The owner of Fant is looking to accumulate 2020 draft picks and he offered the above trade. It is a one TE league and I own Henry and Goedert. My initial thoughts on the trade are 'no' but maybe I am wrong. Any thoughts on Fant being the next Kelce or Kittle?
Based on the rosters - the 2020 1st rounder is likely late and the 2020 2nd rounder is likely a mid pick.
Fant vs 2020 1st
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Fant vs 2020 1st
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.
2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.
2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.
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Re: Fant vs 2020 1st
I have Fant so take my advice with a grain of salt. Evaluating TE's is tough but they do have a low bust rate for 1st rounders. I think Fant is a very reasonable piece to move from a 1st to a 2nd. It takes 2-3 years anyway before a TE is productive so I kind of like how you use up a year of the time by paying with a 2020 instead of a 2019. And getting the 2nd thrown in as well makes it worthwhile.
ACTUALLY, nevermind. I just saw it was a 10 team league. I might just pass afterall. I'd hate if you ended up with the 1.06-1.07 in 2020. I was thinking you would be more along the lines of 1.10-1.12.
ACTUALLY, nevermind. I just saw it was a 10 team league. I might just pass afterall. I'd hate if you ended up with the 1.06-1.07 in 2020. I was thinking you would be more along the lines of 1.10-1.12.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
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Re: Fant vs 2020 1st
I would hold Fant but I'm very high on him. I think he has really high potential and his value could grow in value quickly.
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Re: Fant vs 2020 1st
I was thinking of countering with a 2021 1st. I am too high on the 2020 draft class and I do have adequate TE depth in a 1 TE league with Henry and Goedert.
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.
2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.
2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.
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Re: Fant vs 2020 1st
With your build I would keep the 2020 first. You already have Henry and Goedert. You don't need a 3rd TE to develop, especially when it isn't TE premium.
Re: Fant vs 2020 1st
I’d hold your pick
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 5IDP
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11
16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11
16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson
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Re: Fant vs 2020 1st
Fant straight up for the 2020 1st should do it. It's not necessary to add the 2nd rounder. I'd personally keep Fant, but since you already have 2 future stud TEs you don't really need 3. Or trade your least favorite out of the 3. Or trade Fant for whatever position you might be seeking. Just some food for thought.
*2016 3rd* *2017 CHAMP* 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 K, 3 IDP, 1 Team DEF
QB - L Jackson, B Mayfield
RB - M Sanders, CE-Helaire, J Jacobs, M Brown, D Dallas, S Barkley, J Jackson, L McCoy
WR - M Thomas, A Brown, DJ Chark, B Edwards, M Pittman, D Johnson, P Williams, D Samuel
TE - T Higbee, D Goedert, M Gesicki, J Akins
K - J Tucker
IDP - J Collins, E Kendricks, L David
Def - Denver, Minnesota
2021 - 2 1sts
12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 K, 3 IDP *2015 Champ* *3rd 2016* *2017 Champ*
QB - C Newton, J Winston, Tannehill
RB - T Gurley, M Sanders, J Conner, J McKinnon, M Brown, K Ballage, A Jones, S Michel, J Samuels, D Harris, R Penny
WR - O Beckham, D Hopkins, A Hurns, J Gordon, M Boykin, J Jeudy, D Johnson, H Ruggs, M Valdes-Scantling, P Williams
TE - N Fant, C Herndon, T, Hockenson
IDP - D Campbell, LJ Fort, J Collins, C Jones, E Wilson
QB - L Jackson, B Mayfield
RB - M Sanders, CE-Helaire, J Jacobs, M Brown, D Dallas, S Barkley, J Jackson, L McCoy
WR - M Thomas, A Brown, DJ Chark, B Edwards, M Pittman, D Johnson, P Williams, D Samuel
TE - T Higbee, D Goedert, M Gesicki, J Akins
K - J Tucker
IDP - J Collins, E Kendricks, L David
Def - Denver, Minnesota
2021 - 2 1sts
