I took over a team last year that was absolutely terrible, made some trades and have a roster full of rookies and maybes (basically a team full of dart throws: D. Henderson, D. Singletary, Boykin, DJ Chalk, M. Lee, R. Foster, bad I know ) and it will be terrible again this year. I do have 4 2020 rnd 1s, 3 2020 2s, and 3 2020 3s. I hate being in rebuild mode, but next years class is really impressive.
So here is my question, do you be patient and wait for the 2020 draft and reload and then wait probably another year, or do you sell the picks and build around some young active players? I love younger WRs as the start of a rebuild and will wait on RBs. What WRs do you target? (DJ Moore, Pettis, etc)
sorry for the long post.... just curious of people's opinion on a rebuild.
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Sick of Being in a Rebuild
The Rebuild: 12tm 1qb PPR, 26man rosters
QB: Herbert, Bridgewater
RB: Pollard, J. Kelley, Singletary, E. Benjamin, Deejay Dallas, Bernard, Justice Hill
WR: Sutton, AJB, C. Ridley, Chark, Diontae Johnson, Allen Robinson, G. Davis, D. Mims, M. Callaway, Q. Chephus, Mooney S. Sims, C. Sims, P. Campbell
TE: Tonyan, Hunter Bryant, Harrison Bryant,
QB: Herbert, Bridgewater
RB: Pollard, J. Kelley, Singletary, E. Benjamin, Deejay Dallas, Bernard, Justice Hill
WR: Sutton, AJB, C. Ridley, Chark, Diontae Johnson, Allen Robinson, G. Davis, D. Mims, M. Callaway, Q. Chephus, Mooney S. Sims, C. Sims, P. Campbell
TE: Tonyan, Hunter Bryant, Harrison Bryant,
Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
Ride it out. Accumulate upside players or more picks. If guys like Singletary, Chark, Lee and Foster have big weeks, grind them into more picks in 2020 or 2021. Hendu is a keeper. I have been through this, scout well and be patient. Look how Adams, Juju and Nuk turned out. I drafted Adams, no one drafted Nuk or Juju coming out in leagues I was in. Patience is so important. There is a lot of satisfaction in taking 2-3 years to build a yearly contender.
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10 team, standard dynasty league, roster 22, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K First Year 2018 runner up
QB- Mahomes, Winston
RB- Drake, Carson, Thompson, Chubb, R Jones, Darrel Williams, Penny, Samuels
WR- Julio, Mike Williams, JUJU, Golladay, DJ Moore, McLaurin, D Johnson
TE- OJ, Hooper
IR- Butler, Guice
TS- D Henderson, J Hill
2020- 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
10 team, standard dynasty league, roster 22, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K First Year 2018 runner up
QB- Mahomes, Winston
RB- Drake, Carson, Thompson, Chubb, R Jones, Darrel Williams, Penny, Samuels
WR- Julio, Mike Williams, JUJU, Golladay, DJ Moore, McLaurin, D Johnson
TE- OJ, Hooper
IR- Butler, Guice
TS- D Henderson, J Hill
2020- 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
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Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
Agreed, keep building, stock piling picks and adding upside young talent where possible. Stay young and patient.mrmagloo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:37 pmRide it out. Accumulate upside players or more picks. If guys like Singletary, Chark, Lee and Foster have big weeks, grind them into more picks in 2020 or 2021. Hendu is a keeper. I have been through this, scout well and be patient. Look how Adams, Juju and Nuk turned out. I drafted Adams, no one drafted Nuk or Juju coming out in leagues I was in. Patience is so important. There is a lot of satisfaction in taking 2-3 years to build a yearly contender.
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Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
I tried to jumpstart my rebuild and it set my rebuild back probably 1-2 years. My advice is be same as the rest, be patient unless a deal you can’t turn down comes across the table
Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
Took over team in sig 3 years ago and havent used a 1st round rookie pick since. It was a terrible team. It has been fun but havent made the playoffs once. Build through the draft. Oh I had 1.12 in the rookie draft once and it traded it on the clock for Josh Gordon. Ended up being David Johnson.
12 Team IDP PPR
QB- Gardner Minshew, Taysom Hill
RB- Tarik Cohen, Aaron Jones, Gus Edwards, Jamaal Williams, Boston Scott
WR- Odell Beckham Jr., Sammy Watkins, Alshon Jeffery, Allen Robinson, Tyler Lockett, Sterling Shedperd
TE- Goedert, Tyler Higbee
LB- Dion Jones, Darius Leonard
DE- TJ Watt
DB- John Johnson
Taxi Squad: Darwin Thompson, Dexter Williams, Justice Hill
Picks 1.06, 2.02, 2.03, 2.10, 3.02
QB- Gardner Minshew, Taysom Hill
RB- Tarik Cohen, Aaron Jones, Gus Edwards, Jamaal Williams, Boston Scott
WR- Odell Beckham Jr., Sammy Watkins, Alshon Jeffery, Allen Robinson, Tyler Lockett, Sterling Shedperd
TE- Goedert, Tyler Higbee
LB- Dion Jones, Darius Leonard
DE- TJ Watt
DB- John Johnson
Taxi Squad: Darwin Thompson, Dexter Williams, Justice Hill
Picks 1.06, 2.02, 2.03, 2.10, 3.02
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Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
I'd see if you can cheaply acquire dante Pettis or Curtis samuel. Maybe even Matt brieda wouldn't give any first rounders. But could help start a bit.
