Is this trade BS?

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Is this trade BS?

Postby colt77 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:24 am

12 man ppr
Team 1 Team 2
Gives: Bell, Beasley, Fourth round Pick (low) Gives: Melvin Gordon, DeDe Westbrook, 1st Round Pick (Projected Top 3)

The leagues thinks the trade is BS, but we can't prove collusion. It'll go through, but I wanted to gauge your guys thoughts.
12 Man SF 2point TE Premium PPR 6pt passing Tds - Lineup req. - Qb, 2 Rbs, 3 Wrs, 1 TE, 2 Flex, SF, K, D
Qbs: Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence
Rbs: Barkley, Breece Hall, Javonte Williams, Swift, Jamaal Williams
Wrs: Deebo Samuel, Olave, Diontae Johnson, Odell, Bateman, Nico Collins
TEs: Kyle Pitts, Higbee, Kittle, Okonkwo
K: Gay
D: -Steelers

12 Man 1 QB PPR - Lineup req. - Qb, 2 Rbs, 2 Wrs, 1 TE, 2 Flex, K, D 2021 -Picks- 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.01, 3.04
Qbs: Lamar Jackson, Hurts, Tua
Rbs: Barkley, Swift, Akers, Gus Edwards, Henderson, Lindsey, Rhamondre Stevenson
Wrs: Michael Thomas, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Bateman, Odell Beckham, Tee Higgins, Cooper Kupp, Nico Collins
TEs: Kittle, Pitts, Jacob Harris
K: Butker

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby jab3120 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:27 am

I call BS, Bell = MG or close sure MG value is wonky cause of holdout, Beasley < Westbrook, 4th < 1st. Hmmmm nothing close sept the RBs to being close to a real deal
10 Team Non-PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1 DEF (Return Yds *25 yds per 1pt & Ret TD's only count for the player)

QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid, T.Kraft
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,

IR: J.K. Dobbins
IR: E.Hull
IR: K.Mitchell
IR: R.Stevenson

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Goddard » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:35 am

Not a great trade, but not sure what you can do about it. I can see a Gordon owner getting nervous if they're trying to compete and overpay for what they think will be a top 5 RB.

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Paul717 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:37 am

Sounds like one dude is super scared of an extended Gordon holdout. Pretend, you knew that Gordon was going to hold out all year. Is it still lopsided? But just playing devil's advocate here. Seems a bit lopsided.
"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 :cry: , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:40 am

Goddard wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:35 am Not a great trade, but not sure what you can do about it. I can see a Gordon owner getting nervous if they're trying to compete and overpay for what they think will be a top 5 RB.
Agreed, could have something to do with the Gordon holdout. Nothing you can do.

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby collbey » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:46 am

Don't see this as BS, the Melvin owner is risk adverse.

Is the 1st from the team who is trading for Bell? Still will be top 3 with Bell?

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:49 am

seems like an incredibly fair deal that favors the new gordon owner if gordon plays a good bit of the season and gets a contract and his value doesnt go into a free fall.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Mjvb5 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:34 pm

Even though we can say in a vacuum Gordon=Bell. There's no way in hell I'd make that swap as a contending team with Bell without getting something substantial coming back my way with all the uncertainty on MG3. Would I make this no, but its definitely not BS

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby briank » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:35 pm

colt77 wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:24 am 12 man ppr
Team 1 Team 2
Gives: Bell, Beasley, Fourth round Pick (low) Gives: Melvin Gordon, DeDe Westbrook, 1st Round Pick (Projected Top 3)

The leagues thinks the trade is BS, but we can't prove collusion. It'll go through, but I wanted to gauge your guys thoughts.
No collusion. That is the only thing that matters.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby RB6 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:36 pm

Bad trade. Get over it.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby notweswelker » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:42 pm

Fair trade in my eyes. Bell is the safer bet this season. If you're trying to win the ship this year I can totally buy paying a small premium to go from MG3 to Bell. MG3 may sit for weeks/months.