12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 K, 3 IDP *2015 Champ* *3rd 2016* *2017 Champ*
QB - C Newton, J Winston, Tannehill
RB - T Gurley, M Sanders, J Conner, J McKinnon, M Brown, K Ballage, A Jones, S Michel, J Samuels, D Harris, R Penny
WR - O Beckham, D Hopkins, A Hurns, J Gordon, M Boykin, J Jeudy, D Johnson, H Ruggs, M Valdes-Scantling, P Williams
TE - N Fant, C Herndon, T, Hockenson
IDP - D Campbell, LJ Fort, J Collins, C Jones, E Wilson
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Re: Fant vs 2020 1st
I would keep the 1st. I don't think Fant puts up the numbers people think he will. He also wouldn't be a 1st rounder in a stacked 2020 class
Team 1
12 team PPR 1QB, 2RB,3WR,1TE, flex
QB Lawrence, Garoppollo
RB Barkley, Jacobs, Mack, Ingram,T Coleman, Gallman,E Benjamin
WR Jefferson, Mclaurin, Godwin, E Moore, Reagor, Campbell, Hardman
TE Kittle, Tonyan
Team 2
10 team Half PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE
QB J Allen, Tua, Mayfield
RB JT, Zeke, CEH, Sanders, Javontae Williams, Drake, Penny
WR AJ Brown, Chase, DJ Moore, Ridley, Mclaurin, Amon Ra St Brown, M Williams, Davis, Campbell
TE Hockenson, Engram
Team 3
10 team Non PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1Flex, 1TE, 1 K, 1Def
QB Wilson, Lance, Z Wilson, Cousins
RB Jones, Akers, Sanders, Coleman, Pollard
WR M Thomas, AJ Brown, Golladay, DJ Moore, OBJ, Jeudy, Mims, Davis
TE Kittle, Gesicki,
K Koo, Sanders
DEF Colts
12 team PPR 1QB, 2RB,3WR,1TE, flex
QB Lawrence, Garoppollo
RB Barkley, Jacobs, Mack, Ingram,T Coleman, Gallman,E Benjamin
WR Jefferson, Mclaurin, Godwin, E Moore, Reagor, Campbell, Hardman
TE Kittle, Tonyan
Team 2
10 team Half PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE
QB J Allen, Tua, Mayfield
RB JT, Zeke, CEH, Sanders, Javontae Williams, Drake, Penny
WR AJ Brown, Chase, DJ Moore, Ridley, Mclaurin, Amon Ra St Brown, M Williams, Davis, Campbell
TE Hockenson, Engram
Team 3
10 team Non PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1Flex, 1TE, 1 K, 1Def
QB Wilson, Lance, Z Wilson, Cousins
RB Jones, Akers, Sanders, Coleman, Pollard
WR M Thomas, AJ Brown, Golladay, DJ Moore, OBJ, Jeudy, Mims, Davis
TE Kittle, Gesicki,
K Koo, Sanders
DEF Colts
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Re: Fant vs 2020 1st
Assuming your 2020 first is late (6-10) and assuming the 2020 second is mid (4-7) i would definitely move down 4 to 11 spots to pick up fant, who should be worth a first on his own in a year or two. With TE being such a hard position to feel "all set" about, you will likely be able sell one of yours for at least a first at some point. Either way i like the value personally.
12Team .5ppr/1PPR TEs 1Q/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FL/SF
QB- Hurts, Howell, O'Connell, Lance, Trubisky, Mariota
RB- Bijan, Breece, Javonte, Warren, Spears, Dillon, Herbert
WR- Puka, St.B, Olave, DSmith, Pickens, Addison, Wicks, EMoore, Mooney, Claypool, Gallup, Kirk, Bateman, JMeyers, Gage
TE- LaPorta, Pitts, Everett
12Tm .5PPR SF (1pprTE) 22/23 Champs
Start12
QB-Burrow, Hurts, Stroud, Howell
RB-Walker, Kamara, Warren, KMitchell, Pierce, Dillon, CEH
WR-Jefferson, AJB, Pittman, DSmith, Cooper, JMeyers, Dotson, Shaheed, Palmer, Dortch
TE-Friermuth, Thomas
12T 6PPTD SF PPR (1.5TE) *start12
Q- Hurts, Dak, TLaw, Huntley
R- Walker, Ekeler, AJones, KMitchell, Allgeier, Herbert
W- Puka, St.B, GWilson, Jeudy, Diontae, MikeWill, Douglas, Dotson, Mims, Thielan, Woods
T- LaPorta, Engram, Everett, Bellinger
*2.1, 2.2, 2.5, 4.1
QB- Hurts, Howell, O'Connell, Lance, Trubisky, Mariota
RB- Bijan, Breece, Javonte, Warren, Spears, Dillon, Herbert
WR- Puka, St.B, Olave, DSmith, Pickens, Addison, Wicks, EMoore, Mooney, Claypool, Gallup, Kirk, Bateman, JMeyers, Gage
TE- LaPorta, Pitts, Everett
12Tm .5PPR SF (1pprTE) 22/23 Champs
Start12
QB-Burrow, Hurts, Stroud, Howell
RB-Walker, Kamara, Warren, KMitchell, Pierce, Dillon, CEH
WR-Jefferson, AJB, Pittman, DSmith, Cooper, JMeyers, Dotson, Shaheed, Palmer, Dortch
TE-Friermuth, Thomas
12T 6PPTD SF PPR (1.5TE) *start12
Q- Hurts, Dak, TLaw, Huntley
R- Walker, Ekeler, AJones, KMitchell, Allgeier, Herbert
W- Puka, St.B, GWilson, Jeudy, Diontae, MikeWill, Douglas, Dotson, Mims, Thielan, Woods
T- LaPorta, Engram, Everett, Bellinger
*2.1, 2.2, 2.5, 4.1
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