Evans++ for Allen++ (POLL)

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Which side?

Evans, Ertz, Henry, Pettis
13
59%
K. Allen, A. Jones, R. Woods, Njoku, 2020 1st
9
41%
 
Total votes: 22

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Evans++ for Allen++ (POLL)

Postby fraction » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:36 pm

This is the follow-up from these trade discussions: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=186718

Team 2 in Sig:

Give: Evans, Ertz, Henry, Pettis

Get: K. Allen, A. Jones, R. Woods, Njoku, 2020 1st

Does it even make sense?
Team 1: 0.5 PPR, TE Premium (1 PPR), QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex

QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Henry, Dobbins, Fournette, J. White, Richard
WR: M. Thomas, AJ Brown, McLaurin, Juju, Sutton, G. Davis, Mooney, Edwards
TE: Higbee, Tonyan, Njoku, Moreau

Team 2: 0.5 PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3 Flex, 1SF

QB: Wilson, Prescott, Mayfield, FitzMagic
RB: Chubb, Jones, Robinson, Mostert, Carson, Ballage, Samuels
WR: Allen, ARob, DJ Moore, Sutton, OBJ, AB, Pascal
TE: Higbee, Hurst, Njoku

Team 3: PPR, TE Premium (1.5 PPR), QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3 Flex, 1SF

QB: Prescott, J. Allen, Ryan,
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mostert, Penny, Pollard, Boone
WR: Godwin, Kirk, Hollywood, Slayton, G.Davis,
TE: Henry, Tonyan, Kmet, Allie-Cox, Parham, Bryant x2

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Re: Evans++ for Allen++ (POLL)

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:07 pm

I would hold what you have but the 1st makes this pretty close.

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Re: Evans++ for Allen++ (POLL)

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:40 pm

Evans + Pettis = Allen + Woods
Ertz = Njoku + 2020 1st
Jones > Henry by a bit

It's close, but I'd accept that trade.
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Evans++ for Allen++ (POLL)

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:38 am

I think the overall pieces make the value close-ish but it seems to me you downgrade from Evans to Keenan (small downgrade, but evans is also 2 full years younger), Huge downgrade from Ertz to Njoku, Henry and Jones are close to a lateral, and you slightly upgrade from pettis to woods (who i personally think largely benefited last year from Kupp being out) all to gain a 2020 1st.

It seems like if you are competing you are downgrading your starting lineup to pick up a 2020 1st
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: Evans++ for Allen++ (POLL)

Postby killer_of_giants » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:02 am

pokerplayer1000 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:38 amyou slightly upgrade from pettis to woods (who i personally think largely benefited last year from Kupp being out)
and you think that based on what?
on the fact that woods' three 100+ yards games all came when kupp was playing perhaps?


on the trade, not so sure, i like your side more but i think it is fair. i think the "quality" of that first would influence my decision.

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Re: Evans++ for Allen++ (POLL)

Postby Goddard » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:14 am

Too many pieces being moved on both sides. What are you trying to accomplish with this trade? Can you simplify it a little and get what you really want?

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Re: Evans++ for Allen++ (POLL)

Postby thomasscheeks » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:17 am

You're giving up the best WR and the best TE. This is not a good trade even though you're getting some nice pieces back
10 Man IDP, .75 ppr, Big Play Bonus, TE Prem, 2 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 34 Keepers (17 off - 17 IDP)
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins


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