Should I make this deal for Zeke?

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Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby joeday » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:24 am

12 team, PPR league.

My team:
QB - Carson Wentz, Sam Darnold
RB - Saquon Barkley, Alvin Kamara, Le'Veon Bell, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Latavius Murray, Benny Snell Jr.
WR - Julio Jones, Keenan Allen, Amari Cooper, Robert Woods, Chris Godwin, Adam Humphries, Hakeem Butler
TE - Zach Ertz, George Kittle, Ian Thomas
2020 Picks - 1

His team:
QB - Drew Brees, Dak Prescott, Matthew Stafford, Lamar Jackson
RB - Ezekiel Elliott, Austin Ekeler, Duke Johnson, Justin Jackson, Ty Montgomery, Tony Pollard, Rod Smith
WR - DeAndre Hopkins, Tyler Lockett, DJ Moore, Julian Edelman, Geronimo Allison, Mecole Hardman, Diontae Johnson, Tim Patrick
TE - Travis Kelce, Will Dissly, CJ Uzomah
2020 Picks - 1, 2, 3, 4

He told me he wants Conner, Bell, Samuels (I assume Snell as well) for Zeke plus "anyone on (his) bench and or any of (his) picks next season"

So what should I have him add to go with Zeke?
BERLIN BOMBERS 9 – 4
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – CHAMPION
1999 | 2000 – RUNNER - UP

14 Team | 4 Keeper | NON PPR | 24th Season
QB – Drew Brees | Jameis Winston
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Reggie Bonnafon | Mike Davis | Bo Scarbrough
RB – Marlon Mack | Jordan Wilkins | Jonathan Williams | Darwin Thompson
WR – Keenan Allen | Robert Woods | DJ Moore | Tyrell Williams | Sterling Shepard
TE – George Kittle | Ross Dwelley
D/ST – Steelers | Chiefs K – Austin Seibert

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS 11 – 2
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 – CHAMPION
2008 | 2012 | 2014 – RUNNER - UP

12 Team | 10 Keeper | NON PPR | 19th Season
QB – Deshaun Watson | Drew Brees
RB – Ezekiel Elliott | Aaron Jones | Derrick Henry | Tony Pollard | Jamaal Williams | Carlos Hyde | Raheem Mostert
WR – DeAndre Hopkins | Odell Beckham | Davante Adams | Christian Kirk | Tyrell Williams
TE – Darren Waller | Jacob Hollister | Tyler Higbee
D/ST – Ravens | Steelers K – Matt Gay

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby repkllrs » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:29 am

His 1st and 2nd. He has no bench players that I would be interested in.
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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:35 am

repkllrs wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:29 am
His 1st and 2nd. He has no bench players that I would be interested in.
100% make that deal if this is an option
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby ChefHerbie » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:37 am

Zeke and a '20 first, and then hit accept as fast as possible
Team 1 - 10 Team PPR - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX

QBs: Wentz, Big Ben, Darnold, Murray, Bridgewater
RBs: Chubb, Mack, L. Miller, Monty, Foreman, Henderson, Ballage, Armstead, R. Anderson
WRs: OBJ, K. Allen, Cooks, ARob, Z. Jones, Chark, K. White, D. Robinson, McLaurin
TE: Howard, Njoku, Reed

Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4

Team 2 - 10 Team PPR SF - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1SF

QBs: Mayfield, Watson, Jimmy GQ, Grier
RBs: Barkley, Sony, Lewis, D. Thompson, Love
WRs: Thomas, OBJ, AB, Kupp, ARob, C. Ridley, Alshon, MVS, Chark, Gordon, McLaurin, Quinn
TE: Burton, Walker

Picks:
2020: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3
2021: 1, 3
2022: 1-3

Team 3 - 10 Team PPR - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX

QBs: Watson, Wilson, Mayfield, Murray, Grier
RBs: Ballage, Henderson, Hunt, Hill, Armstead, Anderson, Williams, Thompson, Crockett
WRs: Nuk, Evans, Cooper, Cooks, Samuel, Butler, Chark, Quinn, Robinson, D. Johnson, Morgan Jr.
TEs: Fant, Dissly, Goedert

Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby abloom » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:53 am

2020 1st easily
Team #1 (9-4) rank: 2/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Scarbrough, Peterson, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,4,4,5,5,7
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Team #2 (9-4) rank: 3/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, AP, J Hill, B Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (10-3) rank 1/10 (In Semifinals)
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, Parker
TE: Henry, Hooper
K: Lutz
DST: BAL

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby Bubba90 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:01 pm

Given your teams RB core, I’d probably not trade both Conner/Bell and the rest of Steelers backfield for essentially Zeke. I know a 2020 1st is tempting, but there’s nothing on his bench worth taking.

