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Landry vs ...

Postby bigbuck22 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:55 pm

How would you rate these 5 WRs in terms of value and what is the difference between each?

Landry
CRidley
M Williams
Kirk
J Washington

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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:57 pm

Williams/Landry - mid to early 1st
Ridley- mid 1st
Kirk- very late 1st/early 2nd
Washington- mid 2nd
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Postby Cowboysfan33 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:12 pm

Williams/Ridley- mid to early 1st
Landry- mid 1st
Kirk- late 1st
Washington- mid to early 2nd

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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:32 am

Mid 1st:
Ridley
Williams
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Late 1st
Kirk
Landry
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Mid 2nd
Washington
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Postby AZCardsFan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:43 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:32 am
Mid 1st:
Ridley
Williams
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Late 1st
Kirk
Landry
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Mid 2nd
Washington
^This, But i’d probably drop Williams into the next tier, right there below Kirk.
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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:46 am

AZCardsFan wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:43 am
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:32 am
Mid 1st:
Ridley
Williams
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Late 1st
Kirk
Landry
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Mid 2nd
Washington
^This, But i’d probably drop Williams into the next tier, right there below Kirk.
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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby bigbuck22 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:50 am

I'd like to hear why everyone is so down Landry. I happen to think he'll see plenty of targets, particularly underneath and without the double have room to get up field.

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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:06 am

bigbuck22 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:50 am
I'd like to hear why everyone is so down Landry. I happen to think he'll see plenty of targets, particularly underneath and without the double have room to get up field.
I think the problem with Landry is we know what he is. Most people dont realize he was the WR20ish last year, which means more often then not he is a starter in every league, whether it is at WR or at Flex.

People still see the upside in Mike Williams, Ridley and Kirk. People will pay more for perceived upside.

Also, James Washington isn't and won't be good :)
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QB: Watson/Lamar/Haskins/Fitz/Siemian
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Guice/DexWilliams/JWilliams/Mostert
WR: Davis/Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Campbell/Isabella/Agholar/Harmon/Boykin/Renfrow
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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:24 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:32 am
Mid 1st:
Ridley
Williams
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Late 1st
Kirk
Landry
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Mid 2nd
Washington
Good list, although I'd say high 2nd for Washington. I wouldn't trade him for pick 16 or later.
bigbuck22 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:50 am
I'd like to hear why everyone is so down Landry. I happen to think he'll see plenty of targets, particularly underneath and without the double have room to get up field.
He's a good NFL WR, but doesn't have the skillset to be a big fantasy producer without huge targets like he got in Miami. And I don't see huge targets for him with OBJ there.
Plus he's just kinda boring, and I play fantasy to have fun and watch players that excite me.
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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:38 am

bigbuck22 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:50 am
I'd like to hear why everyone is so down Landry. I happen to think he'll see plenty of targets, particularly underneath and without the double have room to get up field.
He'll get enough targets to be a decent WR3/flex with WR2 potential, but he's not going to see the crazy volume he did in MIA that made him a WR1. I don't value a WR3 with WR2 potential to be worth more than a late 1st.
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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby cvbuc » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:54 am

pokerplayer1000 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:06 am
bigbuck22 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:50 am
I'd like to hear why everyone is so down Landry. I happen to think he'll see plenty of targets, particularly underneath and without the double have room to get up field.
I think the problem with Landry is we know what he is. Most people dont realize he was the WR20ish last year, which means more often then not he is a starter in every league, whether it is at WR or at Flex.

People still see the upside in Mike Williams, Ridley and Kirk. People will pay more for perceived upside.

Also, James Washington isn't and won't be good :)
Agreed to an extent.
People are now basing their opinions on Landry on his worst career season - which was last season. Which I think is very shortsighted.
He went to a new offense with a rookie QB and had a head coaching change and a starting QB change in-season. Those are rarely recipes for success.

He was a top 10-15 PPR WR asset for years and is still on the young end of his prime and now has an upper echelon receiver to draw double coverage and safety help on every play. He's primed to be a top 15-20 receiver for the next several years with upside pending the ceiling Mayfield reaches - which can absolutely not be guaranteed by any of the other receivers on your list.

If I owned Landry - I would advise holding for now. You simply won't get proper value in most cases.
If anything, this is a great opportunity to buy a guy at WR3 prices who has an upside for much more with a very safe floor.

He's an ideal WR3/Flex target for championship contenders.
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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby bigbuck22 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:04 am

[/quote]
Agreed to an extent.
People are now basing their opinions on Landry on his worst career season - which was last season. Which I think is very shortsighted.
He went to a new offense with a rookie QB and had a head coaching change and a starting QB change in-season. Those are rarely recipes for success.

He was a top 10-15 PPR WR asset for years and is still on the young end of his prime and now has an upper echelon receiver to draw double coverage and safety help on every play. He's primed to be a top 15-20 receiver for the next several years with upside pending the ceiling Mayfield reaches - which can absolutely not be guaranteed by any of the other receivers on your list.

If I owned Landry - I would advise holding for now. You simply won't get proper value in most cases.
If anything, this is a great opportunity to buy a guy at WR3 prices who has an upside for much more with a very safe floor.

He's an ideal WR3/Flex target for championship contenders.
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This is also how I feel. I believe he should be very similar value to Ridley and Williams, definitely ahead of Kirk by a decent margin. If Landry is valued as a late 1st, he's a buy in every scenario.

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Re: Landry vs ...

Postby repkllrs » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:29 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:32 am
Mid 1st:
Ridley
Williams
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Late 1st
Kirk
Landry
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Mid 2nd
Washington
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