Singletary for Ian Thomas?

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Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby Nflnz » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:40 pm

The Bills RBs are a hot mess and I own them all apart from Devin Singletary!

Should I look to trade Ian Thomas for Singletary so atleast I have the full set of RBs and see who pans out? I’d likely need to seed a 2nd or 3rd round pick also. Keen for your feedback..

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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:50 pm

Nflnz wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:40 pm The Bills RBs are a hot mess
Exactly. I'd rather have Thomas.
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:53 pm

I would hold Thomas here too

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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby Goddard » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:13 pm

I don't mind moving Singletary for Thomas, but I wouldn't add anything to him.

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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby DynastyDabbler » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:10 pm

I don't think Thomas is the answer at TE for the Panthers I'd rather take a shot on Singletary
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby TimeWillTell » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:29 pm

DynastyDabbler wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:10 pm I don't think Thomas is the answer at TE for the Panthers I'd rather take a shot on Singletary
Just curious if you would elaborate why? I own Thomas but it's mainly me grabbing any viable TE right now hoping one hits. It's a numbers game. But still interested to know your thoughts.
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby smallxl » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:02 pm

TimeWillTell wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:29 pm
DynastyDabbler wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:10 pm I don't think Thomas is the answer at TE for the Panthers I'd rather take a shot on Singletary
Just curious if you would elaborate why? I own Thomas but it's mainly me grabbing any viable TE right now hoping one hits. It's a numbers game. But still interested to know your thoughts.
Let me help. Thomas is Definitely the answer at TE
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby GridironGuerilla » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:12 pm

Singletary for me here. A few factors make it so, the most significant being format.

You're looking at a 12 team must start 1 TE format, I am assuming based on your signature. Behind Barkley you drop off significantly to Penny at this point until we see him perform as a viable fantasy RB with Carson in that backfield this season. After that there are even more question marks. You have a serviceable and possible top 5 TE's in Cook, and some nice upside youth in Herndon and Andrews.You MUST start 2 RB and CAN start 3.

You mention the Bills backfield being a mess and it is no doubt. That's all the more reason for me to take a shot on a guy who might carve out a viable role behind two 30 plus veterans and become a flex/bye week fill in who has late 2nd round dynasty draft capital. Owning the rest of that backfield makes it an even easier decision. I like Thomas, but he is no guarantee and is currently only a backup in the league. I would give up late 2nd round value for him in this format. I would take the draft capital, upside, and advantage of hitting on another RB over the possibility that Thomas becomes fantasy relevant at some time this year or next.

I would definitely look to make that move, but would avoid sending a 2nd as well. I would consider the 3rd, but would certainly try to get it done straight up.
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby TimeWillTell » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:31 pm

GridironGuerilla wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:12 pm Singletary for me here. A few factors make it so, the most significant being format.

You're looking at a 12 team must start 1 TE format, I am assuming based on your signature. Behind Barkley you drop off significantly to Penny at this point until we see him perform as a viable fantasy RB with Carson in that backfield this season. After that there are even more question marks. You have a serviceable and possible top 5 TE's in Cook, and some nice upside youth in Herndon and Andrews.You MUST start 2 RB and CAN start 3.

You mention the Bills backfield being a mess and it is no doubt. That's all the more reason for me to take a shot on a guy who might carve out a viable role behind two 30 plus veterans and become a flex/bye week fill in who has late 2nd round dynasty draft capital. Owning the rest of that backfield makes it an even easier decision. I like Thomas, but he is no guarantee and is currently only a backup in the league. I would give up late 2nd round value for him in this format. I would take the draft capital, upside, and advantage of hitting on another RB over the possibility that Thomas becomes fantasy relevant at some time this year or next.

I would definitely look to make that move, but would avoid sending a 2nd as well. I would consider the 3rd, but would certainly try to get it done straight up.
So just a FYI I was not the OP but it seems like you're talking about my team. I'm holding Both Thomas and Singletary regardless as I'm in rebuild (hence the 6 2020 1sts). I was just interested in that gentleman's thoughts on why he doesn't like Thomas as he's one of the few I've seen with that opinion and I'm genuinely curious why.

That said, I appreciate your insight into my team! I pretty much agree.
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby GridironGuerilla » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:37 pm

TimeWillTell wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:31 pm
GridironGuerilla wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:12 pm Singletary for me here. A few factors make it so, the most significant being format.

You're looking at a 12 team must start 1 TE format, I am assuming based on your signature. Behind Barkley you drop off significantly to Penny at this point until we see him perform as a viable fantasy RB with Carson in that backfield this season. After that there are even more question marks. You have a serviceable and possible top 5 TE's in Cook, and some nice upside youth in Herndon and Andrews.You MUST start 2 RB and CAN start 3.

You mention the Bills backfield being a mess and it is no doubt. That's all the more reason for me to take a shot on a guy who might carve out a viable role behind two 30 plus veterans and become a flex/bye week fill in who has late 2nd round dynasty draft capital. Owning the rest of that backfield makes it an even easier decision. I like Thomas, but he is no guarantee and is currently only a backup in the league. I would give up late 2nd round value for him in this format. I would take the draft capital, upside, and advantage of hitting on another RB over the possibility that Thomas becomes fantasy relevant at some time this year or next.

