Is this trade BS?

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Is this trade BS?

Postby colt77 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:24 am

12 man ppr
Team 1 Team 2
Gives: Bell, Beasley, Fourth round Pick (low) Gives: Melvin Gordon, DeDe Westbrook, 1st Round Pick (Projected Top 3)

The leagues thinks the trade is BS, but we can't prove collusion. It'll go through, but I wanted to gauge your guys thoughts.

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby jab3120 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:27 am

I call BS, Bell = MG or close sure MG value is wonky cause of holdout, Beasley < Westbrook, 4th < 1st. Hmmmm nothing close sept the RBs to being close to a real deal
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RB: L.Fournette, N.Chubb, M.Mack, D.Henry, K.Hunt, D.Lewis, R.Armstead, D.Washington, D.Williams(IR)
WR: M.Thomas, D.Adams, J.Jones, M.Williams, J.Edelman, P.Campbell(IR), H.Butler(IR)
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Goddard » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:35 am

Not a great trade, but not sure what you can do about it. I can see a Gordon owner getting nervous if they're trying to compete and overpay for what they think will be a top 5 RB.

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Paul717 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:37 am

Sounds like one dude is super scared of an extended Gordon holdout. Pretend, you knew that Gordon was going to hold out all year. Is it still lopsided? But just playing devil's advocate here. Seems a bit lopsided.
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:40 am

Goddard wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:35 am
Not a great trade, but not sure what you can do about it. I can see a Gordon owner getting nervous if they're trying to compete and overpay for what they think will be a top 5 RB.
Agreed, could have something to do with the Gordon holdout. Nothing you can do.
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TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby collbey » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:46 am

Don't see this as BS, the Melvin owner is risk adverse.

Is the 1st from the team who is trading for Bell? Still will be top 3 with Bell?

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:49 am

seems like an incredibly fair deal that favors the new gordon owner if gordon plays a good bit of the season and gets a contract and his value doesnt go into a free fall.
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Mjvb5 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:34 pm

Even though we can say in a vacuum Gordon=Bell. There's no way in hell I'd make that swap as a contending team with Bell without getting something substantial coming back my way with all the uncertainty on MG3. Would I make this no, but its definitely not BS
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby briank » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:35 pm

colt77 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:24 am
12 man ppr
Team 1 Team 2
Gives: Bell, Beasley, Fourth round Pick (low) Gives: Melvin Gordon, DeDe Westbrook, 1st Round Pick (Projected Top 3)

The leagues thinks the trade is BS, but we can't prove collusion. It'll go through, but I wanted to gauge your guys thoughts.
No collusion. That is the only thing that matters.
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RB: Mixon, A. Jones, Miller, Jamaal Williams, Edwards, Bernard, Gallman, Pollard, AP
WR: Hopkins, Thomas, DJ Moore, Jeffery, Preston Williams, Ginn, Perriman
TE: Ertz, Cook, Gesicki, Hurst
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby RB6 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:36 pm

Bad trade. Get over it.
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QB: Watson, Wilson, Tannehill, Lock, Grier
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Deebo, Pascal, S. Sims
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Boone, Gaskin
TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Higbee
Devy: Tua, Reagor, Akers

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WR: Nuk, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, A. Miller, Pascal, A. Tate, Hamilton, Gage, Perriman, S. Sims, ESB
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TE: Andrews, Herndon, Dissly, Moreau

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RB: Fournette, KJ, Breida, Hines, D. Freeman, C. Thompson, Hilliard, Laird, Adams
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby notweswelker » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:42 pm

Fair trade in my eyes. Bell is the safer bet this season. If you're trying to win the ship this year I can totally buy paying a small premium to go from MG3 to Bell. MG3 may sit for weeks/months.

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby afrye1 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:44 pm

I don’t like the trade personally but it’s not something I would get mad at. As long as it’s not collusion move on and try to make your own deals.
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QB: L.JACKSON WILSON Mayfield Darnold
RB: BARKLEY A.JONES LINDSAY Brieda D.Williams rojo duke n.hines miles gaskin
WR: NUK T.HILL Diggs Cooks Gallup Pettis t.mclaurin Desean Hamilton k.harmon Allen lazard tim patrick
TE: KITTLE Evan Engram Kyle Rudolph

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QB: DAK Matt Ryan, Trubisky
RB: T.coleman, Royce Freeman,Chase Edmonds, Ryquell Armstead miles Gaskin
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TE: Kittle, Hunter Henry,Hooper OJ Howard,
K: Butker
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby colt77 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:52 pm

collbey wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:46 am
Don't see this as BS, the Melvin owner is risk adverse.

Is the 1st from the team who is trading for Bell? Still will be top 3 with Bell?
Yes, his starting Wrs rn are Enunwa and Edelman. Edelman is obviously good but for those two to be your 1 and 2 then downgrade on wr in this trade it looks bad.

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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby abloom » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:55 pm

trade looks perfectly fine.

Bell > Gordon (until hold out is over)
Westbrook > Beasley
1st > 3rd

It ultimately comes down to how long Gordon's holdout is, and where he gets his next contract. Trade makes sense to me.
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WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
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Re: Is this trade BS?

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:56 pm

If I was a Bell believer and was also contending with depth I don't think its absurd and certainly not something that would get my panties in a bunch in my league.

If Gordon holds out all year are people going to change their mind?
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