Grade this trade for me

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Grade this trade for me

Postby Indyfan1985 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:47 am

Its a 2 QB PPR League.

I dealt QB Jimmy G, RB Duke Johnson, and my 2020 3rd

I received back the 2019 4th overall pick, his 2020 2nd, and QB Teddy Bridgewater. (I honestly could see Teddy B. being the starting QB for the Saints within the next year or 2)

My team is set at my 2 starting QB positions with both Mahomes and Luck, and honestly at the 4th overall pick, Kyler Murray may be there for me. If not I still do have Josh Rosen/Ryan Fitzpatrick on my bench.

I also have an early 2nd round pick, and a late 2nd round pick to possibly address another QB if I absolutely had to.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Carson Wentz
WR - Michael Thomas, Mike Evans
RB - Saquon Barkley, Joe Mixon
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Odell Beckham Jr, Cooper Kupp

Notable Bench Players - Jonathan Taylor, James Conner, Zach Moss, Darrell Henderson, Calvin Ridley, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Teddy Bridgewater, Justin Herbert, Darren Waller

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz
WR - Chris Godwin, DJ Moore
RB - CMC, Joe Mixon
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - Calvin Ridley, DJ Chark, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Jonathan Taylor, Antonio Gibson, Kerryon Johnson, Nyheim Hines, Courtland Sutton, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, Michael Pittman Jr, Parris Campbell, Bryan Edwards, Philip Rivers, Derek Carr, Eric Ebron, Irv Smith Jr

2021 Draft picks - 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:08 am

If you dont believe in Jimbo, it's not a bad deal, but I think you should have got more for him in a 2 QB league.

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby Indyfan1985 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:22 am

Gator Sens wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:08 am
If you dont believe in Jimbo, it's not a bad deal, but I think you should have got more for him in a 2 QB league.
That's the thing I'm not completely sold on him. Part of it has to do with longevity and health. Plus I already have 2 other 49er players in Kittle and Coleman. And if Murray were to fall in my lap at 4th overall, and if he were to make an instant impact, he would be a major trade asset or great 3rd QB behind Mahomes and Luck.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Carson Wentz
WR - Michael Thomas, Mike Evans
RB - Saquon Barkley, Joe Mixon
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Odell Beckham Jr, Cooper Kupp

Notable Bench Players - Jonathan Taylor, James Conner, Zach Moss, Darrell Henderson, Calvin Ridley, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Teddy Bridgewater, Justin Herbert, Darren Waller

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz
WR - Chris Godwin, DJ Moore
RB - CMC, Joe Mixon
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - Calvin Ridley, DJ Chark, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Jonathan Taylor, Antonio Gibson, Kerryon Johnson, Nyheim Hines, Courtland Sutton, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, Michael Pittman Jr, Parris Campbell, Bryan Edwards, Philip Rivers, Derek Carr, Eric Ebron, Irv Smith Jr

2021 Draft picks - 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby FantasyFoosball » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:28 am

This is clearly an F.

It's a 2QB league and you traded a starting QB for a backup one, a second round pick next year, and a fourth round pick....

And there should be a zero percent chance of Kyler Murray making it to the 1.04 in a 2QB league. He's the consensus 1.01 in that format.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 5-1, 1st Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Drake, Carson, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Snell, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Armstead, Lawson
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Milano, Alexander, Hewitt, Jewell
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Kyle Fuller, Desir

2021 - 1st, 1st, 2nd
2022 - None

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 5-1, 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Justin Jackson, McCoy, Lewis, Dallas, Snell Jr, Royce Freeman
WR - MT, Reagor, Perriman, Jackson, Beasley, Reynolds, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1st, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby killer_of_giants » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:32 am

Indyfan1985 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:22 am
And if Murray were to fall in my lap at 4th overall, and if he were to make an instant impact,
and if my auntie had bollocks...

even if you are not sold on garoppolo, someone in your league might well be, so i think you sold short.
having other niners doesn't make much of a difference.

i think garoppolo will be better than murray, but even if that was not the case, i doubt really much murray slips to 4th in a 2QB league, especially with not much else at QB apart from him.

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby Indyfan1985 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:36 am

FantasyFoosball wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:28 am
This is clearly an F.

It's a 2QB league and you traded a starting QB for a backup one, a second round pick next year, and a fourth round pick....

