Big Hopkins+ trade

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Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby sugbear65 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:01 pm

I’m a huge Nuk fan, who isn’t right? So don’t wanna be swayed by man crush on him. I actually like all the pieces involved more than most, so it’s tough for me to value properly. So let me know what you all think.
This a 12 team, Superlex, PPR, .25PPC, 1.5PPR TE bonus league.
Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF(any position), 1F(RB,WR, or TE), 1D and 1K

I Give- D. Hopkins, M. Sanders, Eagles D
I Get- D. Cook, D. Singletary, C. Kupp

My team from memory, may be missing some backenders-
L. Jackson, J. Allen, A. Luck, M. Rudolph, N. Mullens
DJ, L. Fournette, M. Sanders, F. Gore, C. Hyde, Ty Johnson, J. McKinnon
Nuk, OBJ, AJ Green, Dede Westbrook, Jon Brown
J. Cook, J. Smith, G. Everett

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:03 pm

Hopkins side for me no doubt.

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby Jak » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:20 pm

Hopkins side. And it’s not close for me.
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QB - P Rivers, M Mariota, R Tannehill
RB - L Bell, M Gordon, K Drake, R Burkhead, I Smith, G Edwards
WR - D Hopkins, B Cooks, C Godwin, R Anderson, A Miller, M Valdes-Scantling, J Gordon, D Pettis, P Williams
TE - G Kittle, H Henry, W Dissly

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QB - A Rodgers, J Winston, M Mariota
RB - L Bell, J Mixon, D Henderson, C Hyde, L Murray, J Jackson
WR - D Hopkins; AJ Green, S Diggs, C Godwin, D Pettis, L Fitzgerald, J Gordon, C Conley, P Williams
TE - A Hooper, H Henry, T Burton, M Andrews

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby wingnutty » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:50 pm

hopkins, not close

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby GoIllini » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:02 pm

Easily Hopkins side.
10 team league (.5 pts per reception)
QB - Hurts / Fields
WR - Chase / AJ Brown / D. Smith / Jeudy / Burks
RB - Barkley / J. Taylor / J. K. Dobbins / Akers / Pacheco / Mattison / CEH
TE - Kmet / Dulcich
K - Butker
Defense - Ravens

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby Goddard » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:31 am

I wouldn't move Hopkins alone for that, let alone add Sanders who was an early 1st this year.

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby FantasyFoosball » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:34 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. There's no way this is a real question.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby cptjonesb » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:06 am

Jak wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:20 pm Hopkins side. And it’s not close for me.
This

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby sugbear65 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:50 pm

Wow, that far off to everybody even in 1/4 point per carry? Let me throw this wrinkle in, take Singletary and Sanders out of the equation. I’m the biggest Singletary truther you will find, I was drafting him 1.06 in other leagues back in May. I would rather have Devin than Sanders. I know and accept that’s losing value, Sanders is currently valued more. But I love Sing and think it’s only a matter of time before everyone sees what I do. And I’m an Eagles fan to boot, go figure!
So then Nuk for Cook and Kupp is no bueno? Remember in this scoring that RBs get a big bump, they are the most valuable position in this league, even above QB and it’s superflex. For instance, last year the top scorer at RB was S. Barkley with 451 points. The top scorer at WR was T. Hill with 343.
Believe me, I’m not trying to defend the trade. But I honestly thought it was really close. So I don’t know if the scoring was missed by anyone or if that makes a difference, or if I’m just bananas. And I wanted to lay out my Sing>Sanders personal stance. Also I should point out, I may be blinded by my love, Obviously Devin but Kupp is my man crush too. This would give me both players owned in every league, only 2 players I would own everywhere exclusively.

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby dblj1199 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:11 pm

Easy, EASY reject.
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10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP


Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker

draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:33 pm

sugbear65 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:50 pm Wow, that far off to everybody even in 1/4 point per carry? Let me throw this wrinkle in, take Singletary and Sanders out of the equation. I’m the biggest Singletary truther you will find, I was drafting him 1.06 in other leagues back in May. I would rather have Devin than Sanders.
1. Yes, even in PPC, I'd say Sanders = Kupp, Hopkins >> Cook + Singletary.
2. If you really love Singletary, no one is stopping you from making this trade. It's certainly possible that you'll prove us all wrong. Personally though, Sanders >> Singletary, and I would need way more to sell Hopkins.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby jetsfan5757 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:18 pm

Not sure how. 25ppc vs 1.5ppr balances out, but I also think it's Hopkins side pretty easily.

If Cook and Cupp reach their ceilings that side might win. Otherwise it's Hopkins side.
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)

QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble

K (1): M. Crosby

DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby Broncos2407 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:28 pm

Nuk all day
12 team PPR. QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE PK Two Flex(RB/WR/TE)
Qb- Aaron Rodgers, C. Wentz, Eli Manning, Foles, Rudolph
RB- Kamara, Gurley, M. Gordon, Theo Riddick, , Prosise, Tyler Ervin, Dex. Williams
WR- AB, M.Evans, Diggs, J.Edelman, K.Stills, Amendola
TE- H. Henry, Brate, J. Heuerman, Jake Butt, J. Oliver, D. Shultz,
PK- S.Gostkowski, Brandon McManus, Lutz
Picks: 2020 3rd, 4th.
2021 3rd, 4th

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby colt77 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:10 pm

Don't do it, value is to the dude getting Hopkins.
12 Man SF 2point TE Premium PPR 6pt passing Tds - Lineup req. - Qb, 2 Rbs, 3 Wrs, 1 TE, 2 Flex, SF, K, D
Qbs: Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence
Rbs: Barkley, Breece Hall, Javonte Williams, Swift, Jamaal Williams
Wrs: Deebo Samuel, Olave, Diontae Johnson, Odell, Bateman, Nico Collins
TEs: Kyle Pitts, Higbee, Kittle, Okonkwo
K: Gay
D: -Steelers

12 Man 1 QB PPR - Lineup req. - Qb, 2 Rbs, 2 Wrs, 1 TE, 2 Flex, K, D 2021 -Picks- 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.01, 3.04
Qbs: Lamar Jackson, Hurts, Tua
Rbs: Barkley, Swift, Akers, Gus Edwards, Henderson, Lindsey, Rhamondre Stevenson
Wrs: Michael Thomas, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Bateman, Odell Beckham, Tee Higgins, Cooper Kupp, Nico Collins
TEs: Kittle, Pitts, Jacob Harris
K: Butker

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Re: Big Hopkins+ trade

Postby colt77 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:10 pm

Don't do it, value is to the dude getting Hopkins.
12 Man SF 2point TE Premium PPR 6pt passing Tds - Lineup req. - Qb, 2 Rbs, 3 Wrs, 1 TE, 2 Flex, SF, K, D
Qbs: Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence
Rbs: Barkley, Breece Hall, Javonte Williams, Swift, Jamaal Williams
Wrs: Deebo Samuel, Olave, Diontae Johnson, Odell, Bateman, Nico Collins
TEs: Kyle Pitts, Higbee, Kittle, Okonkwo
K: Gay
D: -Steelers

12 Man 1 QB PPR - Lineup req. - Qb, 2 Rbs, 2 Wrs, 1 TE, 2 Flex, K, D 2021 -Picks- 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.01, 3.04
Qbs: Lamar Jackson, Hurts, Tua
Rbs: Barkley, Swift, Akers, Gus Edwards, Henderson, Lindsey, Rhamondre Stevenson
Wrs: Michael Thomas, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Bateman, Odell Beckham, Tee Higgins, Cooper Kupp, Nico Collins
TEs: Kittle, Pitts, Jacob Harris
K: Butker


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