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby afrye1 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:44 pm

I don’t like the trade personally but it’s not something I would get mad at. As long as it’s not collusion move on and try to make your own deals.
Team 1
Start 1 QB 2RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 flex 1 SF
QB: L.JACKSON WILSON Mayfield Mac Jones Trevor siemien Mike White
RB: BARKLEY A.JONES Aj Dillion James Robinson Mike Davis gaskin Lindsey rojo drake ozigbo n.hines Doaks Herbert eno Benjamin
WR: T.HILL Diggs NUK McLaurin Gallup P.Williams Allen lazard MVS Bowden Van Jefferson D.Harris Q.cephus, Darby
TE: KITTLE Evan Engram RSJ hunter long

6 pts for TD full PPR .25 PPC 1 pt per 10 rushing/receiving yards 1 pt per 20 passing yards

Team 2
10 team PPR league
4 pt passing td. 6 pt for all other TD.
QB: DAK, Matt Ryan, Taysom Hill
RB: Chubb, Miles Sanders, James Robinson Akers, T.coleman, Royce Freeman,Chase Edmonds, Ryquell Armstead, Joshua Kelly, L.perine,
WR: MT, Tyreek Hill, Godwin, JUJU, Mclaurin, M.Brown, Sterling Shepard, Preston Williams, PLazard, John Ross, Trequan Smith,Harmon, Ruggs, T.Higgins
TE: Kittle, Hunter Henry,OJ Howard,
K: Butker
DEF: Colts Packers Browns
start: 1 QB 2 WR 2 RB 1TE 2 flex
2021: 2x 1sts
2022: 3rd, 4th

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby colt77 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:52 pm

collbey wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:46 am Don't see this as BS, the Melvin owner is risk adverse.

Is the 1st from the team who is trading for Bell? Still will be top 3 with Bell?
Yes, his starting Wrs rn are Enunwa and Edelman. Edelman is obviously good but for those two to be your 1 and 2 then downgrade on wr in this trade it looks bad.
12 Man SF 2point TE Premium PPR 6pt passing Tds - Lineup req. - Qb, 2 Rbs, 3 Wrs, 1 TE, 2 Flex, SF, K, D
Qbs: Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence
Rbs: Barkley, Breece Hall, Javonte Williams, Swift, Jamaal Williams
Wrs: Deebo Samuel, Olave, Diontae Johnson, Odell, Bateman, Nico Collins
TEs: Kyle Pitts, Higbee, Kittle, Okonkwo
K: Gay
D: -Steelers

12 Man 1 QB PPR - Lineup req. - Qb, 2 Rbs, 2 Wrs, 1 TE, 2 Flex, K, D 2021 -Picks- 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.01, 3.04
Qbs: Lamar Jackson, Hurts, Tua
Rbs: Barkley, Swift, Akers, Gus Edwards, Henderson, Lindsey, Rhamondre Stevenson
Wrs: Michael Thomas, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Bateman, Odell Beckham, Tee Higgins, Cooper Kupp, Nico Collins
TEs: Kittle, Pitts, Jacob Harris
K: Butker

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby abloom » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:55 pm

trade looks perfectly fine.

Bell > Gordon (until hold out is over)
Westbrook > Beasley
1st > 3rd

It ultimately comes down to how long Gordon's holdout is, and where he gets his next contract. Trade makes sense to me.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:56 pm

If I was a Bell believer and was also contending with depth I don't think its absurd and certainly not something that would get my panties in a bunch in my league.

If Gordon holds out all year are people going to change their mind?
SF PPR 30 man roster 5 taxi 2 IR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 2TE, 2FLEX , Superflex

A. Rodgers, J. Goff, D. Lock, Ta. Hill

O. Beckham, Antonio Brown, M. Evans, A. Robinson, S. Diggs, C. Sutton, T. Boyd, Jakobi Meyers, S. Sims Jr., Darius Slayton

S. Barkley, Da. Cook, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, R. Penny, Ronald Jones, W. Gallman, Duke Johnson, AJ Dillon, Darrynton Evans, DeeJay Dallas, L. Perine

G. Kittle, M. Andrews, H. Hurst

Taxi: R. Armstead, Joe Reed, L. Bowden Jr., I. Coulter, Scotty Miller

2021 - 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th


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