Kyler for Baker?

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Re: Kyler for Baker?

Postby frisco86 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:40 pm

Baker vs Slider. I like the extra points for running, but the diminutive Kyler probably won't finish the season. Maybe he will. But Mayfield is proven.
QB: Rivers/b], Mayfield, (J Brissett 6.12)
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Chubb, (drafted, Breida 1.12, Mattison 2.11, J Samuels 2.12)
WR: AJG, K Allen, Gordon, D Adams, J Ross, JuJu, Westbrook, C Godwin
TE: Engram, (V McDonald 3.12)
K: Lutz 5.12
Def.: (Cleveland 4.12)

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No PPR. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB,WR,TE) 1K 1 1 Def
Drop 7 ea yr. 20 player roster with up to 2 IR

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Re: Kyler for Baker?

Postby Smoking Guns » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:43 pm

Baker , as The Big Spank pointed out Kyler couldn’t beat him out in college and not enough has changed since then. Plus the weapons Cleveland has.

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Re: Kyler for Baker?

Postby Openmountain » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:43 pm

I’ll take Baker because he has stud WR’s and 2 stud RB’s while Arizona has Fitz and Kirk but unproven rookies. DJ is a stud to but Beckham is really good and in his prime along with Landry. Hunt and Chubb is a scary combo. So As of now I’ll roll with Baker.
Team 1 10 Team League
QB Watson, Wilson, Prescott, Haskins
RB Mixon, Guice, Carson, Cook, Penny, Mattison, Bernard, A Peterson, Love
WR JuJu, Lockett, A Miller, Funchess, Hardman, Campbell, McLaurin, D Hamilton
TE Hockenson, Fant, Dissly
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DST Seahawks, Saints, Jaguars

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Re: Kyler for Baker?

Postby ghetto pimp » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:15 pm

I absolutely love Kyler - but I would take Baker as things stand right now.

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Re: Kyler for Baker?

Postby PTW32 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:05 am

Baker pretty easy for me
12 Team PPR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 2Flex

QB: Lamar Jackson, Aaron Rodgers, Jameis Winston
RB: Dalvin Cook, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Royce Freeman, TJ Yeldon, Darwin Thompson, Alexander Mattison, Traveon Williams, Miles Gaskin, Bryce Love,
WR: Odell Beckham Jr., Chris Godwin, Kenny Golladay, Larry Fitzgerald, Jamison Crowder, Keke Coutee, Miles Boykin, Equanimeous St. Brown, Josh Doctson, Antonio Callaway
TE: Travis Kelce, George Kittle, O.J. Howard, Kahale Warring

2020 Picks: none


10 Team PPR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex, 1K
QB: Baker Mayfeild, Big Ben
RB: Latavius Murray, Gio Bernard, Justin Jackson, Adrian Peterson
WR: Stefan Diggs, Allen Robinson, Dante Pettis, DK Metcalf, Deon Cain, TreQuan Smith, Diontae Johnson, Miles Boykin, Keelan Cole, Jalen Hurd, Jamison Crowder, Andy Isabella
TE: David Njoku, Mark Andrews, Delanie Walker

2020 Picks: 1,1,1,1, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: Kyler for Baker?

Postby Bigrig24 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:27 am

Baker over Murray all day for me. Murray is going to run all right. He is going to run for his life. That OL in Arizona is just down right awful.
Team 1 - 12 team PPR - 20 man roster
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 FLEX

QB - D.Brees/J.Garoppolo
RB - S.Barkley/D.Cook/T.Cohen/M.Davis
WR - D.Adams/A.J Green/J.Landry/T.Lockett/M.Lee
TE - G.Kittle/G.Olsen

2020 draft picks: 1,3,4,4

Team 2 - 12 team PPR Super flex
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1 SF/Flex

QB - A.Luck/C.Wentz/D.Prescott
RB - T.Gurley/T.Coleman/J.White/C.Thompson/R.Jones/D.Singletary/Jay Ajayi,
M.Weber
WR - A.Cooper/B.Cooks/T.Boyd/D.Samuel/A.Miller/E.Sanders,
D.Robinson/D.Parker
TE - C.Herndon/J.Doyle

2020 Picks 1,1,3,3

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Re: Kyler for Baker?

Postby Vcize » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:25 am

I'm surprised by people saying Baker is "a bird in the hand" or "totally proven".

Baker had a great season for a rookie. He did not have a great season for fantasy football. He still has to take a BIG step to be a top fantasy asset. Given his lack of rushing numbers he still has to jump all the way from his rookie 3700/27 numbers to something like 5000/40 to be an elite fantasy asset, and that is a big jump.

Not saying he won't do it, but it's still very much a question as to whether or not he'll ever be as good a QB as someone like Aaron Rodgers, which is what he has to improve to to be a top fantasy asset.
Team 1 (12 team FFPC)
QB: Wentz
RB: Cook, A Jones, Mixon, Kerryon, Hunt, Hill, Drake
WR: OBJ, Lockett, ARob, Woods, ARob, Preston
TE: Howard, Cook, Goedert, Njoku, Knox

Team 2 (12 team PPR, q/r/r/w/w/w/f/t/k/d)
QB: Wilson, Dak
RB: Fournette, Kamara, Michel, Kerryon, Blount
WR: Beckham, Thielen, Enunwa, M Williams, Beasely, Amendola
TE: Eifert, Hooper, Gesicki

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Re: Kyler for Baker?

Postby kmbryant09 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:06 am

Vcize wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:25 am
I'm surprised by people saying Baker is "a bird in the hand" or "totally proven".

Baker had a great season for a rookie. He did not have a great season for fantasy football. He still has to take a BIG step to be a top fantasy asset. Given his lack of rushing numbers he still has to jump all the way from his rookie 3700/27 numbers to something like 5000/40 to be an elite fantasy asset, and that is a big jump.

Not saying he won't do it, but it's still very much a question as to whether or not he'll ever be as good a QB as someone like Aaron Rodgers, which is what he has to improve to to be a top fantasy asset.
In fairness, he was on-pace for 4,330 yards and 33 TDs during his 13 starts (he sat on the bench for the first 2.5 weeks of the season).

With Hue Jackson around for half of those starts.

The team added the best WR in the league this off-season.

I'm not saying he's a lock for 5,000 / 40, but I like his chances to be a top5 fantasy QB for the next decade.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: K. Murray, B. Mayfield, K. Cousins
RB: D Johnson, M. Mack, P. Lindsay, C. Edmonds, M. Walton, G. Bernard, D. Thompson, T. Pollard, M. Davis, R. Bonnafan
WR: O. Beckham Jr., K. Allen, C. Godwin, A. Robinson, C. Kirk, D. Johnson, A. Wilson, R. Higgins, D. Robinson
TE: E. Engram, D. Waller, I. Smith Jr.

2020 Picks: (2x) 1, (2x) 3, 4
2021 Picks: (2x) 1, 3, 4


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