Startup Tyreek?
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GMCLionsfan
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Startup Tyreek?
Where would you be comfortable taking Hill in a new Startup as of today?
Team 1: 10TM Year 9 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, ppr.
QB: JAllen, Wentz, Baker, Winston
RB: CMC, Zeke, Barkley, Mixon, Akers, Pollard, Singletary, Rhomndre, Ollison.
WR: Adams, Evans, Keenan, Arob, EMoore, Hardman, Edwards, Marquez C, Nico, Dez Fitz.
TE: Kittle, Andrews, LoganThomas, Ertz, Everett, Albert O, Granson, Grey.
Picks. 1,1,2,3,4,5.
Team#2: 12 TM SF. 1Qb, 2RB, 3WR. 1TE, 1FX, 1SF.
FULL REBUILD
QB: Wentz, Baker, ZWilson, Ehlinger, Mariota, Book.
RB: Mckissic, Ollison, Cohen, Ty Johnson, Dev and Royce Freeman, JJTaylor, Hill, XJones, Funk, Huntley, Rose, Sargent.
WR: Juju, DMoore, EMoore, Hollywood, Ruggs, Reagor, Gage, Marquez Callaway, Mims, Palmer, Washington, Scotty, Tyron Johnson.
TE: Troutman, Alie-Cox, Herndon, Conklin, Granson, Long, Mckitty, Bates.
Picks:
2022- 1,1,2,2,2,2,4,5.
2023- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,4,5.
QB: JAllen, Wentz, Baker, Winston
RB: CMC, Zeke, Barkley, Mixon, Akers, Pollard, Singletary, Rhomndre, Ollison.
WR: Adams, Evans, Keenan, Arob, EMoore, Hardman, Edwards, Marquez C, Nico, Dez Fitz.
TE: Kittle, Andrews, LoganThomas, Ertz, Everett, Albert O, Granson, Grey.
Picks. 1,1,2,3,4,5.
Team#2: 12 TM SF. 1Qb, 2RB, 3WR. 1TE, 1FX, 1SF.
FULL REBUILD
QB: Wentz, Baker, ZWilson, Ehlinger, Mariota, Book.
RB: Mckissic, Ollison, Cohen, Ty Johnson, Dev and Royce Freeman, JJTaylor, Hill, XJones, Funk, Huntley, Rose, Sargent.
WR: Juju, DMoore, EMoore, Hollywood, Ruggs, Reagor, Gage, Marquez Callaway, Mims, Palmer, Washington, Scotty, Tyron Johnson.
TE: Troutman, Alie-Cox, Herndon, Conklin, Granson, Long, Mckitty, Bates.
Picks:
2022- 1,1,2,2,2,2,4,5.
2023- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,4,5.
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Gator Sens
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Re: Startup Tyreek?
Top 15-20 for me. I'm guessing he is a late 1st to mid 2nd in a standard 12 team startup.
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Re: Startup Tyreek?
Still a pretty wide range of of appeal it looks like. Thanks everyone.
Team 1: 10TM Year 9 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, ppr.
QB: JAllen, Wentz, Baker, Winston
RB: CMC, Zeke, Barkley, Mixon, Akers, Pollard, Singletary, Rhomndre, Ollison.
WR: Adams, Evans, Keenan, Arob, EMoore, Hardman, Edwards, Marquez C, Nico, Dez Fitz.
TE: Kittle, Andrews, LoganThomas, Ertz, Everett, Albert O, Granson, Grey.
Picks. 1,1,2,3,4,5.
Team#2: 12 TM SF. 1Qb, 2RB, 3WR. 1TE, 1FX, 1SF.
FULL REBUILD
QB: Wentz, Baker, ZWilson, Ehlinger, Mariota, Book.
RB: Mckissic, Ollison, Cohen, Ty Johnson, Dev and Royce Freeman, JJTaylor, Hill, XJones, Funk, Huntley, Rose, Sargent.
