Should I move Hock for this?

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Should I move Hock for this?

Postby Nflnz » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:50 pm

A guy in my league is desperate for TJ Hockenson.

Should i make the following trade

Give: TJ Hockenson
Get: 2x 2020 1st
Team1
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex R/W/T
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tannehill, Levis
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Etienne, Hall, White
WR: Chase, Lamb, Puka, M Williams, JSN, Juju, R Moore
TE: Kelce, Hock, Mcbride
2024 1st, 2ndx2, 3rd, 4th, 5th

Team 2.
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: A Rich, R Wilson, Geno, Zappe
RB: Roschon, Millar, Dobbins, Rivers
WR: London, Addison, Tank, M Wilson, Mingo, Tillman, Perry, Heath
TE: Kincaid, McBride, Gray
2024 1stx2, 2ndx2, 3rdx2, 4th, 5th

Team 3
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: Hurts, Lawrence, Jimmy G, Young
RB: Etienne, Walker, CMC, Gainwell, Mattison, Gibson
WR: Higgins, Adams, London, Cooks, Hodgins, Landry, Doubs, Mims
TE: McBride, Okonkwo, Trautman, Bellinger
2024 1st, 2nd x2, 3rd x2, 4th, 5th

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby Slackalacker » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:51 pm

That’s good value I feel like you have to take that unless you have top 3 TE thoughts in your head
TEAM 1 - 10 team SF 1PPR | 2017 & 2019 League Champ
1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby Dibbles » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:52 pm

Absolutely, two 2020 1sts >>> one mid-to-late 2019 1st (Hock)

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby TimeWillTell » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:54 pm

I love Hock. Took him at 1.07. But I'd easily move him for 2x 2020 1st
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12 Team 1QB 0.5 PPR 30 man roster
Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Mahomes, Brady, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Jacobs
WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
TE: Hock, Dulcich, Chig, Fant, Jonnu, Hurst, Everett
K: Some guy
Def: Who knows
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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:00 pm

Solid deal for you, take the two 1sts.

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby sloth8u » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:34 pm

Id keep hock since you dont have te yet. Would seem you tried addressing the issue this draft....why take more stabs next year? Bird in hand is better than bird in bush.

Maybe fant interest him?

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby Goddard » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:56 pm

That's good value. You need help at more than just TE, so take the two 1sts and continue building. You also haven't said where the 1sts are projected, so if even one of them ends up being early, it'll be a nice steal for you.

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby Mike from Canada » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:38 pm

Wow. Have to take this value.

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby Nflnz » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:05 pm

Goddard wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:56 pm That's good value. You need help at more than just TE, so take the two 1sts and continue building. You also haven't said where the 1sts are projected, so if even one of them ends up being early, it'll be a nice steal for you.
My prediction for the picks I would receive are 1.07 and 1.10
Team1
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex R/W/T
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tannehill, Levis
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Etienne, Hall, White
WR: Chase, Lamb, Puka, M Williams, JSN, Juju, R Moore
TE: Kelce, Hock, Mcbride
2024 1st, 2ndx2, 3rd, 4th, 5th

Team 2.
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: A Rich, R Wilson, Geno, Zappe
RB: Roschon, Millar, Dobbins, Rivers
WR: London, Addison, Tank, M Wilson, Mingo, Tillman, Perry, Heath
TE: Kincaid, McBride, Gray
2024 1stx2, 2ndx2, 3rdx2, 4th, 5th

Team 3
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: Hurts, Lawrence, Jimmy G, Young
RB: Etienne, Walker, CMC, Gainwell, Mattison, Gibson
WR: Higgins, Adams, London, Cooks, Hodgins, Landry, Doubs, Mims
TE: McBride, Okonkwo, Trautman, Bellinger
2024 1st, 2nd x2, 3rd x2, 4th, 5th

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby PR0v3 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:14 pm

