Allen Robinson Trade

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Allen Robinson Trade

Postby McCafsteez » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:31 am

Would you trade Allen Robinson for a 2020 1st (my first back) 2020 2nd and a 2020 3rd?


Team 1 in sig. i am a contender. I paid 2019 1.06 for Allen robinson this off-season.

Would probably want a stash player back on this trade.
Team 1 (Dynasty)

12 Team PPR (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2 FLEX, K, DL, LB, DB)

QB: Watson, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, McCarron, B. Allen
RB: Chubb, Cook, Mack, White, Hines, Hilliard
WR: Evans, JuJu, DJ Moore, M. Williams, A. Robinson, J. Ross, D. Moore, J. Grant, D Cain, Conley, Agholor
TE: Engram, Waller, Hurst
K: Crosby
DL: Cameron Heyward
LB: Corey Littleton, Zach Cunningham
DB: Landon Collins, Jabrill Peppers

Draft Picks:
2020: 2, 2
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4


Team 2 (Start-Up)


12 Team PPR (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, FLEX K, DST, 7 Bench)

QB: Rodgers,Murray
RB: Elliot, Chubb,Guice, Edmonds
WR: Hopkins, DJ Moore, Fitzgerald, Davis, T. Williams, Landry
TE: Kittle, Hockenson
K: Badgley
DEF: N.O. Saints

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby pmart33 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:38 am

I think the value is pretty good, but in your situation I'd hold A-rob as a depth piece.
Team 1
12 Team League .5 PPR
Starters: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1Flex (WR/RB/TE)

QB: Dak, Brady, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Connor, Henry, Hunt, L. Murray, Samuels
WR: Cooper, Woods, Golladay, Boyd, Crowder, AJ Brown, Allison
TE: Kelce, Henry, Irv Smith Jr.

Team 2
12 Team League PPR
Starters: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex (WR/RB/TE)

QB: Wentz, Rivers
RB: Jamaal Williams, Justice Hill, Gio Bernard, Edmonds, Hines,
WR: Adams, Juju, Evans, Josh Gordon, Reynolds, Arcega-Whiteside
TE: Njoku, Goedert, Sternberger

Taxi: R. Ridley, Ty Johnson, D. Ozigbo
Picks:
2020: 5 1sts
2021: 5 1sts

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:30 am

It would hurt your depth, but I would make that deal. Solid value.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby crip7300 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:34 am

I would take that for ARob and look to buy a decent WR4 with the 2nd rounder you just acquired to fill out your WR depth.
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Ryan Darnold
RB Bell Gurley Chubb Conner AJones
WR AB OBJ Parker Sanu Quinn Hurd
TE Waller Cook

Team 2
12 team PPR .5 RB/WR, 1 TE
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex
QB Cam Darnold
RB Barkley Gurley Bell DJ Fournette
WR AB Juju Amari Cooks Watkins DJMoore
TE Kittle Njoku Hockenson

Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Cam Stafford Darnold
RB Barkley Bell Fournette Coleman Lindsay MBrown
WR OBJ Evans Golladay Pettis Humphries Quinn Renfrow
TE Cook Ebron

Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB BigBen Brissett
RB Gurley Barkley Mixon Mack
WR OBJ Juju DJMoore Kirk Metcalf Alshon
TE Kittle Herndon Waller

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12 Team 30 Keeper
Superflex PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF DEF
QB Baker Darnold Carr
RB Gurley Sony Guice DamWilliams Ingram J. Hill Breida AP

WR Juju Diggs Cooks Golladay DJMoore AJBrown Hollywood Alshon JJAWS Tyrell Quinn Ross
TE Kittle Herndon Graham Jonnu

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby Never Veto » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:47 am