WR: Juju, DMoore, EMoore, Hollywood, Ruggs, Reagor, Gage, Marquez Callaway, Mims, Palmer, Washington, Scotty, Tyron Johnson.
TE: Troutman, Alie-Cox, Herndon, Conklin, Granson, Long, Mckitty, Bates.
Picks:
2022- 1,1,2,2,2,2,4,5.
2023- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,4,5.
QB: JAllen, Wentz, Baker, Winston
RB: CMC, Zeke, Barkley, Mixon, Akers, Pollard, Singletary, Rhomndre, Ollison.
WR: Adams, Evans, Keenan, Arob, EMoore, Hardman, Edwards, Marquez C, Nico, Dez Fitz.
TE: Kittle, Andrews, LoganThomas, Ertz, Everett, Albert O, Granson, Grey.
Picks. 1,1,2,3,4,5.
Team#2: 12 TM SF. 1Qb, 2RB, 3WR. 1TE, 1FX, 1SF.
FULL REBUILD
QB: Wentz, Baker, ZWilson, Ehlinger, Mariota, Book.
RB: Mckissic, Ollison, Cohen, Ty Johnson, Dev and Royce Freeman, JJTaylor, Hill, XJones, Funk, Huntley, Rose, Sargent.
WR: Juju, DMoore, EMoore, Hollywood, Ruggs, Reagor, Gage, Marquez Callaway, Mims, Palmer, Washington, Scotty, Tyron Johnson.
TE: Troutman, Alie-Cox, Herndon, Conklin, Granson, Long, Mckitty, Bates.
Picks:
2022- 1,1,2,2,2,2,4,5.
2023- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,4,5.
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Re: Startup Tyreek?
It's actually not that wide of a range. Easily top 20 and many believe top 15, and some top 10. Really don't think it was much different that that before the situation....maybe some of the "20" picks were more top 15. Really late first to early second is where his owners felt he was anyways, so after all that it basically means he almost viewed back to normal only 1 day after the news. He's a first round pick in start, early to mid second at worst and that would likely taper off to early second at worst by the start of the season. Pretty easy analysis.
10 team .2 PPR, .2 return yards. 28 player rosters, 16 offensive keepers on cutdown day.
QB- Rodgers, Lamar J, Josh allen
RB- Sony Michel, Kerryon J, Royce Freeman, Kalen Ballage, CJ Anderson, Justin Jackson, Damien Harris, Alex Mattison, Qadree Ollison,
WR- Davante Adams, Tyreek H, Josh Gordon, Alshon Jeffrey, Curtis Samuel, K Stills, John Brown, Demaryius Thomas
TE- Eric Ebron, Chris Herndon, Dallas Goedert, Matt Lacosse, Will Dissly, Darren Waller
K-greg the leg
QB- Rodgers, Lamar J, Josh allen
RB- Sony Michel, Kerryon J, Royce Freeman, Kalen Ballage, CJ Anderson, Justin Jackson, Damien Harris, Alex Mattison, Qadree Ollison,
WR- Davante Adams, Tyreek H, Josh Gordon, Alshon Jeffrey, Curtis Samuel, K Stills, John Brown, Demaryius Thomas
TE- Eric Ebron, Chris Herndon, Dallas Goedert, Matt Lacosse, Will Dissly, Darren Waller
K-greg the leg
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Re: Startup Tyreek?
Top 10/15 for me.
12 Team - PPR - 30man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE
QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton
2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 3x 1st
Champ: 2020, 2021
Year 9 of my league
QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton
2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 3x 1st
Champ: 2020, 2021
Year 9 of my league
Re: Startup Tyreek?
Adams, OBJ, Nuk, MT, Juju, Julio and Evans do not have a case hanging over their collective heads, I would take any one of them before Hill.
Maybe even KA, so that puts him in 15-20 range in startup. Be interesting to see how Hardman develops.
Maybe even KA, so that puts him in 15-20 range in startup. Be interesting to see how Hardman develops.
