David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

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David Johnson for Mack +++

DJ
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64%
Mack +++
5
36%
 
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David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:01 am

Just curious the thoughts on this Trade I made for Team 2 in my sig.

I gave up Marlon Mack, AJ brown, Devante Parker and Drew Lock

I received David Johnson

This essentially changes one of my flex spots from Mack to DJ and I can start

Goff/Luck
Zeke/CMC/DJ (in place of Mack)
OBJ/Keenan/Thielen/Cooper
Ebron
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Cook/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey

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Re: David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:22 am

i like the mack side especially in a 2qb. i dont think mack and dj will score very far apart this year. DJ has a very bad o line and the other weapons on the team are unproven outside of larry. mack has a fnatastic o line and andrew luck passing and ty hilton, paris campbell and eric ebron in the mix. think this will be a regretted deal.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


team 3
http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0008

team 4
https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0010

team 5
http://www57.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =0008&O=07

team 6
http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0004

team 7
https://www51.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0011

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Re: David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:36 am

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:22 am
i like the mack side especially in a 2qb. i dont think mack and dj will score very far apart this year. DJ has a very bad o line and the other weapons on the team are unproven outside of larry. mack has a fnatastic o line and andrew luck passing and ty hilton, paris campbell and eric ebron in the mix. think this will be a regretted deal.
Mack isn't a bellcow, and while I do like him, he is a 1/2nd down RB.

Also, one could argue that because there are no proven assets in the Arizona that they feed DJ, and that because of all the options in Indy that hurts Mack.

I personally dont expect 2016 DJ, but I also cant expect that team to be worse than it was in Arizona.
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Cook/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey

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Re: David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

Postby Iamwebb223 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:45 am

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:22 am
i like the mack side especially in a 2qb. i dont think mack and dj will score very far apart this year. DJ has a very bad o line and the other weapons on the team are unproven outside of larry. mack has a fnatastic o line and andrew luck passing and ty hilton, paris campbell and eric ebron in the mix. think this will be a regretted deal.
I agree with this assessment.
Team 1 - 12 Team 20 man ros. TD Heavy - Big Play Bonuses, 3 pts. Every 25 yds. Rush/Rec.
QB - Dak, D. Jones
RB - L. Fournette
WR - OBJ, A. Cooper, DK Metcalf, M. Williams(LAC)
TE -

Team 2 - 10 Team 22 man rosters/PPR BIG PLAY TD BONUSES, 1 pt. 10 yds. Rush/Rec.
QB - D. Jones, J. Garoppolo
RB - A. Kamara, M. Gordon, L. Bell, B. Snell Jr.
WR - OBJ, M. Evans, AJ Green, DK Metcalf, Deebo
TE - G. Kittle

Team 3 - 12 Team 22 man rosters PPR/BIG PLAY BONUS TD’s, RB & TE Premium
QB - D. Watson
RB - E. Elliott, L. Fournette, D. Henry, Yeldon
WR - K. Allen, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, Edelman
TE - D. Waller

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Re: David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:53 am

Seems like a good deal. Lock is interesting and probably worth an early 2nd in a 10-team 2QB format, but I'm not sure he'll be fantasy relevant for at least a year, if ever. Basically Mack + two 2nds for Johnson, and while it might be a bit of an overpay, you had the depth to make this move.
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Re: David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:56 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:53 am
Seems like a good deal. Lock is interesting and probably worth an early 2nd in a 10-team 2QB format, but I'm not sure he'll be fantasy relevant for at least a year, if ever. Basically Mack + two 2nds for Johnson, and while it might be a bit of an overpay, you had the depth to make this move.
AJ brown was drafted at 1.09 and Lock at 2.06 for reference.
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Cook/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey

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Re: David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:58 am

pokerplayer1000 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:56 am
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:53 am
Seems like a good deal. Lock is interesting and probably worth an early 2nd in a 10-team 2QB format, but I'm not sure he'll be fantasy relevant for at least a year, if ever. Basically Mack + two 2nds for Johnson, and while it might be a bit of an overpay, you had the depth to make this move.
AJ brown was drafted at 1.09 and Lock at 2.06 for reference.
Right, was just saying that in my valuation, I'm higher on Lock and lower on Brown than where they were selected. I'd rate both as early 2nds, and I think Johnson = Mack + one early 2nd, so it was a bit of an overpay value-wise.
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Re: David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:59 am

Seems like you gave up a bit too much here but if Johnson returns to his two years ago form, he will help you make a run at the title.
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Re: David Johnson for Mack +++ Trade completed

Postby murphysxm » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:11 am

I think in 10 team leagues you have to have studs to win. DJ has been one and has the highest odds of returning to that level among the people in this trade. Give me DJ


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