Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what? TRADE COMPETED - HOW'D I DO?

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Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what? TRADE COMPETED - HOW'D I DO?

Postby Wizard » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:07 am

Seemed like everyone was really high on Golladay at the end of last year and that a lot of dynasty players thought he was due to have a big breakout this season now that he was officially Detroit's top WR and could be a stud WR1 for years to come. But every "expert" article I read about him this year says he's going to high in drafts, he's only a WR3 with upside, he's on a bad offense, his coach emphasizes the run and doesn't want to throw it, Stafford is throwing the ball less and less each year, Golladay didn't step up when he was the only real WR Detroit had at the end of the season. Not that they are saying he is bad, but the all seem to feel he's over rated. I really haven't seen a positive article about him leading into this season.

So what's everyone's though on him now going into the season? Do you expect him to be a WR2, WR3, a breakout to a WR1? I'm trying to work out a trade for him but I'm getting cold feet. The owner wants T. Coleman, JJAW (who I'm really high on) and a high 2020 2nd round pick, that seems like to much to me if he's only going to be a WR3. What are you thoughts. Thanks
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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby sloth8u » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:41 am

If your asking if the concerns are legit??? Yes. Pretty sure its been spelled out in another thread here (maybe try a search). Either way, you've read about it elsewhere and they are very real. Targets play a huge part in fantasy and it would seem that kenny isnt likely to get the volume needed to put up wr1 numbers.

In the big picture its going to come down to consistency id imagine. 1 week with 20-25 pts then 3 weeks with 8-12 pts. Thats the type of guy you want for depth or flex on contending teams, not someone you want to be counting on.

I think most owners will be happy if the numbers dont drop from 70, 1000, 5....tough to imagine they get a whole lot better.

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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby ninotoreS » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:50 am

Wizard wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:07 am
Golladay didn't step up when he was the only real WR Detroit had at the end of the season
The guy throwing him the ball was playing with a broken back at the time. Literally.

Detroit offense isn't necessarily bad. Russell Wilson had 4k passing yardage years with Bevell as OC, and Stafford has a live arm, a finally improving O-line (best O-line Stafford's had in the better part of a decade), and above-average weapons in Golladay, Jones, Hock, Amendola, KJ...

Anyway, I'm projecting Golladay for WR2 tier numbers.
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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby vflgladiators » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:52 am

Where do we value Golladay in 2019 rookie picks or 2020 picks. What would you need to receive to move Golladay.
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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:05 am

I agree. The end of last year he was a full tier above Godwin and Boyd and was untouchable as a future WR1. People were asking for 1.01+ for him and now that the offseason dust has settled people seem to realize he's a little older than they like on an offense they don't like. I think he's probably a fringe top 24 WR by the end of the year.
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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby notweswelker » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:41 am

ninotoreS wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:50 am
Wizard wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:07 am
Golladay didn't step up when he was the only real WR Detroit had at the end of the season
The guy throwing him the ball was playing with a broken back at the time. Literally.

Detroit offense isn't necessarily bad. Russell Wilson had 4k passing yardage years with Bevell as OC, and Stafford has a live arm, a finally improving O-line (best O-line Stafford's had in the better part of a decade), and above-average weapons in Golladay, Jones, Hock, Amendola, KJ...

Anyway, I'm projecting Golladay for WR2 tier numbers.
The Stafford and Golladay hate train has gotten hilarious. Stafford has thrown >4,200 yards in 7 of the previous 8 seasons. The guy plays through a broken back and has an off year and people want to make that 1/8 the standard. Stafford will be a high end QB2/low end QB1 and I expect Golladay to be an above average or better WR2 as well. Golladay had a mini-breakout last year and even with a hobbled Stafford he cleared 1K yards in his second season in the league. The guy is 25 and people are talking like he's ancient. Davante Adams' first 1K yard season just came last year, when guess what? He was 25. Stafford is entering QB golden years in his early 30s. Anybody fading these two has the analytical IQ of a goldfish.

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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby Lord_Varys » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:06 pm

He had 1,063 yds and 5 TDs last year. That's getting an awful lotta hype for a team that added a red zone weapon and is going even more run-heavy.

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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby notweswelker » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:14 pm

Lord_Varys wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:06 pm
He had 1,063 yds and 5 TDs last year. That's getting an awful lotta hype for a team that added a red zone weapon and is going even more run-heavy.
It's an awful lotta hype to expect a good 2nd year WR to improve slightly in his 3rd year?

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Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:16 pm

I own him but don't have a strong take. I do find it funny when it comes to Kenny that lack of hype dropped his value. It should be as high as ever if it was previously correct. Or maybe the market has corrected. I don't have a clue really
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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:48 pm

If you're drafting or trading for Golladay to be your WR1, then you may be disappointed. But, he's a good WR2 and an absolute luxury as a WR3/Flex. Just because the Lions are trying to emphasize the run more, doesn't mean they can't support a solid WR2. I expect Golladay to hit 1000 yards again and improve his TDs to 8-10.

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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby ArrylT » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:05 pm

I definitely think Golladay has WR2 potential. If you're more interested in production and not worried about age or value then Golladay will serve you for a few years - just like Tate & Jones did before him. If your focus is on ensuring value then likely Golladay is at his peak value due to his age & situation (ie the odds are slim due to various factors that he climbs much higher in adp).
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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby AussieMate » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:10 pm

Marvin Jones didn't die, people forget how good he was in 2017 before his injuries in 2018. I still like Golladay but I'd stop short of saying he is the Lions wr1 while Jones is still good.

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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby nathanq42 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:51 pm

AussieMate wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:10 pm
Marvin Jones didn't die, people forget how good he was in 2017 before his injuries in 2018. I still like Golladay but I'd stop short of saying he is the Lions wr1 while Jones is still good.
Jones has the most unimpressive top 10 end of season statline in 2017... I don't understand how he did it... And I look at the two as 1a and 1b in the offense. We all know a healthy Stafford will put up ~4k yards even with a heavier focus on rushing and defense imo. Tonnes of opportunity with Stafford at QB for both to succeed
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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby Amoo » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:07 pm

I’m expecting ~75/1100/8 for the next couple years. So probably a mid WR2. After that, who knows as his contract will be up and his situation could drastically change. But his ability to outplay defenders in one on one balls could lead to ONE monster year at some point (think ARob), whenever that may be.

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Re: Golladay - is he a WR2 or WR3 or what?

Postby Plank » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:52 pm

WR2, hoping for WR1 myself .. If things don't get kick started out the gate vs. ARI, I may rethink, but as of now, it's a full go.
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