10 Team salary: No PPR, 4pt passing td, 6pt rushing/receiving, 1 pt every 100 yds
Lineup: basically like a NFL lineup
1qb
5 skill positions
Rb: Up to 3 but dont have to start any
Wr: up to 5 but dont have to do any
Te: up to 3 but dont have to do any
Salary Cap: 47.50
QB: Wentz(3@.50) Jimmy G(4@.50), Josh Allen(5@1)
RB: Barkley(6@3.00),James Connor(2@2.70) Mixon(5@1.60), Fournette(5@2.80), Guice(6@2.40), Montgomery(5@2.60),Justice Hill(3@1.00) Alexander Mattinson(3@.5)
WR: OBJ(4@8.70), Adams(4@7.50) DJ Moore(5@1.60), Pettis(3@.50), Deebo(4@.80) Campbell(4@1.20), JJAW(3@.50) Keesean Johnson(3@.5) Sutton(3@.5)
TE: Ertz(1@.5) Will Dissly(3@1.00)
K: Gould, Prater
Def: Browns, Pats
2 round rookie draft
2020
3 firsts, 1 Second
2021
2 firsts, 1 2nd
Lineup: basically like a NFL lineup
1qb
5 skill positions
Rb: Up to 3 but dont have to start any
Wr: up to 5 but dont have to do any
Te: up to 3 but dont have to do any
Salary Cap: 47.50
QB: Wentz(3@.50) Jimmy G(4@.50), Josh Allen(5@1)
RB: Barkley(6@3.00),James Connor(2@2.70) Mixon(5@1.60), Fournette(5@2.80), Guice(6@2.40), Montgomery(5@2.60),Justice Hill(3@1.00) Alexander Mattinson(3@.5)
WR: OBJ(4@8.70), Adams(4@7.50) DJ Moore(5@1.60), Pettis(3@.50), Deebo(4@.80) Campbell(4@1.20), JJAW(3@.50) Keesean Johnson(3@.5) Sutton(3@.5)
TE: Ertz(1@.5) Will Dissly(3@1.00)
K: Gould, Prater
Def: Browns, Pats
2 round rookie draft
2020
3 firsts, 1 Second
2021
2 firsts, 1 2nd
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Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
I would not be opposed to trading picks for young players if you get really good value. I would not be in a rush to do so either. Be patient, accumulate assets. Focus on WR obviously, TE or QB if the right opportunity presents itself.
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Carr
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, David Johnson, R. Penny
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, P. Williams, D. Mims
TE (2): H. Henry, O.J. Howard, I. Thomas, I. Smith Jr, D. Schultz
K (1): Y Koo
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): B. Martinez
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Carr
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, David Johnson, R. Penny
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, P. Williams, D. Mims
TE (2): H. Henry, O.J. Howard, I. Thomas, I. Smith Jr, D. Schultz
K (1): Y Koo
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): B. Martinez
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
Keep building your team!!! You have Darnold and Maholmes set for the next 12-15 years at qb, and Peterman waiting in the wings, lol. Barkley at rb. You need quality wrs and a rb2. Be patient and keep building.
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ppr, 10 team, 6 pt all td, 30 man roster QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Baker, Darnold,
RB- Zeke, Mostert, Hunt, J Robinson, K Johnson, Snell Jr, Pollard, Ingram
WR- OBJ (i.r.), A Cooper, DJ Moore, TY Hilton, D Parker, J Jefferson, AJ Greene, AB, Q Cephus, DP-Jones
TE- Waller, H Henry, Gronk, OJ Howard (i.r.), Albert O (i.r.)
IDP(3)- VanderEsch, B Martinez, P Queen, A Johnson, K Neal
K- J Sanders
ppr, 10 team, 6 pt all td, 30 man roster QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Baker, Darnold,
RB- Zeke, Mostert, Hunt, J Robinson, K Johnson, Snell Jr, Pollard, Ingram
WR- OBJ (i.r.), A Cooper, DJ Moore, TY Hilton, D Parker, J Jefferson, AJ Greene, AB, Q Cephus, DP-Jones
TE- Waller, H Henry, Gronk, OJ Howard (i.r.), Albert O (i.r.)
IDP(3)- VanderEsch, B Martinez, P Queen, A Johnson, K Neal
K- J Sanders
Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
Yeah. Wait it out. Target injured players as the year goes on. Also try to get some back up rbs and or qbs. If they get any opportunity, flip them.
After a season or two in a rebuild, you’ll be surprised at the quality of your team. But be patient with the 2020s. You know they will be at max value when on the clock. You aren’t winning this season so no reason to trade them now. Wait for max value.
