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:37 pm

when you need a short-term fill-in the hot, young thing should not be your target. Hock's value will vary wildly from owner to owner and it's only gone up from the mid-late 1st he was drafted at. go offer a 3rd for delanie or olsen or eifert
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