Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

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Todd Gurley
4
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2020 1st (early-mid) + 2021 1st (random)
5
56%
 
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Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby Life of Pablo » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:18 pm

Didn't think I'd be asking this question this time last year, but here we are. :cry:

Team in sig. With an RB core of Bell/DJ/Chubb + WR depth to fill out my flex for injuries/bye weeks, Gurley is sadly starting to feel like an odd man out on my team. I don't think I will need him that badly moving forward, and so now I'm just viewing him as a possible trade option for longer-term value. I feel like I could get a 2020 1st + 2021 1st from one team at the moment.

I think the risk here is that it's hard to tell where those picks will end up. Personally I think his team is below average for a 10-team league (even if you added Gurley to it), but it's certainly got firepower when his RBs are healthy and firing on all cylinders. There are two teams that are absolute garbage this year, so I'd project 1.03-1.06 for 2020, and just about anywhere for 2021.

So what do you think? Is early-mid 2020 1st + random 2021 1st fair value for Gurley? Anything that should be added to either side?

Directly below is HIS (NOT MINE :lol:) team, for reference. With Gurley added in there as an idea of what his team would look like.

QB: Brady, Garoppolo, Minshew
RB: Kamara, Mixon, Gurley, Ekeler, Hunt, AP, C Thompson
WR: ARob, Kupp, Kirk, Fitzgerald, DJax, Pettis, Ross, Hurd
TE: Delanie
K: McManus (usually doesn't stream)
DEF: Denver (usually doesn't stream)

And further below (in the sig) is MY team. 8-)
Last edited by Life of Pablo on Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:43 pm, edited 3 times in total.
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)

QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:20 pm

I would still hold him in case of injury. He will still put up solid RB2 numbers which could be helpful throughout the season since you are a contender.

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby Goddard » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:27 pm

I don't think you're getting a better offer than that. If the 1st was definitely early, I'd take it. I'm not sure you can compete even if you kept him with those WRs, so wouldn't blame you for getting out a year early than waiting and possibly being too late.

EDIT:
My bad, I was looking at the other owners team...your team is definitely competitive. I still think you can compete without Gurley, but it's definitely closer with your build.
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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:34 pm

Is there a way you could get Engram or Kittle and a 2021 1st? That might leave you competitive and upgrade your te and get some future firepower.

Or try for Mike Evans on a slight dip?

Or Diggs and a 1st?

All those would help you out I think.
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TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby Life of Pablo » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:36 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:20 pm I would still hold him in case of injury. He will still put up solid RB2 numbers which could be helpful throughout the season since you are a contender.
Thanks Gator Sens. I gotta say, you da real MVP in the Team Advice threads :clap: I feel like I always see you in here helping people out, and pretty quickly too. Like you're consistently the first or second guy to comment whenever I post on here lol. Anyway thanks for always being helpful.
Goddard wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:27 pm I don't think you're getting a better offer than that. If the 1st was definitely early, I'd take it. I'm not sure you can compete even if you kept him with those WRs, so wouldn't blame you for getting out a year early than waiting and possibly being too late.
Appreciate it. FYI, I hope you were mistaking his team for mine lol. I posted his team for reference (to give an idea of where his picks might end up), but my team is in the sig further below.

Either that or you're very low on my WRs! :lol:
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)

QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby Goddard » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:38 pm

Life of Pablo wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:36 pm
Gator Sens wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:20 pm I would still hold him in case of injury. He will still put up solid RB2 numbers which could be helpful throughout the season since you are a contender.
Thanks Gator Sens. I gotta say, you da real MVP in the Team Advice threads :clap: I feel like I always see you in here helping people out, and pretty quickly too. Like you're consistently the first or second guy to comment whenever I post on here lol. Anyway thanks for always being helpful.
Goddard wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:27 pm I don't think you're getting a better offer than that. If the 1st was definitely early, I'd take it. I'm not sure you can compete even if you kept him with those WRs, so wouldn't blame you for getting out a year early than waiting and possibly being too late.
Appreciate it. FYI, I hope you were mistaking his team for mine lol. I posted his team for reference (to give an idea of where his picks might end up), but my team is in the sig further below.

Either that or you're very low on my WRs! :lol:
Yeah, just updated my post...my bad!

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby Life of Pablo » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:38 pm

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:34 pm Is there a way you could get Engram or Kittle and a 2021 1st? That might leave you competitive and upgrade your te and get some future firepower.

Or try for Mike Evans on a slight dip?

Or Diggs and a 1st?

All those would help you out I think.
Ok, you're the second person (I think) to get confused on his team being mine :lol: :wall:

That's his team... my team, which already has Evans and Diggs, is further below (in the sig). I will edit my first post to clarify.
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)

QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:40 pm

My bad, i thought it was your team. Your team is a beast.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby Life of Pablo » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:40 pm

Goddard wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:38 pm Yeah, just updated my post...my bad!
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:40 pm My bad, i thought it was your team. Your team is a beast.
Lol. All good :thumbup: I'm editing my first post now.
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)

QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:42 pm

Looks like we have the same thought process on who to aquire though. Lol.

It could go either way with your actual team. I guess i would sell and then overpay for someone if you are beset by injury.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby Life of Pablo » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:48 pm

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:42 pm Looks like we have the same thought process on who to aquire though. Lol.

It could go either way with your actual team. I guess i would sell and then overpay for someone if you are beset by injury.
That's a good way to look at it. Even if I end up missing Gurley, a lot of my league is thirsty for future 1st's so I'd likely have some good options if I needed a win-now piece later.
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)

QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Trade away Gurley for two 1st's?

Postby notweswelker » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:42 pm

I'd take the picks. Sadly :(


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