After a season or two in a rebuild, you’ll be surprised at the quality of your team. But be patient with the 2020s. You know they will be at max value when on the clock. You aren’t winning this season so no reason to trade them now. Wait for max value.
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Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
Hold your picks. If you're looking to retool a little, I would move David Johnson. I dont think he fits with your timeline and he still has solid value. If you know know you arent competing this season DJ makes no sense for you.
If you really want to retool and build around WRs your build is one of the few I've seen that it might make sense to move Barkley. You could fill out your roster with a few starters and then fill in your RB hole in the 2020 draft.
If you really want to retool and build around WRs your build is one of the few I've seen that it might make sense to move Barkley. You could fill out your roster with a few starters and then fill in your RB hole in the 2020 draft.
Team 1: 14 team dynasty, 25 man roster, keep 14
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, D/ST, K, DL, LB, DE
QB: Ryan, Mayfield
RB: Barkley, CEH, Kelley, Ahmed, Snell
WR: OBJ, Evans, Juju, Moore, Jeudy, Reagor, Corey Davis, Cooks
TE: Kittle, L. Thomas
K: Butker
D/ST: Browns, Bears
DL: Buckner
LB: Kendricks
DB: B. Baker
Team 2: 12 team PPR Salary Cap
QB: Watson, Goff
RB: Barkley, CEH, Gibson, Howard, Perine, Lewis, Ozigbo
WR: Hill, Allen, Boyd, Landry, Sims, DJax, Hamler, Westbrook
TE: Schultz, Ebron, Thomas, Keene, Jarwin
K: Tucker
D/ST: Steelers, Bills
Taxi: Lock, Bryce Love, Higgins
Team 3: 12 team SF
QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Love
RB: AP, Lewis, Perine, JJ Taylor, Vaughn, Mack
WR: Jeudy, Jeffrey, P Williams, Mooney, Cephus, Fitz, Gandy-Golden, Hightower, Swain, Bisi Johnson, Tate
TE: Doyle, Smith, Trautman, Keene, Warring
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, D/ST, K, DL, LB, DE
QB: Ryan, Mayfield
RB: Barkley, CEH, Kelley, Ahmed, Snell
WR: OBJ, Evans, Juju, Moore, Jeudy, Reagor, Corey Davis, Cooks
TE: Kittle, L. Thomas
K: Butker
D/ST: Browns, Bears
DL: Buckner
LB: Kendricks
DB: B. Baker
Team 2: 12 team PPR Salary Cap
QB: Watson, Goff
RB: Barkley, CEH, Gibson, Howard, Perine, Lewis, Ozigbo
WR: Hill, Allen, Boyd, Landry, Sims, DJax, Hamler, Westbrook
TE: Schultz, Ebron, Thomas, Keene, Jarwin
K: Tucker
D/ST: Steelers, Bills
Taxi: Lock, Bryce Love, Higgins
Team 3: 12 team SF
QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Love
RB: AP, Lewis, Perine, JJ Taylor, Vaughn, Mack
WR: Jeudy, Jeffrey, P Williams, Mooney, Cephus, Fitz, Gandy-Golden, Hightower, Swain, Bisi Johnson, Tate
TE: Doyle, Smith, Trautman, Keene, Warring
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Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
hold picks at least until rookie draft of 2020.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
J Allen , Herbert, Rivers
Kamara, B Hill, Akers,McNichols, Dillon, Cohen, McCoy
K Allen, Hopkins,McLaurin, AROB M Williams,MVS
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Teddy B, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Burkhead, Mostert, wilson jr
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans,AROB, C Davis, Watkins, Edleman, Higgins
Ertz, Gronk, Fant, everett, albert o
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Baker, Wentz, Foles, K Allen
Kamara, Henry, Chubb, Bell, Murray, Coleman
M Thomas, K Allen, M Evans, JuJu, Cooper, Watkins
Hurst, Gronk, Ebron, Everett
Payne/Onyemata
Campbell, Ogbah, J Allen, Clowney, Armstead
Martinez, J Smith, Z Smith, Jack, Judon, C Jones (IR)
Alexander, Dean, Ward
Edmonds, Harris, Joseph, Delpit (IR)
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
J Allen , Herbert, Rivers
Kamara, B Hill, Akers,McNichols, Dillon, Cohen, McCoy
K Allen, Hopkins,McLaurin, AROB M Williams,MVS
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Teddy B, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Burkhead, Mostert, wilson jr
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans,AROB, C Davis, Watkins, Edleman, Higgins
Ertz, Gronk, Fant, everett, albert o
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Baker, Wentz, Foles, K Allen
Kamara, Henry, Chubb, Bell, Murray, Coleman
M Thomas, K Allen, M Evans, JuJu, Cooper, Watkins
Hurst, Gronk, Ebron, Everett
Payne/Onyemata
Campbell, Ogbah, J Allen, Clowney, Armstead
Martinez, J Smith, Z Smith, Jack, Judon, C Jones (IR)
Alexander, Dean, Ward
Edmonds, Harris, Joseph, Delpit (IR)
Re: Sick of Being in a Rebuild
It's only been a year...be patient.
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