I'm not sure this is actually that good of return on investment. You spent the 1.06 to get him, and I'm assuming you are hoping to do well and get far in the payoffs so if that works out the 1st will be a higher pick. So then you will have traded the 1.06 for say the 1.10-1.12 next year plus a 2nd and 3rd. So it's basically a break even. The only way you win that trade is if your team does middle of the road or worse. I also think the trade hurts your depth and ability to win this year, however if you can get DeSean Jackson or someone like that for the 2020 3rd I would give it a shot.
20 Team Superflex (1/2 PPR / 6pt TD's)
11 Starters - QB 1(2), RB 2(4), WR 2(5), TE 2(3)


QB - Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins, Andrew Luck
RB - Kenyan Drake, Rashaad Penny, Royce Freeman, Malcolm Brown, Wayne Gallman
WR - Odell Bechkam Jr, Adam Thielen, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Kenny Golladay, Curtis Samuel
TE - Zach Ertz, OJ Howard
IR - Jerrick McKinnon
PS - Jarrett Stidham, Gary Jennings,
Record 21-5

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby GridironGuerilla » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:51 am

I would try to hold into the season to retain the depth and look to possibly move once you get a better picture of your teams direction. I think it's descent return.
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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby pmart33 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:52 am

Never Veto wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:47 am
I'm not sure this is actually that good of return on investment. You spent the 1.06 to get him, and I'm assuming you are hoping to do well and get far in the payoffs so if that works out the 1st will be a higher pick. So then you will have traded the 1.06 for say the 1.10-1.12 next year plus a 2nd and 3rd. So it's basically a break even. The only way you win that trade is if your team does middle of the road or worse. I also think the trade hurts your depth and ability to win this year, however if you can get DeSean Jackson or someone like that for the 2020 3rd I would give it a shot.
In most years I think people would agree with your assessment. But I think many in the dynasty community feel that a late 2020 1st alone is more valuable than 1.06 in this years draft. Whether that works out or not remains to be seen, but it seems like the 2020 hype is running rampant, and has been for awhile now.
Team 1
12 Team League .5 PPR
Starters: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1Flex (WR/RB/TE)

QB: Dak, Brady, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Connor, Henry, Hunt, L. Murray, Samuels
WR: Cooper, Woods, Golladay, Boyd, Crowder, AJ Brown, Allison
TE: Kelce, Henry, Irv Smith Jr.

Team 2
12 Team League PPR
Starters: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex (WR/RB/TE)

QB: Wentz, Rivers
RB: Jamaal Williams, Justice Hill, Gio Bernard, Edmonds, Hines,
WR: Adams, Juju, Evans, Josh Gordon, Reynolds, Arcega-Whiteside
TE: Njoku, Goedert, Sternberger

Taxi: R. Ridley, Ty Johnson, D. Ozigbo
Picks:
2020: 5 1sts
2021: 5 1sts

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby Never Veto » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:19 am

pmart33 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:52 am
Never Veto wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:47 am
I'm not sure this is actually that good of return on investment. You spent the 1.06 to get him, and I'm assuming you are hoping to do well and get far in the payoffs so if that works out the 1st will be a higher pick. So then you will have traded the 1.06 for say the 1.10-1.12 next year plus a 2nd and 3rd. So it's basically a break even. The only way you win that trade is if your team does middle of the road or worse. I also think the trade hurts your depth and ability to win this year, however if you can get DeSean Jackson or someone like that for the 2020 3rd I would give it a shot.
In most years I think people would agree with your assessment. But I think many in the dynasty community feel that a late 2020 1st alone is more valuable than 1.06 in this years draft. Whether that works out or not remains to be seen, but it seems like the 2020 hype is running rampant, and has been for awhile now.
I get it, but that hype happens every single year, every year, next years draft is going to be amaze balls.
20 Team Superflex (1/2 PPR / 6pt TD's)
11 Starters - QB 1(2), RB 2(4), WR 2(5), TE 2(3)


QB - Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins, Andrew Luck
RB - Kenyan Drake, Rashaad Penny, Royce Freeman, Malcolm Brown, Wayne Gallman
WR - Odell Bechkam Jr, Adam Thielen, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Kenny Golladay, Curtis Samuel
TE - Zach Ertz, OJ Howard
IR - Jerrick McKinnon
PS - Jarrett Stidham, Gary Jennings,
Record 21-5

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby McCafsteez » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:55 am

Thank you everyone for the input. It is a tough call because the return on investment seems a little shaky as some of you mentioned. (The positioning of my 2020 first and lacking depth)

What if he took out the 2020 3rd and threw in a depth WR?