And there should be a zero percent chance of Kyler Murray making it to the 1.04 in a 2QB league. He's the consensus 1.01 in that format.
I value your opinion, but I'm looking at the long term here. I do not need Jimmy G at all this season, and come next season I will have at least 1 more additional young starting QB on my bench to replace him, who will more than likely have more upside. The QB class is much better next year, and I have my 2020 1st, an early 2nd, my 2nd, my 3rd and 4th to work with.

Plus if I took someone like Haskins or Jones in the 2nd round this year, that player could be starting by next year also. Again I'm not sold on Jimmy G. If I were, I probably would have asked for more. The trade value chart graded it as an even trade.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Carson Wentz
WR - Michael Thomas, Mike Evans
RB - Saquon Barkley, Joe Mixon
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Odell Beckham Jr, Cooper Kupp

Notable Bench Players - Jonathan Taylor, James Conner, Zach Moss, Darrell Henderson, Calvin Ridley, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Teddy Bridgewater, Justin Herbert, Darren Waller

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz
WR - Chris Godwin, DJ Moore
RB - CMC, Joe Mixon
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - Calvin Ridley, DJ Chark, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Jonathan Taylor, Antonio Gibson, Kerryon Johnson, Nyheim Hines, Courtland Sutton, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, Michael Pittman Jr, Parris Campbell, Bryan Edwards, Philip Rivers, Derek Carr, Eric Ebron, Irv Smith Jr

2021 Draft picks - 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby FantasyFoosball » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:37 am

Indyfan1985 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:36 am
FantasyFoosball wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:28 am
This is clearly an F.

It's a 2QB league and you traded a starting QB for a backup one, a second round pick next year, and a fourth round pick....

And there should be a zero percent chance of Kyler Murray making it to the 1.04 in a 2QB league. He's the consensus 1.01 in that format.
I value your opinion, but I'm looking at the long term here. I do not need Jimmy G at all this season, and come next season I will have at least 1 more additional young starting QB on my bench to replace him, who will more than likely have more upside. The QB class is much better next year, and I have my 2020 1st, an early 2nd, my 2nd, my 3rd and 4th to work with.

Plus if I took someone like Haskins or Jones in the 2nd round this year, that player could be starting by next year also. Again I'm not sold on Jimmy G. If I were, I probably would have asked for more. The trade value chart graded it as an even trade.
Lol. Okay.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 5-1, 1st Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Drake, Carson, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Snell, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Armstead, Lawson
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Milano, Alexander, Hewitt, Jewell
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Kyle Fuller, Desir

2021 - 1st, 1st, 2nd
2022 - None

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 5-1, 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Justin Jackson, McCoy, Lewis, Dallas, Snell Jr, Royce Freeman
WR - MT, Reagor, Perriman, Jackson, Beasley, Reynolds, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1st, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby Indyfan1985 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:38 am

killer_of_giants wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:32 am
Indyfan1985 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:22 am
And if Murray were to fall in my lap at 4th overall, and if he were to make an instant impact,
and if my auntie had bollocks...

even if you are not sold on garoppolo, someone in your league might well be, so i think you sold short.
having other niners doesn't make much of a difference.

i think garoppolo will be better than murray, but even if that was not the case, i doubt really much murray slips to 4th in a 2QB league, especially with not much else at QB apart from him.
The teams picking at 2nd and 3rd overall have no need at QB, and the person picking 1st has a HUGE need at WR.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Carson Wentz
WR - Michael Thomas, Mike Evans
RB - Saquon Barkley, Joe Mixon
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Odell Beckham Jr, Cooper Kupp

Notable Bench Players - Jonathan Taylor, James Conner, Zach Moss, Darrell Henderson, Calvin Ridley, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Teddy Bridgewater, Justin Herbert, Darren Waller

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz
WR - Chris Godwin, DJ Moore
RB - CMC, Joe Mixon
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - Calvin Ridley, DJ Chark, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Jonathan Taylor, Antonio Gibson, Kerryon Johnson, Nyheim Hines, Courtland Sutton, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, Michael Pittman Jr, Parris Campbell, Bryan Edwards, Philip Rivers, Derek Carr, Eric Ebron, Irv Smith Jr

2021 Draft picks - 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby killer_of_giants » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:44 am

Indyfan1985 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:38 am
The teams picking at 2nd and 3rd overall have no need at QB, and the person picking 1st has a HUGE need at WR.
well you're all set then...

i mean, you said yourself you have no need at QB and that next year class is better... and still want to pick murray. so why can't 2nd and 3rd overall guys think the same? why can't the first overall trade out of 1.01 for an established WR from a team with need at QB? why do you assume people will draft based on need and not on value?

