Diggs vs Cooper

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Diggs vs Cooper

Postby OSFFL » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:36 am

Amari Cooper + 2021 1st or Stefon Diggs + Tyler Lockett? Which side is better, or are they even?
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:38 am

I would take the Diggs side. I think Diggs could make another jump this year and has shown to be a special talent.
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:44 am

I would take Diggs and Lockett in a vacuum. I think Cooper is overrated and prefer Diggs to him. I'd take Lockett over a 2021 1st too, but I'm not a fan of moving picks that far out.
If this was offered to you, I would assume the guy is trying to get Cooper and values him over Diggs. I'd try to replace the 1st with something else. Maybe Funchess, Parker, or a 2020 2nd (assuming team in sig).
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby killer_of_giants » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:48 am

diggs/lockett, unless there are cowboys fans in your league who think cooper is the next coming of michael irvin.

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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby CGW » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:07 am

I'd take Diggs and lockett. Not high on Amari, although I think he is much better in Dallas.
Diggs >= Cooper
Lockett > random 2021 1st
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:19 am

CGW wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:07 am
I'd take Diggs and lockett. Not high on Amari, although I think he is much better in Dallas.
Diggs >= Cooper
Lockett > random 2021 1st
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby Goddard » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:27 am

Diggs/Lockett for me as well without knowing where the 1st will end up. I think it's somewhat fair in value though.

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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby sjcourtney56 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:32 am

Diggs side for me as well
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby FuzzySignificance » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:59 am

seems pretty fair, tbh. diggs soft tissue injuries might swing me slightly towards cooper in a head to head but lockett is better than a distant 1st
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby jcc6fd » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:03 pm

killer_of_giants wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:48 am
diggs/lockett, unless there are cowboys fans in your league who think cooper is the next coming of michael irvin.
This is good advice.
CGW wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:07 am
I'd take Diggs and lockett. Not high on Amari, although I think he is much better in Dallas.
Diggs >= Cooper
Lockett > random 2021 1st
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:45 pm

cooper side easily for me i dont wanna pay a first for tyler lockett i dont care how many years out it is. diggs vs cooper is a toss up but vikings resigning thielen for big money and resigning rudolph after adding irv makes me think diggs doesnt have the same target hog potential that cooper does.

lockett had a pretty good season in 2018 and that will be the highlight of his career imo.
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:26 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:45 pm
cooper side easily for me i dont wanna pay a first for tyler lockett i dont care how many years out it is. diggs vs cooper is a toss up but vikings resigning thielen for big money and resigning rudolph after adding irv makes me think diggs doesnt have the same target hog potential that cooper does.

lockett had a pretty good season in 2018 and that will be the highlight of his career imo.
This for me too. Don’t get me wrong, I like Diggs but he has had a similar career to Cooper, maybe slightly better, I’m not sure how people could value Diggs easily over Cooper, that’s definitely debatable.

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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby Phaded » Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:39 pm

Diggs over Cooper easily for me.

I'm not a Lockett fan - but I suppose he might be more valuable than a 1st two years out.
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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:04 pm

I like both guys and own both in several leagues but it’s a head scratcher how so many can say Diggs “easily” over Cooper? Their stats are very close, actually Coopers are slightly ahead and they are both 25, Cooper just turned 25. What gives?

Diggs stats through 4 seasons
2015-52-720 4 TDS.
2016-84-903 3TDs.
2017-64-849 8TDs.
2018-102-1021 9TDs.



Coopers stats through 4 seasons
2015- 72-1,070 6TDs
2016- 82-1149 5TDs
2017- 48-680 7TDs
2018- 75-1004 7TDs

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Re: Diggs vs Cooper

Postby Phaded » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:10 pm

Season stats never tell the whole story - I have beaten to death the Cooper thing; but without going all crazy into depth about it, his week to week floor is terrifyingly low and can cost you games at a rate that was unmatched by basically any of the other perceived top WRs.

Last year he had a whopping eight games with less than 40 yards.
For comparison, Diggs had four.
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