His WR I think would replace the 2020 3rd nicely include the following:

Hamilton
Kirk (Which I don't think he would do)
Watkins
Couee
Chark
Washington

So I would counter with Robinson for 2020 1st, 2020 2nd and one of the guys above.

Thoughts?
Team 1 (Dynasty)

12 Team PPR (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2 FLEX, K, DL, LB, DB)

QB: Watson, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, McCarron, B. Allen
RB: Chubb, Cook, Mack, White, Hines, Hilliard
WR: Evans, JuJu, DJ Moore, M. Williams, A. Robinson, J. Ross, D. Moore, J. Grant, D Cain, Conley, Agholor
TE: Engram, Waller, Hurst
K: Crosby
DL: Cameron Heyward
LB: Corey Littleton, Zach Cunningham
DB: Landon Collins, Jabrill Peppers

Draft Picks:
2020: 2, 2
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4


Team 2 (Start-Up)


12 Team PPR (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, FLEX K, DST, 7 Bench)

QB: Rodgers,Murray
RB: Elliot, Chubb,Guice, Edmonds
WR: Hopkins, DJ Moore, Fitzgerald, Davis, T. Williams, Landry
TE: Kittle, Hockenson
K: Badgley
DEF: N.O. Saints

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby nicktahoes » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:56 pm

I definitely would take a first for him. I don't value him like a vast majority out there.
Team 1:
PPR--QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, Superflex, Flex, RB/TE only flex.
QBs: Watson, Wilson, Lock, Taysom
RBs: Kamara, Coleman, Breida, Penny, Ballage, Laird, Jamaal Williams, DWashington, Pollard,
WRs: Beckham, Adams, JuJu, Cooks, Boyd, KeKe, John Brown, DK, Parris
TEs: Kelce, Engram, Witte , Brate, Thomas

Team 2: (Just Players of Note)
PPR--QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, Superflex, Flex, Flex
QBs:Brees, Cousins, Driskle, Prescott, Ryan,
RBs: MalBrown, Clement, Gordon, Ingram, JustinJackson, Jacobs, Samuels, Jamaal Williams,
WRs: Edelman, Evans, AJGreen, Hurns, Julio, Thielen, Westbrook
TEs: Brate, Ertz, Delanie, Witten

Team 3 (Just Players of Note)
PPR--QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, Superflex, Flex, Defense
QBs: Lamar, Carr, Mariotta, Rudolph, Driskel
RBs: McCaffrey, Kerryon, Guice, Jamaal Williams, McKissick
WRs: Keenan, Tate, Lockett, Cobb, Crowder
TEs: Kittle, Brate, Kroft

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby ESKAY » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:48 am

If he is going to add Coutee or Watkins to the deal I would do it for sure. Washington would be my third. choice but I would still pull the trigger. As far as the 2020 hype goes you can see how Jonathan Taylor’s night was.

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Re: Allen Robinson Trade

Postby Never Veto » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:43 am

Just to be clear I’m not saying I wouldn’t take the deal I’m just saying the deal is a wash. If you can flip the 3rd for a vet to get more depth I say go for it.
20 Team Superflex (1/2 PPR / 6pt TD's)
11 Starters - QB 1(2), RB 2(4), WR 2(5), TE 2(3)


QB - Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins, Andrew Luck
RB - Kenyan Drake, Rashaad Penny, Royce Freeman, Malcolm Brown, Wayne Gallman
WR - Odell Bechkam Jr, Adam Thielen, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Kenny Golladay, Curtis Samuel
TE - Zach Ertz, OJ Howard
IR - Jerrick McKinnon
PS - Jarrett Stidham, Gary Jennings,
Record 21-5


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