Am I Totally Mis-Valuing Players or Are These Offers Really Bad?

[ThatGuyBrian]

I have been trying to upgrade my Tight End position and potentially getting an early first for Juju. Here are some of the offers that I have been getting for Juju. Are my values totally off or are these really bad trade offers?

Trade 1. Dallas Goedert and Calvin Ridley for JuJu Smith-Schuster and 2019 Pick 32 overall
Trade 2. 2019 5th overall, 2020 2nd round pick (probably late) Jaguars for Giants and JuJu Smith-Schuster
Trade 3. Calvin Ridley and O.J. Howard for Sammy Watkins and JuJu Smith-
Trade 4. Calvin Ridley and O.J. Howard for Sammy Watkins and JuJu Smith-Schuster

One of my counter offers was:
Oj Howard and 2019 5th overall pick for Juju Smith-Shuster

And just for full disclosure tight ends get a little bit of bonus (.15 per yard instead of .10 like receivers and running backs)

[lanemitchell96]

Terrible offers

[ThatGuyBrian]

Terrible offers

Was my counter offer to him bad? I felt like I would be giving up more value in Juju for Howard and the 5th overall

[killer_of_giants]

Terrible offers

Was my counter offer to him bad? I felt like I would be giving up more value in Juju for Howard and the 5th overall

that was horrible too (for you)

[Bubba90]

In my opinion all those offers are stinkers. Your counter isn’t favoring you as well for giving up JuJu. No way I’d want 1.5 and Howard for JuJu. I think he’s worth much more.

[Bubba90]

If you wanna upgrade your TE position look at other alternatives. I’d look at cheaper options like McDonald, Hooper types that’ll give you reasonable production. As a Bucs fan, Howard’s been injured in consecutive seasons and Arians doesn’t have a track record of productive TEs.

[Gator Sens]

Pass on all these deals. Start fresh or move on in my opinion.

[ThatGuyBrian]

In my opinion all those offers are stinkers. Your counter isn’t favoring you as well for giving up JuJu. No way I’d want 1.5 and Howard for JuJu. I think he’s worth much more.

That offer was rejected anyway. He said he uses Pro Football Focus to determine values and sent an example (Michel valued at 55 for Moore valued at 49)

[smbkrypt24]

Offers are not good. Your counter was still bad.

[jwb32]

All are atrocious

[BeeziBad]

yes. terrible. and don't settle. even you counter is short by a 1st and some change.

[ThatGuyBrian]

Offers are not good. Your counter was still bad.

Well that is the purpose of this thread. I didn't if I was over valuing my guys then under valuing them because trades were getting rejected. Good to know that my initial thoughts were correct.

[repkllrs]

At least 3 of those awful offers are from thesame team. Find a new trade partner.

[Leeboy86]

At least 3 of those awful offers are from thesame team. Find a new trade partner.

^^^
And maybe post the offer that you're considering before making it as I didn't like your JuJu counter.

[Bubba90]

In my opinion all those offers are stinkers. Your counter isn’t favoring you as well for giving up JuJu. No way I’d want 1.5 and Howard for JuJu. I think he’s worth much more.

That offer was rejected anyway. He said he uses Pro Football Focus to determine values and sent an example (Michel valued at 55 for Moore valued at 49)

Be happy it was rejected!!!!