Would you trade away rookie Kelce or Gronk for 2 1sts?
There is really no reason to believe Hock won’t be the best TE in the league at some point. He is the Saquon/Luck of TEs.
12 Team .5 PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB 20 man rosters, 5 man taxi est. 2018
QB: Dak, Pickett
RB: CMC, Taylor, Gibson, Dillon, Akers, Penny
WR: JJeff, Hollywood, Olave, Toney, Aiyuk, Jeudy, C. Davis, Boyd, C. Samuel,
TE: Njoku, Gesicki
2023 picks: 1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:18 am

PR0v3 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:14 pm Would you trade away rookie Kelce or Gronk for 2 1sts?
There is really no reason to believe Hock won’t be the best TE in the league at some point. He is the Saquon/Luck of TEs.
we dont have a clue about hock for a few more weeks. things are not set based on week 1 box scores. Luck is a putrid example as well lol
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby Paul717 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:04 am

It's pretty good value. I'd consider if someone made me that offer for Hock. (Note: I can't see anyone in my league making this sort of offer. Folks love their draft picks in my league).

That said, I wouldn't fault you for holding either. In my case, it's been a LONG time since I've had any major production at TE. Been rolling with Cameron Brate the last 2-3 years, lol.

Ultimately I agree with a post above...see if the other team has interest in Fant first.
"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 :cry: , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions

Picks:
2024: All my picks except 3rd rounder

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby GridironGuerilla » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am

That would be an instant smash accept for me. 1 TE league and you have Fant as well. I absolutely take it. I am not passing up on the talent at RB and WR I could get in the 1st in next years draft for almost any TE in this format.
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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby Nflnz » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:08 pm

JD Austin wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:37 am
A guy in my league is desperate for TJ Hockenson.

Should i make the following trade

Give: TJ Hockenson
Get: 2x 2020 1st
Wow. You sure are getting a lot of interest in Hock in this 12 team league of yours. This is the 3rd offer in as many days. You've already posted about getting an offer of a 2020 1st and DJ Chark, then an offer of Antonio Brown, and now you're getting one of two 2020 1sts. That's pretty insane.

Are these offers coming from the same owner?

As I noted in the Antonio Brown offer thread, I'd love to see a league link so that I can take a closer look at the league's teams and get a sense of where your squad is at in its rebuild.
Yes all from the same owner. He has stated he has Hock in several other leagues, loves him. That owner also had Gronk so he sees Hock in the same vein as that.

How do you post a link to the league? We use Sleeper.
Team1
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex R/W/T
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tannehill, Levis
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Etienne, Hall, White
WR: Chase, Lamb, Puka, M Williams, JSN, Juju, R Moore
TE: Kelce, Hock, Mcbride
2024 1st, 2ndx2, 3rd, 4th, 5th

Team 2.
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: A Rich, R Wilson, Geno, Zappe
RB: Roschon, Millar, Dobbins, Rivers
WR: London, Addison, Tank, M Wilson, Mingo, Tillman, Perry, Heath
TE: Kincaid, McBride, Gray
2024 1stx2, 2ndx2, 3rdx2, 4th, 5th

Team 3
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: Hurts, Lawrence, Jimmy G, Young
RB: Etienne, Walker, CMC, Gainwell, Mattison, Gibson
WR: Higgins, Adams, London, Cooks, Hodgins, Landry, Doubs, Mims
TE: McBride, Okonkwo, Trautman, Bellinger
2024 1st, 2nd x2, 3rd x2, 4th, 5th

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Re: Should I move Hock for this?

Postby diamonddave » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:31 pm

two 2020-1sts. I think I'd take them for Hock and pray Fant pulls through for you :)
12-team, PPR, 2QB, IDP League--Start 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 W/R/T, 2D, 1LB, 1DL, 1DB

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew
RB: Saquon Barkley, David Montgomery, D'Onta Foreman, AJ Dillon, Kenneth Gainwell, Jeff Wilson, Rico Dowdle, IR: JK Dobbins
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Cooper Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Marquise Brown, Josh Palmer, Dontayvion Wicks, Tutu Atwell
TE: TJ Hockensen, Pat Freiermuth
K: Dustin Hopkins
LB: Roquan Smith, CJ Mosley, Terrel Bernard Ernest Jones, Quincy Williams
DL: Jonathan Greenard , Malcolm Koonce
DB: Jason Pinnock


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