I’d rather have depth, then see how season unfolds before trading away solid options. Plus, Zeke is meeting with commish and would wait for outcome.

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby abloom » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:06 pm

Bubba90 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:01 pm
Given your teams RB core, I’d probably not trade both Conner/Bell and the rest of Steelers backfield for essentially Zeke. I know a 2020 1st is tempting, but there’s nothing on his bench worth taking.

I’d rather have depth, then see how season unfolds before trading away solid options. Plus, Zeke is meeting with commish and would wait for outcome.
Lindsay and Murray could fill in if needed. Assuming that that 3rd RB spot is actually a flex, he has options at WR too.
Team #1 (9-4) rank: 2/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Scarbrough, Peterson, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,4,4,5,5,7
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Team #2 (9-4) rank: 3/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, AP, J Hill, B Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (10-3) rank 1/10 (In Semifinals)
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, Parker
TE: Henry, Hooper
K: Lutz
DST: BAL

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby Bubba90 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:11 pm

abloom wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:06 pm
Bubba90 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:01 pm
Given your teams RB core, I’d probably not trade both Conner/Bell and the rest of Steelers backfield for essentially Zeke. I know a 2020 1st is tempting, but there’s nothing on his bench worth taking.

I’d rather have depth, then see how season unfolds before trading away solid options. Plus, Zeke is meeting with commish and would wait for outcome.
Lindsay and Murray could fill in if needed. Assuming that that 3rd RB spot is actually a flex, he has options at WR too.
That’s true, and I’m not devaluing Zeke. I’d just want more coming back the just Zeke and a 2020 1st, or someone other then a bench player that has better value. Samuels still has value as well.

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby abloom » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:16 pm

Bubba90 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:11 pm
abloom wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:06 pm
Bubba90 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:01 pm
Given your teams RB core, I’d probably not trade both Conner/Bell and the rest of Steelers backfield for essentially Zeke. I know a 2020 1st is tempting, but there’s nothing on his bench worth taking.

I’d rather have depth, then see how season unfolds before trading away solid options. Plus, Zeke is meeting with commish and would wait for outcome.
Lindsay and Murray could fill in if needed. Assuming that that 3rd RB spot is actually a flex, he has options at WR too.
That’s true, and I’m not devaluing Zeke. I’d just want more coming back the just Zeke and a 2020 1st, or someone other then a bench player that has better value. Samuels still has value as well.
I guess it depends on how you evaluate Conner and Bell. Yes you probably could get a little more. But I think there are enough questions for both Conner and Bell that it worth the trade for Zeke, but maybe I'm lower on Conner and Bell than most.
Team #1 (9-4) rank: 2/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Scarbrough, Peterson, Armstead, Bonnafon, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,4,4,5,5,7
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Team #2 (9-4) rank: 3/12 (in Finals)
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, S Michel, D. Freeman, Breida, AP, J Hill, B Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (10-3) rank 1/10 (In Semifinals)
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, Parker
TE: Henry, Hooper
K: Lutz
DST: BAL

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby joeday » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:18 pm

I tried to get him to swap Kelce for Ertz or Kittle in a deal but that was a non-starter.
BERLIN BOMBERS 9 – 4
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – CHAMPION
1999 | 2000 – RUNNER - UP

14 Team | 4 Keeper | NON PPR | 24th Season
QB – Drew Brees | Jameis Winston
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Reggie Bonnafon | Mike Davis | Bo Scarbrough
RB – Marlon Mack | Jordan Wilkins | Jonathan Williams | Darwin Thompson
WR – Keenan Allen | Robert Woods | DJ Moore | Tyrell Williams | Sterling Shepard
TE – George Kittle | Ross Dwelley
D/ST – Steelers | Chiefs K – Austin Seibert

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2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 – CHAMPION
2008 | 2012 | 2014 – RUNNER - UP