that said, it's your league, you may have noticed patterns on the way they operate and fair enough if that's the case. but you ask for grades to people who don't know your league.

regardless of whether murray will be there or not, i still think garoppolo/niners is better than murray/cardinals.
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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:44 am

Gator Sens wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:08 am
If you dont believe in Jimbo, it's not a bad deal, but I think you should have got more for him in a 2 QB league.
x2 not really a fan of this trade, as I think Garoppolo and the SF offense blow up this year, but it's not terrible value

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Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:38 am
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:32 am
i doubt really much murray slips to 4th in a 2QB league, especially with not much else at QB apart from him.
The teams picking at 2nd and 3rd overall have no need at QB, and the person picking 1st has a HUGE need at WR.
Shouldn't matter. Murray is the 1.01 by far in 2QB formats due to ceiling and positional scarcity. If Murray falls to 1.04 in your 2QB draft, consider yourself blessed.
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby Indyfan1985 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:54 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:44 am
Gator Sens wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:08 am
If you dont believe in Jimbo, it's not a bad deal, but I think you should have got more for him in a 2 QB league.
x2 not really a fan of this trade, as I think Garoppolo and the SF offense blow up this year, but it's not terrible value

Indyfan1985 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:38 am
killer_of_giants wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:32 am
i doubt really much murray slips to 4th in a 2QB league, especially with not much else at QB apart from him.
The teams picking at 2nd and 3rd overall have no need at QB, and the person picking 1st has a HUGE need at WR.
Shouldn't matter. Murray is the 1.01 by far in 2QB formats due to ceiling and positional scarcity. If Murray falls to 1.04 in your 2QB draft, consider yourself blessed.
Thanks for your take. Do you at least see where I'm coming from with the whole 2020 QB draft class and having many picks to address that position for another starting QB for my bench then? And I have my doubts that Jimmy G blows up this year since he hasn't really done much to this point.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Carson Wentz
WR - Michael Thomas, Mike Evans
RB - Saquon Barkley, Joe Mixon
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Odell Beckham Jr, Cooper Kupp

Notable Bench Players - Jonathan Taylor, James Conner, Zach Moss, Darrell Henderson, Calvin Ridley, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Teddy Bridgewater, Justin Herbert, Darren Waller

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz
WR - Chris Godwin, DJ Moore
RB - CMC, Joe Mixon
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - Calvin Ridley, DJ Chark, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Jonathan Taylor, Antonio Gibson, Kerryon Johnson, Nyheim Hines, Courtland Sutton, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, Michael Pittman Jr, Parris Campbell, Bryan Edwards, Philip Rivers, Derek Carr, Eric Ebron, Irv Smith Jr

2021 Draft picks - 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby GridironGuerilla » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:59 am

Regardless of your assessment of your team or your strategy, you should have absolutely gotten significantly more value for Garopplolo in a 2QB.
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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:06 am

I hate this deal. I feel like this is an example of using your opinion on a player and projecting it to someone else's opinion giving them a cheap buy.

You aren't buying Jimmy G, who cares what you think about him. The guy buying him has the only opinion that matters. I think you sold low for a backup QB and a dart throw. I could honestly see Duke getting traded and having value that will truly make this deal get crushed.
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O. Beckham, Antonio Brown, M. Evans, A. Robinson, S. Diggs, C. Sutton, T. Boyd, Jakobi Meyers, S. Sims Jr., Darius Slayton

S. Barkley, Da. Cook, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, R. Penny, Ronald Jones, W. Gallman, Duke Johnson, AJ Dillon, Darrynton Evans, DeeJay Dallas, L. Perine

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Re: Grade this trade for me

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Re: Grade this trade for me

Postby thomasscheeks » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:14 am

You sold short man, sorry.

I understand you didn't need him, but that doesn't mean you toss him out like a bag of trash. I would have wanted at least 1.01 for him.
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RB: Jacobs, Mixon, Drake, Edmonds, Robinson, Hyde
WR: Thomas, Julio, Juju, Parker, Sanders, Edwards, Lazard, Cole, G Davis, Renfrow, Brown (IR)
TE: Kittle, Fant, Njoku (IR), Smith
DT: Cox, Oliver, Simmons
DL: Bosa, Allen, JPP, Houston
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey, Shaq
DB: Collins, Vaccaro, Clark, J Reid, Rapp

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RB: CEH, Taylor, Thompson
WR: Nuk, Juju, Jefferson, Di Johnson, Shepard, P Williams, Lazard, Mooney
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