Rollin with Mahomes
10 team, standard dynasty league, roster 22, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K First Year 2018 runner up
QB- Mahomes, Winston
RB- Drake, Carson, Thompson, Chubb, R Jones, Darrel Williams, Penny, Samuels
WR- Julio, Mike Williams, JUJU, Golladay, DJ Moore, McLaurin, D Johnson
TE- OJ, Hooper
IR- Butler, Guice
TS- D Henderson, J Hill
2020- 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
10 team, standard dynasty league, roster 22, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K First Year 2018 runner up
QB- Mahomes, Winston
RB- Drake, Carson, Thompson, Chubb, R Jones, Darrel Williams, Penny, Samuels
WR- Julio, Mike Williams, JUJU, Golladay, DJ Moore, McLaurin, D Johnson
TE- OJ, Hooper
IR- Butler, Guice
TS- D Henderson, J Hill
2020- 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
Re: Startup Tyreek?
Id put him as WR5.... behind nuk, obj, MT, juju. Id probably draft him 10 to 15ish as a value if he dropped.
Too many teams and lineup changes to keep track of them all.
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Re: Startup Tyreek?
This is exactly how it played to me in my current start up, plus Adams at 1.8, I was OTC at 1.11 when the news broke and I took Hill there as the above mentioned were off the board.
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Re: Startup Tyreek?
Ha... not sure how I forgot Adams... but id still take hill over Evans.
Too many teams and lineup changes to keep track of them all.
Re: Startup Tyreek?
Not in dynasty, IMO, Hill has issues and he was lame toward the end of last year, redraft, top 5, dynasty, not so much.
Rollin with Mahomes
10 team, standard dynasty league, roster 22, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K First Year 2018 runner up
QB- Mahomes, Winston
RB- Drake, Carson, Thompson, Chubb, R Jones, Darrel Williams, Penny, Samuels
WR- Julio, Mike Williams, JUJU, Golladay, DJ Moore, McLaurin, D Johnson
TE- OJ, Hooper
IR- Butler, Guice
TS- D Henderson, J Hill
2020- 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
10 team, standard dynasty league, roster 22, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K First Year 2018 runner up
QB- Mahomes, Winston
RB- Drake, Carson, Thompson, Chubb, R Jones, Darrel Williams, Penny, Samuels
WR- Julio, Mike Williams, JUJU, Golladay, DJ Moore, McLaurin, D Johnson
TE- OJ, Hooper
IR- Butler, Guice
TS- D Henderson, J Hill
2020- 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
Re: Startup Tyreek?
I voted top 20. Easily top 10 from a talent standpoint but the risk is there.
Re: Startup Tyreek?
Hill probably has the widest range of top 50 assets to date. To me I just don't draft him, not because of moral hesitancies, but I've seen with Zeke how much of a pain in the bleep it is to have a star who's name keeps getting in the news for the wrong reasons.
On top of it, his value is tied to Mahomes and Reid. While it's more likely the Chiefs WILL pay him, this is the final year of his deal, and there is also Chris Jones as a potential tag target. His value depends too much on the Chiefs for my taste, and if the Chiefs decide they don't want this headache at a 20 million dollar price tag, his value drops significantly again.
Give me the guy slightly below him in Evans, Julio, KA13, Diggs, whoever unless he falls to like 25+. The points aren't THAT drastically different to avoid all the ways Hill could go wrong. I don't blame anyone who takes him top 10-15, he's talented for sure, just not worth it for me.
On top of it, his value is tied to Mahomes and Reid. While it's more likely the Chiefs WILL pay him, this is the final year of his deal, and there is also Chris Jones as a potential tag target. His value depends too much on the Chiefs for my taste, and if the Chiefs decide they don't want this headache at a 20 million dollar price tag, his value drops significantly again.
Give me the guy slightly below him in Evans, Julio, KA13, Diggs, whoever unless he falls to like 25+. The points aren't THAT drastically different to avoid all the ways Hill could go wrong. I don't blame anyone who takes him top 10-15, he's talented for sure, just not worth it for me.
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