What can I get for my entire trade block combined

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What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby FantasyDumDum » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:53 pm

Team in sig. Here is my trade block:

Brees

Drake
Breida
I Smith
Edmonds

Jeffery
Callaway

2019 1.10(several league members had summer travel so we are drafting late)


QUESTION:

What can I realistically get in a trade for all of these pieces combined? Targeting 1 or 2 players, or draft picks
10 team, .5ppr, 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex

QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: CMC, D Williams, Drake, Guice, Penny, RoJo, Breida, I Smith, Edmonds
WR: AB, ARob, Ridley, Jeffery, Shepard, Pettis, Miller, Washington, MVS, Callaway
TE: Kelce, Herndon, Andrews

Taxi Squad:

Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:56 pm

You should be able to add a 2020 1st for those pieces. I think this more depends on what you are looking for and in what tier. Maybe a young upside wr like DJ Moore for all the pieces and your 2019 1st.
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RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Alexander Mattison, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby FantasyDumDum » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:16 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:56 pm
You should be able to add a 2020 1st for those pieces. I think this more depends on what you are looking for and in what tier. Maybe a young upside wr like DJ Moore for all the pieces and your 2019 1st.
Hmmm. According to current Mizelle ADP data, the players on the trade block have a 2019 draft picks value of:
My evaluation in [ ]
Brees(2.05)[4.03]

Drake(1.05)[1.10]
Breida(2.02)[3.02]
I Smith(2.01)[3.03]
Edmonds(2.04)[3.04]

Jeffery(1.08)[2.03]
Callaway(2.05)[3.08]

1.10 (1.10)[1.10]

So that would be the equivalent of, using Mizelle ADP:
1.05, 1.08, 1.10, 2.01, 2.02, 2.04, 2.05, 2.05 for Moore?

Or from my evaluations also coming from many various sources:
1.10, 1.10, 2.03, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04, 3.08, 4.03 for Moore?

Even the second one, which is more realistic, in this year’s draft, would be something like:
Hockenson, Henderson, JJAW, D Johnson, Boykin, Love, Armstead, D Thompson. For Moore? Or a 2020 1st?


Isn’t that insane?
10 team, .5ppr, 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex

QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: CMC, D Williams, Drake, Guice, Penny, RoJo, Breida, I Smith, Edmonds
WR: AB, ARob, Ridley, Jeffery, Shepard, Pettis, Miller, Washington, MVS, Callaway
TE: Kelce, Herndon, Andrews

Taxi Squad:

Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby repkllrs » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:48 pm

The problem with you trying to trade all of that in 1 trade is that whomever your trade partner is, he is going to value some of those pieces not at all. It would be suprising if you could trade that package for full value.
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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby Cherokee » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:16 pm

I would send a Drake + Jeffery offer out to contenders asking for a 2020 1st+ a peice you like.
Ito and Brees arent worth anything of note
And I would hold Breida, Callaway and Edumonds and trade them in-season as all 3 guys will have at least 1 big game at some point
You wont get anywhere near what you're thinking
12 Team IDP PPR
QB- Aaron Rodgers, Dak
RB- Mark Ingram, Tarik Cohen, P. Lindsey, Gus Edwards, Jamaal Williams
WR- Sammy Watkins, Alshon Jeffery, Allen Robinson, Tyler Lockett, J Gordon, Keke Coutee, Geranimo Allison
TE- Travis Kelce, Goedert
LB- Dion Jones, Darius Leonard
DE- JJ Watt
DB- K. Neal
Taxi Squad: Darwin Thompson, Dexter Williams, Justice Hill

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby TimeWillTell » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:18 pm

You can probably get DWill

Oh, you already have him. That's fortunate. But def don't get rid of Drake, he's elite in FPPT as per your thread.
12 Team 1QB 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Wentz, Darnold, Jones
RB: Barkley, Penny, Singletary
WR: Evans, DJ Moore, Davis, Chark, P. Williams, AJB, Pettis, JJAWS
TE: Andrews, Hock, Herndon, J. Smith, Thomas
K: Some guy
Def: NYJ
2020 Picks: 1.01,1.02,1.03,1.04, 1.08, 1.10, 1.12, 2.03, 2.04, 2.09, 2.12

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby RB6 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:41 pm

Trading that many players in one deal is a hard sell. You’re better off piecing it out. Or using them as sweeteners.
Team 1
10 Team Devy SF .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Watson, Wilson, Tannehill, Lock, Grier, Rudolph
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Deebo, Pascal, S. Sims
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Boone, Gaskin
TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Higbee
Devy: Tua, Reagor, Akers

Team 2
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Garoppolo, Darnold
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, G. Tate, A. Miller, Pascal, A. Tate, Hamilton, Gage, Perriman, S. Sims, ESB
RB: Zeke, Jacobs, Carson, Darwin, Armstead, De. Washington, R. Anderson, Homer
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Dissly, Moreau

Team 3
12 Team SF PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Rodgers, Carr, Mullens, Stick
RB: Chubb, Fournette, KJ, D. Freeman, Hunt, C. Thompson, Hilliard, Laird, Adams
WR: Allen, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, G. Tate, Crowder, A. Tate, Pascal, Hamilton, S. Sims, ESB
TE: Andrews, Thomas, Graham

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby FantasyDumDum » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 pm

I never said all the pieces must be together. My response was to a poster saying all the pieces together are worth DJ Moore, when objectively they are worth significantly more.
10 team, .5ppr, 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex

QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: CMC, D Williams, Drake, Guice, Penny, RoJo, Breida, I Smith, Edmonds
WR: AB, ARob, Ridley, Jeffery, Shepard, Pettis, Miller, Washington, MVS, Callaway
TE: Kelce, Herndon, Andrews

Taxi Squad:

Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby RB6 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:26 pm

FantasyDumDum wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 pm
I never said all the pieces must be together. My response was to a poster saying all the pieces together are worth DJ Moore, when objectively they are worth significantly more.
Yes you did. You asked what you could get for all the pieces combined.
Team 1
10 Team Devy SF .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Watson, Wilson, Tannehill, Lock, Grier, Rudolph
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Deebo, Pascal, S. Sims
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Boone, Gaskin
TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Higbee
Devy: Tua, Reagor, Akers

Team 2
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Garoppolo, Darnold
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, G. Tate, A. Miller, Pascal, A. Tate, Hamilton, Gage, Perriman, S. Sims, ESB
RB: Zeke, Jacobs, Carson, Darwin, Armstead, De. Washington, R. Anderson, Homer
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Dissly, Moreau

Team 3
12 Team SF PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Rodgers, Carr, Mullens, Stick
RB: Chubb, Fournette, KJ, D. Freeman, Hunt, C. Thompson, Hilliard, Laird, Adams
WR: Allen, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, G. Tate, Crowder, A. Tate, Pascal, Hamilton, S. Sims, ESB
TE: Andrews, Thomas, Graham

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby jwb32 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:58 am

Cherokee wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:16 pm
I would send a Drake + Jeffery offer out to contenders asking for a 2020 1st+ a peice you like.
Ito and Brees arent worth anything of note
And I would hold Breida, Callaway and Edumonds and trade them in-season as all 3 guys will have at least 1 big game at some point
You wont get anywhere near what you're thinking
I agree with this assessment. Furthermore, adding players like Smith and Callaway won't increase your return and could actually make it more difficult to get a deal done.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Rivers, Jackson
RBs- Mixon, Cook, Sanders, Montgomery, RoJo, Murray, Dexter W, Brian Hill
WRs- OBJ, Hilton, Cooks, Watkins, Crowder, Diontae Johnson, DMoore, Butler
TEs- McDonald, Fant, Waller, Rudolph
2020 1st

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rodgers, Stafford, Foles
RBs- Zeke, Cook, Hunt, Edwards, Armstead,
WRs- Adams, Boyd, Cooks, Samuel, Crowder, Slayton, Lazard, Boykin, Coutee
TEs- Hooper, Howard, Holister, Olsen, Thomas

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rivers,Stafford,Trubisky
RBs- Cook, DWilliams, Coleman, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Evans, Allen, Diggs, Boyd, Sutton, Gallup,Samuel, Preston,Crowder
TEs- Waller,Njoku,Jonnu,Herndon,Moreau
2020 - 1.09,2.09

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby jwb32 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:59 am

RB6 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:26 pm
FantasyDumDum wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 pm
I never said all the pieces must be together. My response was to a poster saying all the pieces together are worth DJ Moore, when objectively they are worth significantly more.
Yes you did. You asked what you could get for all the pieces combined.
That's how I understood it as well.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Rivers, Jackson
RBs- Mixon, Cook, Sanders, Montgomery, RoJo, Murray, Dexter W, Brian Hill
WRs- OBJ, Hilton, Cooks, Watkins, Crowder, Diontae Johnson, DMoore, Butler
TEs- McDonald, Fant, Waller, Rudolph
2020 1st

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rodgers, Stafford, Foles
RBs- Zeke, Cook, Hunt, Edwards, Armstead,
WRs- Adams, Boyd, Cooks, Samuel, Crowder, Slayton, Lazard, Boykin, Coutee
TEs- Hooper, Howard, Holister, Olsen, Thomas

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rivers,Stafford,Trubisky
RBs- Cook, DWilliams, Coleman, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Evans, Allen, Diggs, Boyd, Sutton, Gallup,Samuel, Preston,Crowder
TEs- Waller,Njoku,Jonnu,Herndon,Moreau
2020 - 1.09,2.09

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby prinefan » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:32 am

jwb32 wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:59 am
RB6 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:26 pm
FantasyDumDum wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 pm
I never said all the pieces must be together. My response was to a poster saying all the pieces together are worth DJ Moore, when objectively they are worth significantly more.
Yes you did. You asked what you could get for all the pieces combined.
That's how I understood it as well.
Me too.

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:20 am

This is a nickels for dollar type of thing and though it may appear that their cumulative value is something worthwhile, outside of very large leagues that depth losses value with each added piece you need to get a single valuable piece. As others said it’s hard to do this because the other owner has to take on all that roster space they absolutely don’t have.

So whether you meant it or not, you can’t really have an intelligent conversation about their cumulative value without acknowledging they lose exponential value with each piece you add. Plus trading them in smaller packages won’t yield you the same value in as a single high end piece, unless the stars aligned and you turned 12 small pieces into 4-6 decent ones, and then those 4-6 into the 1-2 good pieces you’re trying to get. Seems highly unlikely
10 Team Half PPR Scoring: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1Flex DST K
QB: Mahomes, Super Cam, Darnold, D. Jones
RB: Gurley, Fournette, Cook, Guice, Lindsay, D. Henderson, Bernard, M. Brown, J. Jackson
WR: Julio, K. Allen, Cooks, TY, Edelman, Ty Williams, MVS
TE: Kelce, Cook, McDonald
IR: B. Love


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