12 Team | 10 Keeper | NON PPR | 19th Season
QB – Deshaun Watson | Drew Brees
RB – Ezekiel Elliott | Aaron Jones | Derrick Henry | Tony Pollard | Jamaal Williams | Carlos Hyde | Raheem Mostert
WR – DeAndre Hopkins | Odell Beckham | Davante Adams | Christian Kirk | Tyrell Williams
TE – Darren Waller | Jacob Hollister | Tyler Higbee
D/ST – Ravens | Steelers K – Matt Gay

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby Bubba90 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:44 pm

abloom wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:16 pm
Bubba90 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:11 pm
abloom wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:06 pm


Lindsay and Murray could fill in if needed. Assuming that that 3rd RB spot is actually a flex, he has options at WR too.
That’s true, and I’m not devaluing Zeke. I’d just want more coming back the just Zeke and a 2020 1st, or someone other then a bench player that has better value. Samuels still has value as well.
I guess it depends on how you evaluate Conner and Bell. Yes you probably could get a little more. But I think there are enough questions for both Conner and Bell that it worth the trade for Zeke, but maybe I'm lower on Conner and Bell than most.
It’s hard to value Bell, given his scenario but still has the ability to be a top 10 RB. Conner is the same, was last year a fluke? Who’s knows, but I think he still can produce solid numbers as well.

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby FuzzySignificance » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:49 pm

as others have said, take the 2020 1st and run with it.
12 team ppr, 1 qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 te, 2 flex
QB: Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, Le'Veon Bell, Kerryon Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ronald Jones, Darwin Thompson
WR: Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen, Antonio Brown, Will Fuller, DeDe Westbrook, Robby Anderson, Marquise Goodwin, Justin Watson, Albert Wilson, Greg Dortch
TE: Travis Kelce, Vance McDonald, Kyle Rudolph, Delanie Walker, Ian Thomas, Gerald Everett

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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby L’stone » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:03 pm

Ask for 2020 1, 2020 2 and Tony Pollard. His comment seems to indicate he isn’t much bothered about his future picks or bench players. Maybe even be cheeky and ask for Mecole Hardman or Diontae Johnson as well.

Be happy to accept just the 2020 1 if need be.

Possibly wait until after Zeke meets with Goodell if you want to remove some risk.
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RB: Saquon Barkley, Todd Gurley
WR: Julio Jones, Adam Thielen, Amari Cooper
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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby joeday » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:17 am

So I think the deal on the table would be:

Give - Le'Veon Bell, James Conner, Jaylen Samuels, Benny Snell
Get - Dak Prescott (or Matthew Stafford), Ezekiel Elliott, Tony Pollard, 2020 1 (probably late), 2020 2 (probably late)

Any legit worry about Zeke and the league?
BERLIN BOMBERS 9 – 4
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – CHAMPION
1999 | 2000 – RUNNER - UP

14 Team | 4 Keeper | NON PPR | 24th Season
QB – Drew Brees | Jameis Winston
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Reggie Bonnafon | Mike Davis | Bo Scarbrough
RB – Marlon Mack | Jordan Wilkins | Jonathan Williams | Darwin Thompson
WR – Keenan Allen | Robert Woods | DJ Moore | Tyrell Williams | Sterling Shepard
TE – George Kittle | Ross Dwelley
D/ST – Steelers | Chiefs K – Austin Seibert

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS 11 – 2
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 – CHAMPION
2008 | 2012 | 2014 – RUNNER - UP

12 Team | 10 Keeper | NON PPR | 19th Season
QB – Deshaun Watson | Drew Brees
RB – Ezekiel Elliott | Aaron Jones | Derrick Henry | Tony Pollard | Jamaal Williams | Carlos Hyde | Raheem Mostert
WR – DeAndre Hopkins | Odell Beckham | Davante Adams | Christian Kirk | Tyrell Williams
TE – Darren Waller | Jacob Hollister | Tyler Higbee
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Re: Should I make this deal for Zeke?

Postby DoggieOG » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:20 am

joeday wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:18 pm
I tried to get him to swap Kelce for Ertz or Kittle in a deal but that was a non-starter.
I was thinking a similar thing.. either he includes is first (Zeke/1st would do it) or swaps Zeke/Kelce/2nd for Bell/Conner/Snell/Ertz


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