I'd rather keep Aaron Jones, and start those 4 RBs if I was you. I think he's primed to blow up this season (Barring health), and could be in the conversation for a first round redraft pick next season, which would mean he's worth at least a 2020 1st and then some.
Jones is one of the most efficient RBs in the league, if he gets the touches, he has a chance to springboard into becoming a top 5-8 RB. I think you're selling him short.
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Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
Aaron Jones has some serious upside in that offense, I'd keep those two assets and see if you cant make a push this year.
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Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
if theres anything i have learned from my title winning teams its that depth is key, especially at rb. never assume your starting lineup is the same week 1 thru week 16. you dont want to crush the comp all season just to have 2 of your rbs hobbled week 13 and be caught without a plan because you tried to chase value before the season began. lets say that rb you take next year is better than jones, would he not still most likely be your rb4 and be depth? but at the cost of not having had that depth during your title run the prior season...Jcedwards wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:28 amI agree with most of what you are saying. I definitely have a win now team, so it is nice having those 2 on my team for depth. But they are also only depth right now, so I may not ever have to use them (Jones will probably see my starting lineup this year at some point). That 2020 1st could be early and I could draft a RB early next year that could be even better than Jones. I do get what your saying though.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:16 am keep what you have. you are win now as hell and a pick next year and a rookie wr dont benefit you as much as a great rb in a top offense and a 2nd year wr with little comp for targets, who also in theory go an upgrade at qb (depending who you ask i suppose).
this is something i have to hammer home on this forum often, WE PLAY TO WIN. we do not play to see who has the most value, who wins a trade long term, or to brag that we are a pretty good team each year. we play to win the title, the cash, and the glory.
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Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
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Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
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Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
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12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
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Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
this is a fair point in that late season if needing to fill a hole an early 2020 1st will be a very appealing piece that cannot get injured or lose value between now and then.Goddard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:21 amI don't think trading his RB4 and WR7 are really going to hinder his chances of winning it all. Those guys will probably barely see his starting lineup. You always take value and then can trade for need again. I'd bet an early 2020 1st and AJ Brown will get him a better RB than Jones if you're worried about him losing that depth.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:16 am keep what you have. you are win now as hell and a pick next year and a rookie wr dont benefit you as much as a great rb in a top offense and a 2nd year wr with little comp for targets, who also in theory go an upgrade at qb (depending who you ask i suppose).
this is something i have to hammer home on this forum often, WE PLAY TO WIN. we do not play to see who has the most value, who wins a trade long term, or to brag that we are a pretty good team each year. we play to win the title, the cash, and the glory.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
Thanks everyone for the input so far. Anyone else think I should/ shouldn’t do the trade?
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Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
I would do it. But I also would try to swap out to Campbell and Darwin.
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Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
He seems set on keeping Parris and Thompson. I like Brown’s talent, but just don’t like the Titans offense as a whole. Plus, I don’t know what to think about Barber. Don’t really like having to have him as my RB4 (even though he is the starter in TB). Trying to see if any other pieces can be substituted instead of Barber.
I should be a strong contender this year. I shouldn’t need to count on Jones too much with the 3 RBs in front of him and the WRs that I can plug in. However, if 1 or 2 of my RBs go down, I could be in trouble at RB without him. The likelihood that the 1st is early-mid is making it difficult to decide. I can draft Jones’ replacement with that pick next year, but I’m just worried about my depth this year if I trade him.
I should be a strong contender this year. I shouldn’t need to count on Jones too much with the 3 RBs in front of him and the WRs that I can plug in. However, if 1 or 2 of my RBs go down, I could be in trouble at RB without him. The likelihood that the 1st is early-mid is making it difficult to decide. I can draft Jones’ replacement with that pick next year, but I’m just worried about my depth this year if I trade him.
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Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
Finding a RB4 shouldn't be that difficult if one of your players gets hurts...especially when you gain valuable trade assets by making this move. I think you're overthinking it if your main concern is your RB4. If you don't like the value, that's a different issue, but you can always trade for need later if injuries occur. Teams are gonna fall out of contention at some point and look to move good players for young players or draft picks, both of which you'll have.Jcedwards wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:20 pm He seems set on keeping Parris and Thompson. I like Brown’s talent, but just don’t like the Titans offense as a whole. Plus, I don’t know what to think about Barber. Don’t really like having to have him as my RB4 (even though he is the starter in TB). Trying to see if any other pieces can be substituted instead of Barber.
I should be a strong contender this year. I shouldn’t need to count on Jones too much with the 3 RBs in front of him and the WRs that I can plug in. However, if 1 or 2 of my RBs go down, I could be in trouble at RB without him. The likelihood that the 1st is early-mid is making it difficult to decide. I can draft Jones’ replacement with that pick next year, but I’m just worried about my depth this year if I trade him.
Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
I wouldn’t say that my main concern is my RB4. I don’t think the value is even on the trade. Although Barber is the starting RB in TB, I don’t think he is worth much. That backfield is a mess That’s one reason why I have been trying to get a better RB/ one with more upside in this trade, but he seems to want to keep some of his other RBs. Seems to me the only ones that he is willing to talk on/ might be willing to talk on is Barber, Rojo, Ballage, And Rodney Anderson. I don’t think any of them tip the scale for me. Maybe I’m just too high on Jones.
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Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
Well I waited too long. I wasn’t sold on Barber, so I’ve been inquiring on other RBs coming back to me. Might would have went back and accepted the original offer, but he either got impatient or simply had a better offer come along. Oh well. Thanks for the input everyone.
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Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
I would not accept the deal as is. If you can get Campbell + Thompson + 2020 1st, that would be an instant accept.
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Re: A Jones and Sutton for 2020 1st+
Thanks. Even though Barber is the starter right now, I feel like he has no value whatsoever, so I was looking for a better piece coming back than Barber, because I didn't feel the value was fair for my 2 guys. He wouldn't trade Thompson or Campbell (which I would have done it no questions asked if he included those 2). Wouldn't even really consider adding anyone, so we couldn't come to terms. He ended up trading the 1st in another package.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:39 amI would not accept the deal as is. If you can get Campbell + Thompson + 2020 1st, that would be an instant accept.
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