I would definitely look to make that move, but would avoid sending a 2nd as well. I would consider the 3rd, but would certainly try to get it done straight up.
So just a FYI I was not the OP but it seems like you're talking about my team. I'm holding Both Thomas and Singletary regardless as I'm in rebuild (hence the 6 2020 1sts). I was just interested in that gentleman's thoughts on why he doesn't like Thomas as he's one of the few I've seen with that opinion and I'm genuinely curious why.

That said, I appreciate your insight into my team! I pretty much agree.

Haha! No I didn't! I'm just gonna back out of the room here slowly...

No but seriously, all of this can apply to the OP's roster as well seeing as he has even MORE depth at TE, LESS at RB, and is participating in the same 12 team 1 TE 2-3 RB format.

Now, that being said, I'm gonna just back out of the room here slowly....
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby Nflnz » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:03 pm

GridironGuerilla wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:37 pm
TimeWillTell wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:31 pm
GridironGuerilla wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:12 pm Singletary for me here. A few factors make it so, the most significant being format.

You're looking at a 12 team must start 1 TE format, I am assuming based on your signature. Behind Barkley you drop off significantly to Penny at this point until we see him perform as a viable fantasy RB with Carson in that backfield this season. After that there are even more question marks. You have a serviceable and possible top 5 TE's in Cook, and some nice upside youth in Herndon and Andrews.You MUST start 2 RB and CAN start 3.

You mention the Bills backfield being a mess and it is no doubt. That's all the more reason for me to take a shot on a guy who might carve out a viable role behind two 30 plus veterans and become a flex/bye week fill in who has late 2nd round dynasty draft capital. Owning the rest of that backfield makes it an even easier decision. I like Thomas, but he is no guarantee and is currently only a backup in the league. I would give up late 2nd round value for him in this format. I would take the draft capital, upside, and advantage of hitting on another RB over the possibility that Thomas becomes fantasy relevant at some time this year or next.

I would definitely look to make that move, but would avoid sending a 2nd as well. I would consider the 3rd, but would certainly try to get it done straight up.
So just a FYI I was not the OP but it seems like you're talking about my team. I'm holding Both Thomas and Singletary regardless as I'm in rebuild (hence the 6 2020 1sts). I was just interested in that gentleman's thoughts on why he doesn't like Thomas as he's one of the few I've seen with that opinion and I'm genuinely curious why.

That said, I appreciate your insight into my team! I pretty much agree.

Haha! No I didn't! I'm just gonna back out of the room here slowly...

No but seriously, all of this can apply to the OP's roster as well seeing as he has even MORE depth at TE, LESS at RB, and is participating in the same 12 team 1 TE 2-3 RB format.

Now, that being said, I'm gonna just back out of the room here slowly....
As the OP, thanks heaps for the advice!
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby DynastyDabbler » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:07 am

TimeWillTell wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:29 pm
DynastyDabbler wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:10 pm I don't think Thomas is the answer at TE for the Panthers I'd rather take a shot on Singletary
Just curious if you would elaborate why? I own Thomas but it's mainly me grabbing any viable TE right now hoping one hits. It's a numbers game. But still interested to know your thoughts.
Honestly, I can't statistically back up my statement. I'm saying that based off a gut feeling. I owned him briefly and was disappointed he didn't shine more when given the opportunity. But I'm probably not giving him enough credit given his situation. Raw talent coming into the NFL, he had very little college production but he had a great combine. If he is the answer for Carolina then this is his year to prove it. Personally, I don't think he will be an every week starter. But he could be a good fill in on your bye week? I'm no expert so take my input lightly.
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby Bigsexy85 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:24 pm

I live on Long Island and I watched Ian Thomas play college ball at Nassau Community College. This dude was a STUD! I know a community college doesn't usually translate to good NFL production but I had a feeling back then that you'd hear his name eventually and he's finally getting his opportunity. He's a strong hold IMO
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby mrmagloo » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:23 pm

DynastyDabbler wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:07 am
TimeWillTell wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:29 pm
DynastyDabbler wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:10 pm I don't think Thomas is the answer at TE for the Panthers I'd rather take a shot on Singletary
Just curious if you would elaborate why? I own Thomas but it's mainly me grabbing any viable TE right now hoping one hits. It's a numbers game. But still interested to know your thoughts.
Honestly, I can't statistically back up my statement. I'm saying that based off a gut feeling. I owned him briefly and was disappointed he didn't shine more when given the opportunity. But I'm probably not giving him enough credit given his situation. Raw talent coming into the NFL, he had very little college production but he had a great combine. If he is the answer for Carolina then this is his year to prove it. Personally, I don't think he will be an every week starter. But he could be a good fill in on your bye week? I'm no expert so take my input lightly.
I like Thomas, Riverboat Ron and Cam target the TE. Olsen is on the way out, act accordingly. When Olsen was a Bear, I used to call him one step Greg. He caught the ball, took a step and a hit and went down. Gut feel says Thomas will be a good TE, not great.
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Re: Singletary for Ian Thomas?

Postby FiremanEd » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:43 pm

Holding Thomas. Singletary will never be a high end option IMO. Thomas can be for TE. I have a talent gap between them and the Buffalo backfield doesn’t scream ‘great investment’ to me. Gore and McCoy are old, but still talented guys who have had strong careers. I’m not sold Singletary is better than either, or better than Yeldon, nor do I feel confident in him being the future of that backfield.


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