KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

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KJ
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Jones and Miller
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49%
 
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KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby Skelly11 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:18 pm

Been offered Jones and Lamar Miller for KJ. Second team in signature. Would you do it?
10 man Dynasty 0.5 pt PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex

QB: Wentz, Jones, Geno, Willis, Ridder
RB: CMC, Zeke, Ekeler, Hunt, M Davis, J Wilson, E. Mitchell, McKinnon
WR: Cooks, Tyreek, Diontae Johnson, Julio, Watkins, Boyd, D. Parker, MVS, Gage, Cobb, Thornton
TE: Engram, Tonyan, Dissly, J. Johnson

12 Team Dynasty, 0.5 PPR, TE Premium
2QB, 3RB, 4WR, 2TE, 2 Flex

QB: Mahomes, Tannehill, Foles, Willis, Ehlinger, Howell, Corral, Darnold
RB: Ekeler, Aaron Jones, Hunt, G. Bernard, J Wilson, Haskins, K. Williams
WR: Tyreek, Kupp, MT, Cooks, Watkins, N’Keal, Parker, Gage, Claypool, Doubs, Dyami, Skowronek, Blackshear
TE: Gronk, Uzomah, Dissly, Hendershot, Stoll

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:19 pm

I would hold Johnson for long term value.

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby mwlviper » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:28 pm

I’m holding KJ all day. Miller is not relevant after 2019 imo, and Aaron Jones isn’t the answer in GB to me.
Team 1: 16 team 1 QB .5 PPR League
QB's: J. Allen
RB's: J. Mixon, J. Jacobs, M. Sanders, R. Jones, K. Ballage
WR's: D.J. Chark, W. Fuller, C. Ridley, J. Reagor, P. Campbell, R. Cobb, N. Agholor, J. Washington, M. Valdes-Scantling, C. Samuel, A. Isabella, T. Patrick, R. Gage
TE's: H. Henry, D. Goedert, I. Thomas

2021 Picks: (1) 1st, (2) 2nd, (1) 3rd


Team 2: 16 team 1 QB .5 PPR League
QB's: A. Rodgers, J. Garoppolo
RB's: A. Kamara, R. Jones, M. Gordon, L. Murray, L. McCoy, D. Booker, C. Clement
WR's: A. Robinson, D.J. Moore, R. Woods, A.J. Green, T.Y. Hilton, G. Ward, L. Shenault, J. Hurd, C. Sims, D. Cain
TE's: T. Kelce, D. Knox

2021 Picks: (1) 3rd

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby HughHoney » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:05 pm

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby jcc6fd » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:17 pm

The trade gives you a better starting lineup. How competitive do you feel? If you don’t feel like a strong contender I might hold. However Jones could ha e more value than KJ alone by season’s end
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby ninotoreS » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:21 pm

I like A. Jones, but the KJ side for me, and it's not a hard decision.
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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby RB6 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:00 am

KJ all day.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby FuzzySignificance » Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:02 am

I really like the move with these deep lineup settings. You've got some aging centerpieces and look to be set up well to contend now. Make the trade, make the run and just be sure to stay keenly aware of where your team stands so that you can capitalize on moving those aging assets later in the year if your team is under performing.
12 team ppr, 1 qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 te, 2 flex
QB: Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, Le'Veon Bell, Kerryon Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ronald Jones, Darwin Thompson
WR: Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen, Antonio Brown, Will Fuller, DeDe Westbrook, Robby Anderson, Marquise Goodwin, Justin Watson, Albert Wilson, Greg Dortch
TE: Travis Kelce, Vance McDonald, Kyle Rudolph, Delanie Walker, Ian Thomas, Gerald Everett

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:51 am

i have jones above kj so ill take a free lamar miller without competition
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby Goddard » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:33 am

If you needed the depth, maybe...but I think you're better off holding onto KJ for now. Pretty fair though.

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:01 am

I'm probably in the minority, but I'd take Jones over Kerryon straight up, so getting Miller for free is a slam dunk accept.
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby ninotoreS » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:08 pm

KJ vs Jones

- both had analytically strong seasons last year
- both have durability question marks
- both will be sharing touches to some extent
- KJ has significant draft capital invested in him, Jones does not
- KJ is much more likely to catch 60+ passes, and OP is half-ppr
- the Bevell hire is promising for KJ

Jones is good, KJ is good, but there are distinct, tiebreaking elements favoring KJ over Jones.

To prefer Jones requires the belief that he's a clearly superior talent to KJ. That's a very subjective opinion, because you'll have a tough time supporting it analytically.
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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:15 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:08 pm To prefer Jones requires the belief that he's a clearly superior talent to KJ. That's a very subjective opinion, because you'll have a tough time supporting it analytically.
Not necessarily. Even if Jones is the lead back in a committee and unlikely to see >70% of the touches, it could still be more volume than Kerryon in a more run-heavy scheme. I think many are underestimating how involved Anderson and others could be with Patricia wanted to emulate NE's RBBC approach. While Jones's injury history is concerning, the tie breaker for me is more faith in Rodgers + LaFleur over Stafford + Patricia.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby jcc6fd » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:22 pm

I think people are mostly excited about the prospect of Jones getting more time as the featured back (even if there's a committee element) after last year's debacle of using Adams plus injuries.
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QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave

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Re: KJ for Aaron Jones and Miller

Postby thomasscheeks » Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:21 pm

Kerryon by quite a bit.

Aaron Jones isn't the long term answer. Sorry guys..
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RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds

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QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook

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QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
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